It's all over. She's too smart.

ruminator said:
So is Arnold but that doesn't seem to be a big drawback.

This is where the core values of America come into play. We are all basically foreigners here. The strength of citizenship is valued higher by people like her.

She will help stir the true feelings of patriotism and not the store brand off the shelf.

He's GOP. Ergo, somehow, he's automatically a patriotic American. Teresa may have only recently switched parties, but the people who will have the knee-jerk reaction to her being an immigrant aren't generally people who would bother learning a damn thing about her.
 
minsue said:
He's GOP. Ergo, somehow, he's automatically a patriotic American. Teresa may have only recently switched parties, but the people who will have the knee-jerk reaction to her being an immigrant aren't generally people who would bother learning a damn thing about her.

I'm registered Independent and lean more to the Liberal or Progressive foundation. The thing that strikes me in watching this DNC is the diversity of cultures represented in the audience. I believe in the investment in human dignity and this is closest I can find in American politics.

You're right about THK not being accepted (as a foreigner) by those who would probably not accept her anyway.
 
shereads said:
Saved! Maybe!

Edwards' wife just called her husband "My rock and my love."

She scores Supportive Wife points without the smarmy Awestruck Gaze.

Better still, she announced that in two days, she and her husband will celebrate their anniversary "where we always do, at Wendys'."

GOOOOOOAAAAAL!!!!

Brilliant. It won't make McDonalds happy, but as Og recently pointed out, McDonalds is a symbol of globalization at its ugliest. Wendy's is the boomer fast-food joint. What more could America ask for?

ROFLMAO
 
I liked her. I liked her a lot.

Of all the potential first ladies I've ever seen, she's the first one who's had soul.

In my opinion too, she's the first one who's truly beautiful.

Maybe they're the same thing.

---dr.M.
 
Speech was described as a '50's Hallmark Greeting Card'. (MSNBC) I watched it. I agree.

Has any one even heard the words "Democratic Party Platform' spoken in recent days?

I supposed in its absence one could sum it up, "Anit-Bush"

amicus
 
shereads said:
Applause line of the night:

"If George Bush had selected the court in 1954, Clarence Thomas would never have been admitted to law school."

~ Kendrick Meek

If Clarence Thomas was a supreme court justice in 1954, Clarence Thomas would never have been admitted to law school.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I liked her. I liked her a lot.

Of all the potential first ladies I've ever seen, she's the first one who's had soul.

In my opinion too, she's the first one who's truly beautiful.

Maybe they're the same thing.

---dr.M.

You think she's beautiful? I didn't think so until watching her speak last night. She seemed radiant. It's the kind of beauty that the new grown-up Chelsea Clinton shows sparks of now and again; beauty that has more to do with grace and confidence than with bone structure and great hair.

I've heard two men today - one on television and one in the office - say Kerry must have married her for her money because she is - in the words of this creepy groper at work - "coarse" and "unwomanly." His wife is a timid thing. Womanly.
 
Clare Quilty said:
If Clarence Thomas was a supreme court justice in 1954, Clarence Thomas would never have been admitted to law school.

If Clarence Thomas was Anita Hill, Anita Hill would be Sandra Day O'Connor. I guess O'Connor would be the late Earl Warren.
 
Lucifer_Carroll said:
Personally I'm waiting for them to elect Tom the smily face on a paper cup to the office of a president.

I hate him. Who is he to tell me what kind of day to have?
 
ruminator said:
This has the potential to be a crossroads to look back on. It might differentiate the voting population into groups who think and groups who don't appreciate critical thinking.

Again?

:D
 
I think Teresa is pretty and has sexy look about her. She kind of reminds me of an older version of Stephanie Powers.
 
Couture said:
I think Teresa is pretty and has sexy look about her. She kind of reminds me of an older version of Stephanie Powers.

She reminds me most of an older Ingrid Bergman.

---dr.M.
 
John Edwards reminds me of the young Ingmar Bergman. If Bergman had been from North Carolina. And if he had looked different.
 
minsue[/i] [b]I think more Americans will take issue with the fact that she wasn't born in the US than with her intelligence. Either way said:
So is Arnold but that doesn't seem to be a big drawback.


Remember, though... Ahhhnollld was elected in Calipornia, which isn't really part of this country.... :devil:
 
sir_Winston54 said:
Remember, though... Ahhhnollld was elected in Calipornia, which isn't really part of this country.... :devil:
We wish.

Perdita, San Franciscan :p
 
Couture said:
And between Bush and McCain, the republicans came up with Bush? WTF was that all about?

IMO the religious right had a lot of money, and a lot of favors to call in. That's how Bush got it over McCain.

I'm waiting for and hoping that McCain and Zell Miller will tell the Repubs and Dems to get bent and run as a ticket in 2008.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
IMO the religious right had a lot of money, and a lot of favors to call in. That's how Bush got it over McCain.

I'm waiting for and hoping that McCain and Zell Miller will tell the Repubs and Dems to get bent and run as a ticket in 2008.

You're an optimist, Wild. I'm hoping the Constitution will still be recognizable in 2008, and that McCain and Zell Miller will be free to do as they please.

We're about to put all the power of three branches of government into the hands of one party, with Bush/Cheney at its helm, John Ashcroft as its moral guide, and a Supreme Court remade in their image. We'll be lucky to recognize this country in four years.
 
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shereads said:
You're an optimist, Wild. I'm hoping the Constitution will still be recognizable in 2008, and that McCain and Zell Miller will be free to do as they please.

We're about to put all the power of three branches of government into the hands of one party, with Bush/Cheney at its helm, John Ashcroft as its moral guide, and a Supreme Court remade in their image. We'll be lucky to recognize this country in four years.

All three branches have been in those hands for a few years now. Hopefully the Dems will win at least one (but not all) of those three and we will get some balance back.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
All three branches have been in those hands for a few years now.


Not quite. There have been one to two swing votes on the Supreme Court, and those votes have been the only thing standing between John Ashcroft and our right to due process, not to mention unrestricted access to this forum.

As for Congress seeing a power shift, there's every likelihood that it will go even farther to the right. Why do you think Tom DeLay worked so hard on the Texas redistricting effort?

Deny it all you like, but November is your last chance to decide whether the neocons have power all to themselves for the next four years. Let Bush/Cheney appoint the next Supreme Court justice and you might as well give Ashcroft a pen and the Bill of Rights and permission to do whatever he thinks is best for your soul.
 
I reiterate my offer to any Litsters who may have to cut and run in a hurry should Shrub II win again.

I can put you up for a few days at least.
 
and n'er the twain shall meet...

About half of all Americans would be happy to never see a liberal occupy the White House again.

It will take more than just the next four years to rid the bureauocracy of all the 'social mandates' that have been around since the beginning of the 20th century.

All of the rights and liberties ennumerated by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights will be fully protected by a Supreme Court that 'enforces' that codification of law. Replacing revisionist Judges will once again see a Court that 'upholds' law instead of creating new legislation. America does not need an 'activist' Supreme Court, it needs one that will fairly judge challenges to the laws of the land.

Perhaps if we could somehow have a 'rational' voice in the White House and in Congress for the next 20 years, as was the Roosevelt/Truman era, just perhaps, we could undo all the damage done.

I am passionate but not rabid, as the left seems to be, in my advocacy of human freedom.

I want people to be free to choose how they educate their children and not forced by mandatory attendance to Federally Mandated and State enforced education funded by confiscatory property taxes, support for ideological instructors and fees that force young people into debt for years.

I want people to be free in their choice of a retirement program, not be subject to taxes collected at the point of a gun. I want at least the opportunity to invest a portion of my savings in a retirement fund that after a lifetime of labor, will give a comfortable existence in the golden years.

I want a medical system set free from government, one that might respond to the supply and demand apparatus of the market place. One that will then provide quality service at a reasonable price. Not the monopolized, government administered 'Post Office' approach to medicine.

Very simply put, I want the freedom our founding documents listed and swore to uphold.

We don't need you to tell us how to live, how to save, how to educate our children, as a matter of fact, we don't need you at all.

Amicus
 
Well....still waiting for the Kerry speech tonight.

From what I've heard so far tonight....

anyone else getting the feeling they're trying to out-Republican the Republicans? I watch a few sports in my spare time and know a bit more about the subject than politics, however, as a rule, this strategy doesn't work so well.
 
Couture said:
Well....still waiting for the Kerry speech tonight.

From what I've heard so far tonight....

anyone else getting the feeling they're trying to out-Republican the Republicans?


That seems to be the concensus of Republicans, and I don't know why. I must have missed some evidence that the Grand Old Party emphasizes the right of consenting adults to read, write and have sex as they please without fear of government surveillance and loss of due process, and I also missed the part of the last four years and the twelve pre-Clinton years where there was emphasis on civil rights, protection of the environment, and the value of ethnic diversity.

I've never seen a Republican gathering made up of all the colors and kinds of people that I see in my neighborhood supermarket. This convention looks like a cross-section of ordinary Americans because that's the makeup of the Democratic party. They're the ones whose health care, jobs and civil liberties are on the line, and the ones whose sons and daughters are at risk when people like Bush/Cheney protect their own children and grandkids without regard for children who weren't born rich.

The floor of this convention is filled with people who aren't universally white, predominantly male, and financially wel-off, not because the party calculated how many Blacks and Hispanics and women it should display for the cameras, but because they ARE the party.

They're mad as hell, they're scared to death, their civil liberties are on the line, and if they aren't middle-class and unemployed they at least know someone who is. They know it's do or die in November. Literally, for their own 19-year-old kids or the kids of people they care about.

Even our rich people care less about their own tax cut than they do about what it cost those who have less.

This reminds us of the Republican party how?

:rolleyes:
 
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