Isn't it time to drop the "Deep State" nonsense once and for all?

[pecksniff]

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You don't seriously believe, do you, that there is any behind-the-scenes connection between those things? That's tinfoil-hat territory.

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

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[pecksniff]

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See post #26.

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

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[ShyBiGuy954]

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[pecksniff]

FBI, CIA, assorted media underground operations, AKA: deep state

But, we always knew those things existed.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

The Deep State is real, and a real menace. Democracy is increasingly a joke, a Playskool car dash board where nothing is connected to anything. The permanent bureaucracy runs the show.

 

[WillJ8787]

You're an idiot, it does exist. The Deep State is a reference to those people or departments in the administrative state ("bureaucracy" for the mentally lame) who are politicized to the point of opposition to the elected executive, or pursue policy interests of their own, instead of those expressed through the election process by the American people themselves. Every country, with a democratic form of government, "does not" need a cabal of entrenched fifth columnists working to assure that change expressed by the voters never occurs. The bottom line in America is all of those in government work for us.

This sounds like a fairytale bedtime story...

Tonight, we are going to read about the big bad deep state....my what big teeth you have, my what big claws you have...chuckles!

I guess if you believe in Santa Claus, The Great Pumpkin, Space.lasers setting fires funded by Soros and the immaculate conception (right...what a great story to save oneself from illicit fucking) then the deep state is very easy to believe in....bigly chuckles!

 

[KeithD]

Donald Trump tried to create his own deep state, embedding his henchmen in strategic places within the United States government, to support a coup attempt. He failed in sustaining the embedding save for the continued placement of a Postmaster General who is fucking up the mails (I received no mail delivery last week, for instance).

Oh, and the Republican Party leadership. They are still in place, continuing to try to effect Trump's coup.

 

[WillJ8787]

Donald Trump tried to create his own deep state, embedding his henchmen in strategic places within the United States government, to support a coup attempt. He failed in sustaining the embedding save for the continued placement of a Postmaster General who is fucking up the mails (I received no mail delivery last week, for instance).

Oh, and the Republican Party leadership. They are still in place, continuing to try to effect Trump's coup.

In other words, a coup via facist Authoritarianism. Hitler tried that....the first time he went to prison after it failed...then he wrote Mein Kompf...then, eventually....we all know how it ends.

 

[pecksniff]

The Deep State is real, and a real menace. Democracy is increasingly a joke, a Playskool car dash board where nothing is connected to anything. The permanent bureaucracy runs the show.

No, the plutocracy runs the show.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

When a book comes out talking about how Mark Milley assumed effective control over our nuclear arsenal, despite there being no authorized chain of command to him, it's not a good time to be poo-poo'ing the Deep State.

It's real, and it only can exist by convincing people it doesn.t

 

[Rightguide]

Donald Trump tried to create his own deep state, embedding his henchmen in strategic places within the United States government, to support a coup attempt. He failed in sustaining the embedding save for the continued placement of a Postmaster General who is fucking up the mails (I received no mail delivery last week, for instance).

Oh, and the Republican Party leadership. They are still in place, continuing to try to effect Trump's coup.

Fake News.

 

[pecksniff]

Fake News.

Whenever a RW calls something "fake news," that's a sure sign it ain't.

 

[pecksniff]

Bumping this because there are still idiots on this board referring to the "Deep State" as if it were a thing.

 

[ll74]

Drop it like it's hot

 

[BidudeinWi]

It does not exist, at least not in the form Trump describes, if that is not too strong a word. There is a "permanent government" of career civil servants who remain in place regardless of how elections go, but every country has (and needs) one of those -- there is nothing sinister or alarming about it.

Peckersneverstiff sometimes pulls his head out of his ass to take a breath! Apparently not often enough!

Quit reading the WAPO, watching CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, HLN ETC., and FUCKING EDUCATE YOUR GLIB OLD ASS!

 

[BidudeinWi]

You don't seriously believe, do you, that there is any behind-the-scenes connection between those things? That's tinfoil-hat territory.

Ummm, if that is a Twitter feed, that account doesn’t exist. (Or at least it doesn’t exist any longer.)

 

[pecksniff]

'Stop the Steal' attorney Lin Wood now claims QAnon is 'likely a deep state operation'.

Curiouser and curiouser.

 

[Cubantripod]

It doesn't exist in the way Trump describes it. It exists in the way Tony Blair describes it.

 

[phrodeau]

Peckersneverstiff sometimes pulls his head out of his ass to take a breath! Apparently not often enough!

Quit reading the WAPO, watching CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, HLN ETC., and FUCKING EDUCATE YOUR GLIB OLD ASS!

Thanks for the tip, ostrich.

 

[pecksniff]

It doesn't exist in the way Trump describes it. It exists in the way Tony Blair describes it.

How does he describe it? And, does that mean the UK has a Deep State, or is he still talking about the U.S.?

 

[Cubantripod]

How does he describe it? And, does that mean the UK has a Deep State, or is he still talking about the U.S.?

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ste...-deep-state-and-tony-blair-warned-me-about-it

 

[Sean Renaud]

You wonder why we call you bigots as you declare openly that people of color are unworthy of life.

I must admit based on this post and the fact that Gothtalk isn't going to rip you in half that I do call you guys racist bigots because you disagree with me. But its because our disagreement is that I beleive I deserve to be treated the same as everybody else including maintaining a pulse and both of you have proven you disagree with my stance on that.

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[pecksniff]

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ste...-deep-state-and-tony-blair-warned-me-about-it

Blair was candid and thoughtful, and gave us a brilliant primer on what he’d learned about making the machinery of government work. But there was one thing above all that stood out from our conversation: his blunt warning about the administrative state and the attitude any incoming government would face from the permanent bureaucracy.

“You cannot underestimate how much they believe it’s their job to actually run the country and to resist the changes put forward by people they dismiss as ‘here today, gone tomorrow’ politicians,” Blair said. “They genuinely see themselves as the true guardians of the national interest, and think that their job is simply to wear you down and wait you out.”

That, in a nutshell, is the Deep State.

Actually, that sounds more like Yes Minister.

Appleby is stubborn and obstructive and sometimes infuriating -- but there is never anything threatening or sinister about him. He's simply an expected and intended part of the system, just as much as Hacker. And the American civil service is certainly no worse in that regard.