Labels to the extreme?

[SweetErika]

I just read this article: http://www.biwebsites.com/article2.html and was shocked about the number of classifications/labels for sexuality. I know we like to classify, but is this extreme?

 

[geishaGirl]

I do think that article does list an awful lot of "types" of bisexuals! I didn't realise there were "so many".......

 

[UnderMyKilt]

I just read this article: http://www.biwebsites.com/article2.html and was shocked about the number of classifications/labels for sexuality. I know we like to classify, but is this extreme?

I've seen this article before. In fact, I posted much of it in one of the RedClouds forums when someone was being particularly denegrating to bisexuals.

It does seem like an awful lot of classifications, but then there are many shades of gray.

 

[LadyTemptress]

I don't like labels. Everytime I give myself one I seem to go and change it.

 

[tomboy58]

classification Crazy...

I thought this article was kind of funny in the ironic way.
As you said - it shows the human need to place things into little pockets. But why So.. many.
It seemed like really it was nitpicking general groups into little tiny groups. Because I thought Many of them could fall under a total of maybe three of the categories (if you had to group them) such as: Exploratory seemed to cover the motivational and recreational etc....

Cant we all just get along and just Be.... instead of worrying about who we are supposed to be

 

[SweetErika]

Re: classification Crazy...

I thought this article was kind of funny in the ironic way.
As you said - it shows the human need to place things into little pockets. But why So.. many.
It seemed like really it was nitpicking general groups into little tiny groups. Because I thought Many of them could fall under a total of maybe three of the categories (if you had to group them) such as: Exploratory seemed to cover the motivational and recreational etc....

Cant we all just get along and just Be.... instead of worrying about who we are supposed to be

Yes, it did seem funny to me too. I'm just baffled why someone thinks we need so many classifications.

 

[mystic_maiden32]

Re: Re: classification Crazy...

Yes, it did seem funny to me too. I'm just baffled why someone thinks we need so many classifications.

ditto

 

[tomboy58]

Why? dont know..

I guess people like to classify because maybe it gives them a sense of Explaining things, why we act or do things because we are....
I think putting things in classification pockets is a way of dealing with our fears and inhibitions too. Like labeling bi-sexual so many ways explains that this person only did it because they were under the influence Or because their spouse wanted them to.
I think people as a group are very afraid of relaxing and just being... we (as a human group) are always worrying about what the rest of the population thinks. The ultimate is to be confident with yourself (esteem and such) that you worry less and less about fitting or not fitting the groups.

Dont know.... doesnt make any sense to me. Too many subgroups and ways to group everything and everybody

Thank God we are all okay

 

[SweetErika]

Re: Why? dont know..

I guess people like to classify because maybe it gives them a sense of Explaining things, why we act or do things because we are....
I think putting things in classification pockets is a way of dealing with our fears and inhibitions too. Like labeling bi-sexual so many ways explains that this person only did it because they were under the influence Or because their spouse wanted them to.
I think people as a group are very afraid of relaxing and just being... we (as a human group) are always worrying about what the rest of the population thinks. The ultimate is to be confident with yourself (esteem and such) that you worry less and less about fitting or not fitting the groups.

Dont know.... doesnt make any sense to me. Too many subgroups and ways to group everything and everybody

Thank God we are all okay

Excellent points!

 

[CJontherocks]

As much as my understanding of my sexuality has grown/evolved over the past few years, I'm not sure I could keep up with the labels. I'd need to carry around a pocket refernce card!

Is that downloadable anywhere?

 

[Etoile]

I don't know that those are necessarily intended to be labels. When you're at a bar and somebody asks if you're bi, you're not going to say "yes, I've had a few drinks, and now I'm a recreational bisexual!" They are, however, useful descriptions of the types of people that are out there. One that isn't even on the list is the "down low" bisexual.

 

[CJontherocks]

I don't know that those are necessarily intended to be labels. When you're at a bar and somebody asks if you're bi, you're not going to say "yes, I've had a few drinks, and now I'm a recreational bisexual!" They are, however, useful descriptions of the types of people that are out there.

Oh my, I don't think I'm quite that far along at all. I'd probably say something like "mostly straight" (and only in certain circumstances).

I guess the one- or two-word terms do serve a purpose to simplify an otherwise long story. But if we're talking about segregating groups of people based on their sexuality, I disagree with using them. Taken to the extreme, would my classification change daily, depending on who I choose to have sex with or how?

One that isn't even on the list is the "down low" bisexual.

Ouch?

 

[au_man]

Funny, I don't "fit" the classifications?

My marrige is exclusive, though I do consider myself "Bi" yet there isn't a classification for persons that deny the urges due to relationship standards.

Kinsey wasn't a "scientist" from what I have read, so I don't find his conclusions valid.

Hmmmm... After a thought, I like the term "tri" sexual.... If it sound fun, I'd like to try it!

I have fantisies about Shemales, so is that really "Bi", "Gay"? or what???

Isn't it is enough that if it turns me on, it is sexual?

 

[CJontherocks]

I don't fit my pants after losing 30 lbs, but I still call 'em pants!

My marrige is exclusive, though I do consider myself "Bi" yet there isn't a classification for persons that deny the urges due to relationship standards.

I was thinking about that very thing today!

I have fantisies about Shemales, so is that really "Bi", "Gay"? or what???

Isn't it is enough that if it turns me on, it is sexual?

Although I disagree on principle with the classification or label deal, I cannot deny that I enjoy both males and females. I can live with it if that means bisexualityishness. But I reserve the right to define myself. And just plain "sexual" works for me. After much discussion (mostly with myself, and some here in this forum) I've finally come to the conclusion that there are too many other things to think about in life than what my label might be on any given day or circumstance. Besides, it's really not that much more effort, if anyone asks, for me to say "I love women, but I have enjoyed sex with men."

 

[jayded]

J.r Little

not to argue but it wasn't kinsey who wrote the labels it was
JR Little. Kinsey's scale is actually pretty approximate- completely gay, completely straight, or somewhere in between. Everyone can fall in there, however I do agree that JR little didnt know what he was talking about. Just because someone's had sexual experiences with the same gender doesn't make them bisexual per say, maybe just adventurous! PEACE LUV AND KISSES, J

 

[Etoile]

Re: J.r Little

not to argue but it wasn't kinsey who wrote the labels it was
JR Little. Kinsey's scale is actually pretty approximate- completely gay, completely straight, or somewhere in between. Everyone can fall in there, however I do agree that JR little didnt know what he was talking about. Just because someone's had sexual experiences with the same gender doesn't make them bisexual per say, maybe just adventurous! PEACE LUV AND KISSES, J

Kinsey's scale is too small, IMNSHO. Only six points leaves us all using decimals half the time.

 

[aarons_goddess2003]

Holy crap, that was way too much reading for me...and I do think that was a ridiculusly long list of describing the "different bisexuals". I mean I believe there is different levels of bisexuality...some people prefer the opposite sex more so than the same. And yet others like them both the same. But to label bisexuals like they are a freakin baskit case I think is totally biased. But thats what I think

 

[Etoile]

Holy crap, that was way too much reading for me...and I do think that was a ridiculusly long list of describing the "different bisexuals". I mean I believe there is different levels of bisexuality...some people prefer the opposite sex more so than the same. And yet others like them both the same. But to label bisexuals like they are a freakin baskit case I think is totally biased. But thats what I think

I don't think the article was meant to label bisexuals as mentally unstable "basket cases" ...I think it was just saying bisexuals are complex individuals.

 

[Etoile]

Now that I think about it, maybe the article is just trying to point out that if you gather 10 self declared bisexuals in a room, they're not going to all be exactly the same.

 

[CJontherocks]

Now that I think about it, maybe the article is just trying to point out that if you gather 10 self declared bisexuals in a room, they're not going to all be exactly the same.

But don't leave them alone for a minute!