Job help

[Fly_On_Wall]

Okay I've been asking anyone and everyone for the longest time about this.

Last year i was forced to quit my job at chryslers, cause I can't do that kind of work anymore.
since then (it will be 14 months in 2 days) i've been looking for a new job to no avail (i'm looking for something in my field). for a year everyday i wake up and look online on the job search engins from 9am till 12 pm, then i take a brake. (that's over 40 or so searches that are just like newspaper adds) then come night I look in the newspapper, then online for newspapers in serounding citys.

I belong to 8 employment agencies now, none of which are any damn help. I called my techers weekly for any help they could provide... they nolonger accept my e-mails anymore lol.
My firneds that have jobs in the field I talk to whenever i can to see if they know any openings.

I can go a few more months (about 8-9) without a job before money becomes a problem, I"ve always been good with my money. but mentaly I need something to do cause my days are getting boreing, as i sit here day in and day out doing nothing.

so my point of all this, is there any Ideas or sugestions besides the ones i'm already doing that could help me find a job?

I'll take any idea no mater how dumb it sounds..... within reason.

if you took the time to read all this, thanks and I'll awaite your ideas.

 

[estevie]

Huggggs Fly! Hang in there, hon! It sounds like you are doing everything you can. Your perfect job is out there. Is there a way to maybe look in a different field of work but still utilize the knowledge that you have? Did that make sense? arggg, I'm not helping I'm sorry! You'll find one, I promise...k?

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

Fly, a couple of questions and a couple of ideas:

1) What is the area you are seeking employment in again? It is something to do with art right?

2) Are you willing to relocate? Have you checked for jobs in other locations?

3) Are you willing to take a job in a parallel area?

Idea 1) Put up a web page with examples of your work.

Idea 2) Explore parallel job offerings where your expertise would be helpful.

 

[lilminx]

Just to fill in your time, have you thought about volunteer work or temping? Just a thought....

And I hope that eventually your job search is fruitful

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

K let's see if i can get this all hehe

1) What is the area you are seeking employment in again? It is something to do with art right?

I'm an architectural technologest, but i have other knowledge

2) Are you willing to relocate? Have you checked for jobs in other locations?

yes i've been looking for jobs in near by town citys villages etc... I'm willing to relocate if i can but not too far from my family... for reasons i'd rather not descuss in a public chat.

3) Are you willing to take a job in a parallel area?

I'm willing to take anything in the Drafting field to start with I have applyed for some jobs that are just drone drafting work and been told i'm over qualified.

Just to fill in your time, have you thought about volunteer work or temping? Just a thought....

I would do volunteer if i could, that would be a good way to get my foot in the door, but I can't even find that. as for temp work, don't exist in my field. if someone was working on a drawing for say a month then is sick for a week.... it would take me that week to find out what they are doing and never actualy get to doing anywork... there is contract work though wich is an emplyer takes you on for say 6 months then when it's done your eather hired on full time or look for work again.

I already have a portfolio online for people to view and it's posted on my resume too.
Whatever job i get it will have to be a sitdown job where i'm not walking around too much... and architecture technology is basicly the only thing i know. Everyone keeps telling me not to worry i'm only 22 so i've got a long time to put my life in order.... but still I want something now hehe.

thanks for the help so far.

 

[GuyJD]

Go to www.mta.net
This is where I work. No, I'm not recommending that you become a bus driver or even work in maintenance. But that website has lots of different jobs of different fields in the company.
Good luck, Fly.

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

thanks GuyJD, but i'm not aloud to work there.

I can only workin ontario and the serounding area
so only place int he use i can work is places like michagin, new york and other places with the same weather and ground types.

or else i'd have to go to school again for another semester learning a whole new building code.

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

Bump before i go to bed,

in hope the night people have some ideas to add

 

[Cheyenne]

Last year i was forced to quit my job at chryslers, cause I can't do that kind of work anymore.
since then (it will be 14 months in 2 days) i've been looking for a new job to no avail (i'm looking for something in my field). for a year everyday i wake up and look online on the job search engins from 9am till 12 pm, then i take a brake. (that's over 40 or so searches that are just like newspaper adds) then come night I look in the newspapper, then online for newspapers in serounding citys.

I belong to 8 employment agencies now, none of which are any damn help.

I've been there, too. You are missing a huge part of job hunting by limiting yourself to looking online and in newspapers. Many job openings are filled by word of mouth, not by an ad in the newspapers. Or by recruiters (headhunters) if at a high enough level. Every job I've ever had has come from a source other than the newspaper or online job ads. All have come from networking.

You need to get out there and talk to people to find out about any jobs that may be open BEFORE they hit the newspapers. Networking isn't necessarily asking people if they know about any job openings for you, either. Networking often is getting the names of 3 or 4 more people to network with, or feedback help on your resume, etc. Get a good book about job hunting/networking and start there.

Job hunting needs to be an 8 hour a day job- your job right now IS to FIND a job.

Are there job hunting support groups in your area where you can meet with fellow hunters? Join one. These groups are great for getting leads to potential job openings as well as for support.

Good luck!

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

Yah I know that I have to get out there too to look. But one of the reasons I'm impatent for a job is It will be an excuse to get out of my house I pretty much rarly get to leave.

But I'll take the networking Idea and see what I can do with it.
could you explain it to me a bit more?

I"m not sure if there are Job Hunting places around here, unless those are the same as Job Employment agencies. companys come to them and say i need someone with these qualifications by this afternoon, or by tomarrow etc... that agencie looks though the profiles for someone that fits and sends them over.

 

[YogiBare]

Fly

Do you have a recent copy of What Color is Your Parachute? There are great job-hunting ideas in it. One of the best ones (that I remember) is to set up informational interviews with People who make employment decision at companies for whom you would like to work.

Very often universities have alumni groups in various cities that can be used for job hunting and networking. Check out whether your school has them in any places in which you would like to work.

Good luck, Fly!

 

[Willing and Unsure]

here's just a suggestion... go to the university you graduated from, and apply to be a TA or a course tutor... you'll more than likely get some form of offer and get to work with other people, plus make something for it. granted, it may not be the best pay, but something is better than nothing

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

yogi willing sounds like you have the same ideas but... tryed it
I'm begining to think there is nothing i haven't tryed lol

I"m determaned on this.
I went to college we don't have TA's there and the tutoring jobs are 3rd year students teach 1st year so that's not opened for me.
and My allumni association i've already contacted. they had very little to help, but have my name down if anyting comes up, i think i'm going to contact them again

 

[Guest]

Well Fly_on_wall,
I've been in your shoes a couple of times in the last 20 years and have always resolved it sucessfully. Looking for work is hard work.
You cannot send out 100 resumes and then sit back waiting for someone to call.

Most job openings are filled in house. The newspaper classifieds represent about 30 percent of job openings at any given time.

Start by defining your talents, skills, personality and anything else that would make an employer interested in you.

Contact your local Chamber of Commerce. They usually have a list of occupations in your area and the firms who employ people in those occupations. If you don't have a good local Library, drive to the nearest big city and find one. The Library is a great source of information. Look for trade journals, magazines, or business weeklys for information on companies that would use your talents. These publications are not found at the drug store or news stands.

Make a list of companies that interest you. It doesn't matter if they're hiring. Use the Library or the internet to look up each company. Get the names of the people who would manage or oversee the department in which you wish to apply. Never send an application to Human Resources. Their job is to screen all applications.

Create a good Resume and cover letter. Resumes should be one page in length. Most people haven't time to wade through multiple pages and don't even bother. They're just tossed. Get aa Resume service to help you if you don't feel your able to do a polished job. The cover letter and your Resume is you ticket in. I can't stress the importance of these two documents.

Send the Cover letter and Resume to a dept. manager or VP over the area you wish to work in. Again it doesn't matter if they are hiring or not.

I used a file card system to keep track of each Resume I mailed. Four days after I mailed the Resume, I telephoned the person I sent it to and just confirmed they had received it. I mentioned I was interested in their company and was looking forward to his call. If he says he hasn't seen the resume, I note my file card to call back in two days. If I'm told they're not hiring, I ask when they foresee expansion or opportunity and again mark my file card for follow up. I would have twenty to thirty Resumes out there and I would maintain a file card on each. If your told he plans to review the resumes and make a hiring decision on Friday, call back Friday afternoon and express interest in the job. Say you were away from your phone and were afraid you had missed his call.

When you do get an interview it's important to again visit the Library and get some background on the company. Job applicants rarely take the trouble and the interviewer will be impressed when you show knowledge about the company's projects and what they do .

Anyway.... Didn't intend to get so long winded. I hope this helps. I have been with my present employer for 5-1/2 years. When I applied, they weren't hiring. But after three conversations with the VP of operations, I learned they had been toying over the past six months with the idea of creating a new position to resolve some problems they were having. It just so happened my qualifications were what they would need. I got the job.

Good Luck...

Portal65

 

[modest mouse]

Fly,
Alot of the advice above is very good and more helpful than what I can offer. Having said that...have you considered just grabbing a part-time job to give you something to do? Put a little money in your pocket and break up your daily routine. Retail is always looking for employees this time of yesr. Maybe working a few days a week in a music store or book store. I know its not what you want to do long term but it might kill some of the tedium.

take care Fly,

modest mouse

 

[darrenfate]

Fly,

What exactly is an "architectural technologist"? I have several regional ideas for you that you haven't tried.

The Chamber idea is a great one, just across the river from you on the water at 1 Woodward avenue is the second largest chamber of commerce in the USA, 18,000 members businesses.

http://www.detroitchamber.com . They are having their large quarterly mixer November 15th where everyone goes to mingle and "connect".

http://www.detroitchamber.com/pages/events/general_events.asp?id=29#event

Before you show up, check out their member's page and get a list of the firms that you could work for (they have a decent Canadien member list as well). Then hit 'em hard, no bull, they are there to meet people.

Finally, for other ideas of who the hiring firms are, hit this b2b site www.epaconline.com. Register free as a supplier, and hit the "Suppliers Marketplace" and see who the players are in the region.

Good luck!!

Darren

 

[sexy-girl]

fly ... spec letters ... and cold calling thats most importent thing in seeking work

make a list of companys that you think you'd beable to work for and just phone them and ask them if they have any jobs suitable for someone with your skills ... be sure to sell yourself


if your not comfortable on the phone send out letters as many as you can afford to send ... i knew someone that sent out 200 in one day ... you write one letter and print it out however many times you need too and send it too all the companys

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

Thanks everyone, I'll try to use your ideas best i can. My bigest problem right now is geting around that's why i've been doing most things fromt he net phone and newspapper. I don't drive and am still haveing trouble walking. but getting my licence soon.

Darren an architectural technologist is basicly .... well the architect makes the original design and takes the prise or heat if it's good or bad, the technologists are the people that do the actual work, I have tomake sure the building is proper and won't fall down if it needs extra suport bring that up to him to alter the original design, then do most of the drawing for it. yes some times the technologest gets in on the design, but i have a variaty of knowledge so i could also do renderings and presentations, walkthroughs models etc... but most technologists are the people that do all the work and aren't recognised

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

Damit... I feel like giveing up. I"ve tryed all the sugestions here that I could. still comeing up dry. Looked throught he phone book for companys... found only one that i could write to. so eather the other firms ar not listed, or are under some other area in the book.... I'm still looking though. But I just want to lay down give up and forget all about the world around me... goddamn bank is calling me now, i have to pay back my loan.... I could pay it back in full and then only have a few thousand left to live on for the next few months... or i can pay monthly and get shit loads of interest in there and take 14 years to pay it off... 14 fucking years???? that's what they said.
I want a job NOW. I could give up and go for a retail job... but hell i can't even do that.
This rant has been brought to you by me and don't worry, we all know I'll never give up. I haven't yet on anything ever, so I sure as hell won't on something this important No matter how much I think about it.

 

[BlondGirl]

Stop limiting yourself to your surrounding area--a 3-6 month job in another area would get you needed experience and pay--look at it like a semester away at school as far as the leaving home syndrom goes.
(I understant that there are various circumstances that apply--but the bottom line is still the bottom line.)

 

[Renegade]

Fly_On_Wall

Can't add anything that hasn't already been said, so just wanted to wish you the best of luck. Oh, and pick me up a job too while you're out there? Thanks.