Keeping with the Times

[ElectricBlue]

Mine too. She was over 50 in the last Bond movie and OMG.

That's another element of keeping up with the times, or maybe not needing to: There's a rapidly growing element of porn and erotica involving older people. That market is exploding. Authors of erotica don't necessarily need to cater to the tastes and habits of 20-somethings.

Certainly not in a world where Monica Belluci still exists.

Someone commented they pictured Monica Belluci when they read my Ruby character - not my deliberate pick, but pretty much nailed it.

 

[LAHomedog]

In the sitcom MOM, Allyson Janney's character becomes obsessed with tat's after her and her husband get small tat's in private places. She decides she wants her face put on her back. When she is there, a woman about 70years old is getting a touch up on her lower back. Above the touch up is her face, wrinkled, aged, and matching her face.

Janney asked why she hadn't gotten the tattoo put on like she looked when she in her twenties. The woman said, "I got it in my twenties, the older I get the older it gets."

Needless to day, Janney decided one tat was enough.

She shops in our neighborhood Whole Foods. I see her there all the time. Nice lady. Very talented actor.

 

[IndianaStevenJones]

There is a gallery from Blacked of her posted to another site in Dec. 2015. She either did not have the tattoo on her hip, or they meticulously shopped it out in a lot of photos. They hide her right shoulder in every shot, so it's hard to say for sure, but I think the shoulder tattoo is there.

This is actually my favorite photo of Elsa. Her ass is perfect.

 

[Seadog777]

This is actually my favorite photo of Elsa. Her ass is perfect.

God Bless America

 

[Smuttyandfun]

Talking about tattoos, I was visiting friends this summer who have 'kids' in their teens and early twenties. Last time I'd seen them, they were cute little things. But now they were all covered head to toe in ink. I wondered if they found a sale on 'full body tatting' somewhere. I just hope someone told them if they ever change their minds, that that stuffs a bitch to have removed, especially when it's covering almost every inch of your skin.

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

I think the "prudishness" being spoken about here is probably an effect of cancel culture and the fear of offense.

It's that very human struggle between biology -- especially those ancient neural pathways that were relevant in our hunter-gather days, against the societal pressure to both conform and assert a badge of uniqueness, that is causing confusion about how to approach sex in young people.

The pendulum has (temporarily) switched to pessimism about the future of humankind, and has reduced the urge to procreate.

The commoditization of sex has not helped, with "customer-led" perversions and influencer-guided attitudes.

I have four kids, two of whom are in same-sex relationships. Yet statistically (in the U.K., where I'm currently living), only a very small percentage of people in a national poll of over-sixteens declared themselves as gay (less than one percent, with seven percent preferring not to answer).

I think that young people are sadly confused about actual, physical sex, and not sure how to approach it. On the one hand they see it as expected of them, and of course have urges, but, like most of their actions, they are more concerned about how their stance will be perceived by their peers and the wider world.

 

[MrPixel]

... But now they were all covered head to toe in ink. I wondered if they found a sale on 'full body tatting' somewhere. ...

I read an article many years ago about Japanese street gangs and the full-body tattoos that were part of that culture. Apparently as they aged it was noted there was an identifiable cluster of atypical issues with organ failure. IIRC it was liver, spleen and related systems. I don't recall if the study outlined the root cause, but it was suggested that the wall-to-wall tattoos interfered with sweating and therefore the release of accumulated salts, etc., that particular body function performed.

It makes me wonder if there's going to be an observable issue resulting from the tattoo fad in modern Western culture. Maybe high-tech synthetic inks will have changed the cause:effect and there won't be a problem for these folks.

 

[Smuttyandfun]

I read an article many years ago about Japanese street gangs and the full-body tattoos that were part of that culture. Apparently as they aged it was noted there was an identifiable cluster of atypical issues with organ failure. IIRC it was liver, spleen and related systems. I don't recall if the study outlined the root cause, but it was suggested that the wall-to-wall tattoos interfered with sweating and therefore the release of accumulated salts, etc., that particular body function performed.

It makes me wonder if there's going to be an observable issue resulting from the tattoo fad in modern Western culture. Maybe high-tech synthetic inks will have changed the cause:effect and there won't be a problem for these folks.

My mother told me that back in the day only sailors and bikers got tattoos, now everyone from kids to grannies are getting tatted. I think you're right, it'll be interesting to see if any medical issues are discovered down the road.

A friend of mine has a daughter who is immunocompromised. As soon as she was old enough she went and got a tattoo on her back with an image she'd always liked. The next time she saw her oncologist, he was really upset and told her that people with conditions like hers should never consider getting tatted. Apparently, quite a few things can happen, including allergic reactions to the different inks. Skin infections can develop too, that would be harder to fight for someone in her situation. Blood borne diseases can happen to anyone, if the establishment or tattoo artist doesn't follow strict hygiene practices. And a blood borne disease can prove fatal to someone who's immune system is not too healthy. Just some food for thought. Though, I doubt the tattoo trend is going to change any time soon.

 

[grey228]

My mother told me that back in the day only sailors and bikers got tattoos, now everyone from kids to grannies are getting tatted. I think you're right, it'll be interesting to see if any medical issues are discovered down the road.

A friend of mine has a daughter who is immunocompromised. As soon as she was old enough she went and got a tattoo on her back with an image she'd always liked. The next time she saw her oncologist, he was really upset and told her that people with conditions like hers should never consider getting tatted. Apparently, quite a few things can happen, including allergic reactions to the different inks. Skin infections can develop too, that would be harder to fight for someone in her situation. Blood borne diseases can happen to anyone, if the establishment or tattoo artist doesn't follow strict hygiene practices. And a blood borne disease can prove fatal to someone who's immune system is not too healthy. Just some food for thought. Though, I doubt the tattoo trend is going to change any time soon.

In the old days, death was nature's way of resetting "problems". It will come again. Soon.

 

[gunhilltrain]

In the old days, death was nature's way of resetting "problems". It will come again. Soon.

It's good to meet another curmudgeon on here (I'm now becoming one, I think). Anyway, my daughter (age 31) hates tattoos because her late step-father (well, the guy after me) was a biker and he did have tattoos. And he wasn't well-liked by her, although she hid it pretty well. But he's been gone for eleven years now and I'm still here.

 

[MillieDynamite]

It's good to meet another curmudgeon on here (I'm now becoming one, I think). Anyway, my daughter (age 31) hates tattoos because her late step-father (well, the guy after me) was a biker and he did have tattoos. And he wasn't well-liked by her, although she hid it pretty well. But he's been gone for eleven years now and I'm still here.

Way to stick in there. My adoptive sister has always walked a tightrope between Pops and her mother's current whatever (husbands, boyfriends, undefined person in her life) because her mom is the kind that demands you call her lover this or that, and at least act like the soon and moon rotate around her current lover. My brother and sister were already out on their own when I came into the family.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Way to stick in there. My adoptive sister has always walked a tightrope between Pops and her mother's current whatever (husbands, boyfriends, undefined person in her life) because her mom is the kind that demands you call her lover this or that, and at least act like the soon and moon rotate around her current lover. My brother and sister were already out on their own when I came into the family.

Some thread drift here, but I didn't hold a grudge against the guy. He could be quite funny but he could be overbearing too. He did finally marry my ex. But medical problems caught up with him and he "passed to the other side" (wherever that is).

He was a mechanic and he could build or fix anything, but he had no sense of money management at all. A perfect fit for my ex, because she also had no financial sense. They bought a house and then declared bankruptcy a year later. That's a good example of how they operated.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Some thread drift here, but I didn't hold a grudge against the guy. He could be quite funny but he could be overbearing too. He did finally marry my ex. But medical problems caught up with him and he "passed to the other side" (wherever that is).

He was a mechanic and he could build or fix anything, but he had no sense of money management at all. A perfect fit for my ex, because she also had no financial sense. They bought a house and then declared bankruptcy a year later. That's a good example of how they operated.

Thread drift is the natural order of things in this forum And nothing wrong with it usually. Yeah, well I don't judge sis's mom, but I'm glad she isn't my mum. Dad finally got it right when he married my mum.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Tattoos are also much more easily-and affordably removed these days than in the past.

I don't judge anyone for what they do to their body, its theirs, not mine. The only thing I find myself wondering what they're thinking and long term is the people who put those huge gages in their ears so that their earlobes are just dangling with huge holes in them when they take them out....not sure how that will be long term, but I default back to its them, not me.

How will this look when I'm 80? Don't know, and don't care.

Made a good conversation piece at a pool party with a lot of my wife's older Italian and very Catholic family in attendance.

Do you really have that? Well, I don't think you can remove it, so you'll have it at eighty (assuming you make that age, and do not make that assumption!). I'm just guessing: is that Cthulhu?

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

so you'll have it at eighty

That is the one, and only reason I never got a tat. I'm not who I was yesterday, and I won't be what I am today, tomorrow. Transience is the only unchanging aspect of my life.

 

[Djmac1031]

I'm a middle aged straight white male, so my stories tend to come from that point of view.

That said, I consider myself open minded and modern. So I try to incorporate that thinking.

My male characters are accepting of women expressing themselves sexually, being independent and respectful of their thoughts, feelings and opinions.

They're also not homophobes, or sexist. And they understand the idea of consent and never try to force themselves on someone or pressure them into something.

While I have tried to incorporate modern lingo into my stories with younger characters, I do so sparingly, because I don't want it to sound forced or worse, like an old guy trying desperately to SOUND young lol.

I figure my audience is, mostly, guys much like me.

If younger readers are reading my stuff, my hopes are that they understand that it's told from an older person's perspective.

In the end, I can't really worry about that stuff too much.

I write my stories, my way. People will like them, or not.

 

[nice90sguy]

middle aged straight white make

of human, I assume.

 

[Djmac1031]

of human, I assume.

Lol. Damn typos. I meant "male," obviously.

 

[Britva415]

I think the "prudishness" being spoken about here is probably an effect of cancel culture

Interesting. I think it's a causal primary characteristic of cancel culture, not a side effect.

 

[Britva415]

Interesting. I think it's a primary characteristic of cancel culture, not a side effect.

On the other hand, I also think "cancel culture" is a complete and total hoax, to the extent that the people who use that phrase deny that anybody deserves "canceling".

They're in the same category as people who use the expressions"woke," "social justice warrior," and "antifa" - using those expressions basically is the same as coming right out and saying you're for ignorance and injustice and fascism.

We're canceling the right people.

 

[nice90sguy]

"Cancel Culture" is a pejorative term for fear of litigation.

It's kind of the inalienable right of the individual to get all upset when other people don't like them.

 

[lovecraft68]

Do you really have that? Well, I don't think you can remove it, so you'll have it at eighty (assuming you make that age, and do not make that assumption!). I'm just guessing: is that Cthulhu?

That's a version of a Baphomet by tattoo artist Paul Booth. He didn't do the work, its just his design. To get him its thousands of dollars and there's a chance you could die while on the waiting list. The Lovecraft across the shoulders is a few years older.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I read an article many years ago about Japanese street gangs and the full-body tattoos that were part of that culture. Apparently as they aged it was noted there was an identifiable cluster of atypical issues with organ failure. IIRC it was liver, spleen and related systems. I don't recall if the study outlined the root cause, but it was suggested that the wall-to-wall tattoos interfered with sweating and therefore the release of accumulated salts, etc., that particular body function performed.

There's a simpler explanation. Reusing tattoo equipment without sterilisation is a great way to transmit hepatitis B and C. I understand that injecting meth use is common among yakuza, and sharing IV drug needles is another major transmission risk. Take two infections that are already pretty good at fucking up your liver, then add in the effects of a heavy drinking/smoking culture, and liver failures are going to be a problem no matter what inks are used.

It makes me wonder if there's going to be an observable issue resulting from the tattoo fad in modern Western culture. Maybe high-tech synthetic inks will have changed the cause:effect and there won't be a problem for these folks.

That, but also the shift to sterile technique with autoclaving/single-use equipment.

 

[Bramblethorn]

How will this look when I'm 80? Don't know, and don't care.

Anybody who's hoping to get by on their looks at 80 probably has bigger things to worry about than tattoos.

 

[Dr_Strabismus]

Forget 80: Supposing that becomes the logo for some ultra homophobic far-right group? It was bad enough for the Buddhists when the Nazis commandeered the Swastika.