Is Corona racist?

I heard that the twins turned out to have other health issues?

But the main thing is that they had no ethical qualms about doing it.
And now that Genetics are advancing so fast, and with the ancestryDNA database and the GWAS catalog so easily available, the world will soon be at the fingertips of any mad scientist.

The Ancestry DNA data base is available to law enforcement, as are all of the others as well.
 
Not exactly. It's more of a back door. As I understand it, some but not all customers for ancestry post up there results in order to communicate and connect with other family members. It's optional.
 
Yes, but I'm fairly positive that ancestryDNA is being regularly hacked into to help with genetic treatment research. If Garry McKinnon hacked into NASA, how hard is it for governments to do that?

And I can foresee a time, 10 years from now, when China will start utilising all of these for more nefarious purposes (ie population control through sterilizing undesirables and so on).


I have a question:
I keep reading that even more ethical countries such as Canada have bioweapons research facilities, is this true or fake news?

I assume that it is likely, because both the Allies and Japan& were working on biological weapons during ww2. And then you've got the US Navy spraying bacteria over San Francisco in 1950, and then the Montreal brainwashing experiments.
 
I had to Google that. Urm...

Have you ever seen the documentary "Empire of Dust"? It’s about the Chinese developing Africa. It’s a tiny window into the problems China is having with trade and industry in Africa, and certainly not the whole picture because Africa claims China is taking advantage of them.
 
Do y’all remember the genetically modified twin girls the Chinese created?

The lead scientist was sentenced to 3 years in jail just a few months ago.
 
Have you ever seen the documentary "Empire of Dust"? It’s about the Chinese developing Africa. It’s a tiny window into the problems China is having with trade and industry in Africa, and certainly not the whole picture because Africa claims China is taking advantage of them.

I downloaded it but I didn't watch it, because it was basically some Chinese and Congolese talking to each other in Chinese.
But this article summarises it.
Are these the points you were getting at as well?

"1. Filmmaker: Your film depicts many racist exchanges between the Chinese and the Congolese. It makes you wonder how they’re able to co-exist and, to some extent, get work done.
Van Paesschen: I must say that there are other countries investing in the country—Canada, the United States, Australia and South Africa are some of the main players. They are quite crude and racist too, but they hide it. They make these partnerships with NGOs and pretend they care about human rights, but they really don’t like it. The Chinese are honest. So in a way, what should one appreciate more? The honesty or the hypocritical stance of the Western companies? [The Chinese] don’t care about human rights and they’re honest about it. “We don’t care. We’re here to do our job. And we’re here to invest in the country.

Filmmaker: But the basis of the China-Congo deal is that it will serve a mutual benefit. Do you foresee the possibility that the Congolese won’t benefit in the ways that they are promised?
Van Paesschen: For sure, they won’t benefit. And they know it already. Because it’s just history repeating itself. You have to ask yourself why the other companies didn’t start renovating the roads before the Chinese came in. That’s because the companies who have been there for a long time don’t trust the Congolese government. Many of the Congolese think that [the Chinese] will get fed up negotiating because the Congolese government always wants to review the contracts and renew the contracts. And the benefit of the contract goes to the higher-level persons in the Congo, not to the population. That’s what’s sad about it. Because they could benefit from it, even the way the deal is now. But they really won’t."
https://filmmakermagazine.com/35197-empire-of-dust-an-interview-with-bram-van-paesschen/

Do y’all remember the genetically modified twin girls the Chinese created?

The lead scientist was sentenced to 3 years in jail just a few months ago.

I just saw it.
Weird.
I remember clearly how proud the Chinese government were of those researchers and their accolades in 2018, and on Dec. 2019 the same government sent them to jail? :confused:
 
Yes, but I'm fairly positive that ancestryDNA is being regularly hacked into to help with genetic treatment research. If Garry McKinnon hacked into NASA, how hard is it for governments to do that?

And I can foresee a time, 10 years from now, when China will start utilising all of these for more nefarious purposes (ie population control through sterilizing undesirables and so on).


I have a question:
I keep reading that even more ethical countries such as Canada have bioweapons research facilities, is this true or fake news?

I assume that it is likely, because both the Allies and Japan& were working on biological weapons during ww2. And then you've got the US Navy spraying bacteria over San Francisco in 1950, and then the Montreal brainwashing experiments.




What Countries Have Them? Only 16 countries plus Taiwan have had or are currently suspected of having biological weapons programs: Canada, China, Cuba, France, Germany, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Libya, North Korea, Russia, South Africa, Syria, the United Kingdom and the United States.Dec 30, 2015

Does America have bioweapons?
Throughout its history, the U.S. bioweapons program was secret. ... Recent U.S. biodefense programs, however, have raised concerns that the U.S. may be pursuing research that is outlawed by The United Nations. Initial interest in any form of biological warfare came at the close of World War I.
 
I downloaded it but I didn't watch it, because it was basically some Chinese and Congolese talking to each other in Chinese.
But this article summarises it.
Are these the points you were getting at as well?

"1. Filmmaker: Your film depicts many racist exchanges between the Chinese and the Congolese. It makes you wonder how they’re able to co-exist and, to some extent, get work done.
Van Paesschen: I must say that there are other countries investing in the country—Canada, the United States, Australia and South Africa are some of the main players. They are quite crude and racist too, but they hide it. They make these partnerships with NGOs and pretend they care about human rights, but they really don’t like it. The Chinese are honest. So in a way, what should one appreciate more? The honesty or the hypocritical stance of the Western companies? [The Chinese] don’t care about human rights and they’re honest about it. “We don’t care. We’re here to do our job. And we’re here to invest in the country.

Filmmaker: But the basis of the China-Congo deal is that it will serve a mutual benefit. Do you foresee the possibility that the Congolese won’t benefit in the ways that they are promised?
Van Paesschen: For sure, they won’t benefit. And they know it already. Because it’s just history repeating itself. You have to ask yourself why the other companies didn’t start renovating the roads before the Chinese came in. That’s because the companies who have been there for a long time don’t trust the Congolese government. Many of the Congolese think that [the Chinese] will get fed up negotiating because the Congolese government always wants to review the contracts and renew the contracts. And the benefit of the contract goes to the higher-level persons in the Congo, not to the population. That’s what’s sad about it. Because they could benefit from it, even the way the deal is now. But they really won’t."
https://filmmakermagazine.com/35197-empire-of-dust-an-interview-with-bram-van-paesschen/

Yeah, that captures the spirit of it.
There needs to be an update though. The documentary was made a decade ago, so I assume this interview is old too. China is now to main investor in Africa and the USA and other western countries have scaled way back.


I just saw it.
Weird.
I remember clearly how proud the Chinese government were of those researchers and their accolades in 2018, and on Dec. 2019 the same government sent them to jail? :confused:



I wouldn’t be surprised if it was theater, but my point is that we have proof the Chinese are messing around with organisms’ genetic material. So it’s not to far of a stretch to imagine them tinkering with viruses in their lvl4, high-security, bioengineering lab in Wuhan.
 
Some of these comments...

Some of these comments make it seem like some races are genetically healthier than others. I thought all races were the same height and weight and that we all have the exact same level of health and I.Q. So if we are not all genetically equal then is nature itself racist?

What about other species? I thought all breeds of dogs are the same height and weight and intelligence. They are all equal... right? No?

So there must be a difference between "equal rights" and "genetically equal."
 
2 possible factors -

a life style thing in so far as some groups live in extended family units under the same roof - in a way a bit like norther italy and spain - so no doubt leicester will have a high rate - as will no doubt other areas of similar population make up, often employed (if lucky enough to have a job) in a low paid work. some of the older group in that section will alos no doubt have lung conditions due to working in textile mills.

Religion plays a part possibly - i have just bought , for work, a quantity of alcohol hand sanitiser - from a re purposed gin distilery - i was advised to warn certain religions not to use it due to it containing alcohol. if that is right information then religion is a contributing factor.

Nottingham is a weird place by the sound of it (to another poster)

A lot of Moslems living in the west, drink alcohol. The Quran forbids drinking fermented grape juice. So they can drink beer and bourbon. Just not wine and brandy.
 
Some of these comments make it seem like some races are genetically healthier than others. I thought all races were the same height and weight and that we all have the exact same level of health and I.Q. So if we are not all genetically equal then is nature itself racist?

What about other species? I thought all breeds of dogs are the same height and weight and intelligence. They are all equal... right? No?

So there must be a difference between "equal rights" and "genetically equal."

Whaaatt??? Bringing in rationality, rather than feelings/knee-jerk reactions?
 
Still, I don't like how some in the media are beginning to make this into a racial thing. Plenty of old white folks are dying, too. Look what's going on in parts of Europe! I see what they are trying to do and it's wrong. It's a respiratory infection and is easily spread from one person to another. It started it Asia and spread around the world through traveling.

The Rona doesn't care about race. The biggest factors are age and underlying health conditions.
 
You don't "see" because "they" aren't "doing" what you "see 'they'<sic> are doing."
 
This is the only part I agree with.

I offer up my wisdom ala carte. You may consume as much or little as you wish. No extra charge for second helpings.

I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

Be sure to tip your waitress.
 
What Countries Have Them? Only 16 countries plus Taiwan have had or are currently suspected of having biological weapons programs: Canada, China, Cuba, France, Germany, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Libya, North Korea, Russia, South Africa, Syria, the United Kingdom and the United States.Dec 30, 2015

Does America have bioweapons?
Throughout its history, the U.S. bioweapons program was secret. ... Recent U.S. biodefense programs, however, have raised concerns that the U.S. may be pursuing research that is outlawed by The United Nations. Initial interest in any form of biological warfare came at the close of World War I.


I was curious because some of the covid19 conspiracy theories claim that the virus precursor was either stolen, or bought by Chinese from Canada or US labs.

The "stolen/bought" parts are coo-coo, of course.

But the part about bio research labs (including defensive bioweapons research) existing in those countries sounded plausible to me.

Still, I don't like how some in the media are beginning to make this into a racial thing. Plenty of old white folks are dying, too. Look what's going on in parts of Europe! I see what they are trying to do and it's wrong. It's a respiratory infection and is easily spread from one person to another. It started it Asia and spread around the world through traveling.

The Rona doesn't care about race. The biggest factors are age and underlying health conditions.

I, too roll my eyes at how both political extremes politicised the issue (poverty versus bad habits).

But there IS a certain trend:
China, Italy, Spain and Black neighbourhoods in NY are among the hardest hit.

Is it also because those neighbourhoods /populations came in contact with a more virulent strain?
Or because the virus is more selective towards certain genetic subpopulations?
 
The Rona doesn't care about race. The biggest factors are age and underlying health conditions.

Yep, but underlying health conditions can often be the consequence of inadequate healthcare due to poverty.

The way they’re trying to spin this is that their misrepresentation of statistical data is evidence of racial economic inequality resulting in more BAME deaths.

The fact is the data we have is both inconclusive and not accurate enough to draw those kinds of conclusion. It’s also a fact that their methodology is fundamentally wrong.

This is even more stark in the UK where both basic healthcare and income benefits are exactly the same for everyone, regardless of race. And where “white” British numerically out number BAME at the bottom of the economic pile, another factor which they choose to ignore!

Woof!
 
Does anyone remember the SARS outbreaks in China?

That was blamed on animal to human transmission too. It originated in the province south of Wuhan’s province, and also has a bio lab. There’s like half a dozen bio labs in China which were all founded by European scientists. The French setup the Wuhan lab. I imagine China doesn’t have strict regulations limiting what these scientists can tinker with.

China has had a few waves of SARS. We were told that it was reinfection.
 
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