Is the two party system dead

[Sean Renaud]

That is not true, it is a pet cause of the WSJ for example. However due to the political opposition, it just isn't discussed publicly...outside college campuses of course. Ideologically, unregulated immigration is the cause which has united the radical left (which sees racial differences as the main obstacle to their utopia) with big business.

If it's not spoken of it really doesn't matter. It's a sufficiently small group that we needn't worry.

Sanders' campaign is finished. If you believe Hillary will overturn Citizens United considering how much money she's received from Wall Street, you're crazy.

I trust her to over turn Citizen's United. Call me crazy we'll find out if she becomes president when she gets to nominate a judge. Until then we'll have no way of knowing.

I doubt most Americans would be prepared to suit and boot up to fight in a war half a world away. I wouldn't. Unless you are prepared to put your own (or your husband/son's) life on the line you are not really "for" these wars. It is easy to preach when someone else has to fight your wars for you.

But someone else will be fighting these wars for the foreseable future. You're right, we'd think twice about it if we were the ones making the sacrifice. But we're not. A bunch of poor kids who are lucky to have jobs are the ones risking life and limb. They should be happy not to be on welfare.

That's the unfortunate long and short of it. Even within the service there is a saying "U Signed the Motherfucking Contract". Politically that is the difference between an all volunteer military and a draft army. People give a shit about a draft army made up of friends and family who had no say in it. People pretend to give a shit about people they don't know who went of their own violtion. Sure they'll thank us for our service, but pitch some money to get us better health care? Nope.

Dems have a warped perception of personal freedoms. They fight against any freedoms that don't harmonize with progressive ideology, and support the few that do.

For example, how many Dems believe:
Low-income housing should not forced on majority-white neighbourhoods to make them "more diverse", as this violates one's freedom of association
The federal government shouldn't create a registry of all gun owners, as this violates one's rights to privacy
The Supreme Court shouldn't force a state to legalize gay marriage if the majority of people there disagree, as this violates one's religious freedom
College campuses should repeal their speech codes which criminalise "offensive" and "hateful" language, because they are politically motivated and violates one's freedom of speech

Everybody has a warped sense of personal freedoms because it's an intensely personal issue.

Most Dems I imagine would support putting low income housing in good positions. Your freedom of association be damned.

There are some who want a registry of all gun owners. The right to privacy is one that comes and goes. The right are the ones defending the the Patriot Act for example. There is a registry for vehicles and all sorts of other things.

The Supreme Court should force states to accept gay marriage. 14the Amendment and Equal protection clause cover that. Don't like it? Change the constitution.

Freedom of speech is another that comes and goes. I don't see you guys championing flag burning.

I call it warped that we actually discuss gay marriage and more than we do interacial or divorce.

 

[sr71plt]

but that is largely due to the fact they are literally sent overseas & risking their lives with no choice in the matter.

Technically (and, thus, also literally) this isn't true. We have an all-volunteer army. They could avoid being sent overseas simply by not enlisting--which wasn't a choice when I was young. There still are some of us very much aware of the difference between "then" and "now."

 

[sr71plt]

I trust her to over turn Citizen's United. Call me crazy we'll find out if she becomes president when she gets to nominate a judge. Until then we'll have no way of knowing.

She's already taken the money. I can easily see her just saying she has seen the light on this and giving them a big whack. At this point it will stifle her opposition. She already has the money she needs.

I continue to see a lot of posters here who are clueless about who has developed the balls to actually be president.

 

[Real_American17]

She's already taken the money. I can easily see her just saying she has seen the light on this and giving them a big whack.

They killed JFK, they can kill HRC.

 

[Sean Renaud]

She's already taken the money. I can easily see her just saying she has seen the light on this and giving them a big whack. At this point it will stifle her opposition. She already has the money she needs.

I continue to see a lot of posters here who are clueless about who has developed the balls to actually be president.

And a healthy chunk of them gave her the money knowing good and damn well this was her goal. I don't know how many of them for sure since they haven't been open and honest. There is no Bill Maher this go round stating "well if people can drop a million dollars I'ma drop a million dollars!" but they had to know the risks at the very least.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

Technically (and, thus, also literally) this isn't true. We have an all-volunteer army. They could avoid being sent overseas simply by not enlisting--which wasn't a choice when I was young. There still are some of us very much aware of the difference between "then" and "now."

When I was in high school, they told us we had to enlist. I didn't know how, & didn't bother finding out due to betting my medical issues would keep me out... Each branch called my home & spoke to me anyway.

 

[sr71plt]

They killed JFK, they can kill HRC.

Since you have crossed a line in posting this, I'll note that I think that Trump and Cruz are far more in danger of getting the George Wallace treatment (for the same reason he did--over the top ideological extremism) as Hillary Clinton is.

 

[Real_American17]

Since you have crossed a line in posting this

What line?

I'll note that I think that Trump and Cruz are far more in danger of getting the George Wallace treatment (for the same reason he did--over the top ideological extremism) as Hillary Clinton is.

You're wrong, messing with Big Money is more likely to get you killed.

 

[sr71plt]

When I was in high school, they told us we had to enlist. I didn't know how, & didn't bother finding out due to betting my medical issues would keep me out... Each branch called my home & spoke to me anyway.

I don't see the relevance of this (and I can't say I believe you). When we had the draft, you had to register and might be taken whether or not you wanted to be. The day the draft ended, one no longer could be coerced to serve. There was no interim time of maybe being able to be coerced. Sorry, I don't believe each branch of the service directly called/tried to recruit anyone in any time, either when there was a draft or when there wasn't.

Whatever, you statement still is not true.

 

[sr71plt]

What line?

The line of good taste and propriety. Posting about popping leaders off is beyond the pale.

You're wrong, messing with Big Money is more likely to get you killed.

You're just being naive. Big business doesn't go around popping leaders off like this. It's a convoluted game. They just rev up the lobbyists.

You really aren't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

 

[Real_American17]

The line of good taste and propriety. Posting about popping leaders off is beyond the pale.

Fuck off you cunt.

You're just being naive. Big business doesn't go around popping leaders off like this. It's a convoluted game. They just rev up the lobbyists.

You really aren't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

You're the idiot if you think those with billions/trillions of dollars on the line won't have people killed.

Governments do it, unions do it, mobs do it, Hell even junkies in the streets do it...

If they paid her money and she turns around and screws them, they will get rid of her and make sure her replacement goes with the script.

 

[sr71plt]

Egging on assassinations in posts is, of course, a banning-level offense on the Internet, but then you've been there sixteen times already, haven't you and still haven't gotten the message that you're not wanted?

Tuning you out again. You've been banned repeatedly and that's good enough for me to pretend you're not here.

(Funny you mention script. I think you learned most you "know" from TV serials.) Name a few politicians big business has knocked off for business reasons.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't see the relevance of this (and I can't say I believe you). When we had the draft, you had to register and might be taken whether or not you wanted to be. The day the draft ended, one no longer could be coerced to serve. There was no interim time of maybe being able to be coerced. Sorry, I don't believe each branch of the service directly called/tried to recruit anyone in any time, either when there was a draft or when there wasn't.

Whatever, you statement still is not true.

I'm pretty sure I was called by all of them. At least three out of four but I had an absurdly high ASVAB, and when they came to my school it's entirely probable that I filled out the silly postcard for all of them. I had the spare time since it was a school day n all.

 

[sr71plt]

The Coast Guard? The Public Health Service? The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration? (There are seven uniformed services counting for military service)

 

[Real_American17]

Egging on assassinations in posts is, of course, a banning-level offense on the Internet, but then you've been there sixteen times already, haven't you and still haven't gotten the message that you're not wanted?

1) Show where I've done that...
2) I didn't know the internet was a monolithic setting with rules, I thought it was a collection of individual sites all with their own rules.

Silly me, I forget we're living in these progressive times.

Tuning you out again. You've been banned repeatedly and that's good enough for me to pretend you're not here.

All I hear is that you are a faggot and afraid of debate.

(Funny you mention script. I think you learned most you "know" from TV serials.) Name a few politicians big business has knocked off for business reasons.

What a total non-point you've made, sad little faggot.

Live in your delusional fantasy world where politicians are not assassinated for financial interests... what a fucking moron you are.

Entire governments have been over turned for the financial gain of private corporations.

 

[sr71plt]

Nope. None of that provided names of politicians who have been offed by big business for business reasons.

Guess you think the name calling makes you someone intelligent, right? Guess again.

 

[Real_American17]

Nope. None of that provided names of politicians who have been offed by big business for business reasons.

Guess you think the name calling makes you someone intelligent, right? Guess again.

What a total clown you are.

1) Frank Steunenberg
2) http://www.alternet.org/story/14657..._leaders_explored_in_powerful_new_documentary

 

[Sean Renaud]

Do unionists qualify as politicians?

 

[sr71plt]

Do unionists qualify as politicians?

No, but it was fun making him waste the time researching it.

 

[Real_American17]

Do unionists qualify as politicians?

Yes.

No, but it was fun making him waste the time researching it.

Not a waste you disgusting nigger.

Big Business like any other powerful group after money will kill it's enemies.

A weak beta male pussy like you living in a cowards world defended by real men wouldn't understand that.

Go back to your coffee shop and pretend to write a play you SJW hipster piece of trash.

 

[BotanyBoy]

A weak beta male pussy like you living in a cowards world defended by real men wouldn't understand that.

Go back to your coffee shop

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4370648/troy-gas-leak-laugh-o.gif
That's some funny fuckin' shit coming from a FOBBIT right there LMFAO!!!

 

[Real_American17]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4370648/troy-gas-leak-laugh-o.gif
That's some funny fuckin' shit coming from a FOBBIT right there LMFAO!!!

Ow, that might mean something if it wasn't coming from an oath breaking, communist, coward!

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yes.

Not a waste you disgusting nigger.

Big Business like any other powerful group after money will kill it's enemies.

A weak beta male pussy like you living in a cowards world defended by real men wouldn't understand that.

Go back to your coffee shop and pretend to write a play you SJW hipster piece of trash.

If Unionist qualify as politicians so do chess players and drug dealers.

Aww so stupid.

 

[Real_American17]

If Unionist qualify as politicians so do chess players and drug dealers.

Yeah, when chess players and drug dealers get elected to office...

Idiot, your a stupid nigger just like the other guy if you don't think powerful multi-national corporations and banking cabals would be willing to kill a politician.

Mafias, cartels, kill judges, sheriffs, prosecutes all the time.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

If Unionist qualify as politicians so do chess players and drug dealers.

Aww so stupid.

The stupid one is the one making those claims.

People smart enough to play chess (at least well or with any level of success) aren't as dumb as the average politician.

Most drug dealers have too much of a criminal record to risk their pasts getting out in the public, which would cancel the vote. Also, the illegal jobs always make far more $ than being in the government.