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[impressive]

Damn, I was hoping for a new "Big Tits" catagory.

It's already there -- called "Fetish"

 

[cloudy]

I'm sorry Cloudy. I didn't follow that, honestly. Could you explain?

I was agreeing with you, hon.

If you look at the interracial category, it's all about black with white, or white with asian (those seem to be the two most popular combinations), but I agree, race is irrelevant. It just seems odd that if it's not a story about one of those two combinations, then it goes in EC.

You're right, I think it promotes bigotry and stereotypes, that's all.

 

[English Lady]

My hubby'd be in heaven if there was a redhead category

 

[neonlyte]

Don't think many stories here pursue the essential nature of 'taboo', within any catagory it might fall in. Now fetish, that's a whole different bunch of bananas.

Taboo also divides into personal and society constructs - one person's taboo may be acceptable to other peoples or societies.

For example: childbirth out of wedlock was, until recently, a society taboo. In Norway some 90% of first children are born out of wedlock.

 

[china-doll]

It's already there -- called "Fetish"

I try not to go in there to often. Some of those stories give me nightmares.

 

[logophile]

I was agreeing with you, hon.

If you look at the interracial category, it's all about black with white, or white with asian (those seem to be the two most popular combinations), but I agree, race is irrelevant. It just seems odd that if it's not a story about one of those two combinations, then it goes in EC.

You're right, I think it promotes bigotry and stereotypes, that's all.

Thanks Cloudy! Maybe last night's Ny-Quil is still hanging on!
By the way, I love your AV...

 

[cloudy]

Thanks Cloudy! Maybe last night's Ny-Quil is still hanging on!
By the way, I love your AV...

Thanks!

I thought it went well with the "retarded cannibal" title

 

[LadyJeanne]

I've read some of the stories in Interracial, but eventually gave up as I didn't really find what I was looking for in the category. The stories I read focus very much on the taboo aspect, as well as the stereotypes (big dick black man with tight-assed white bitch; insatiable black woman with wimpy white dick). Those don't really do it for me.

I was actually hoping to find some stories where the differences are expressively described (creamy white skin contrasting with darker, smokier tones; a sweep of blonde hair as it brushes along a caramel tummy; perhaps even a different aspect of lovemaking that I wasn't familiar with - no I don't mean Kerala women armpit hair, but kinda like that - am erotic view of a different culture).

I'm sure those stories are in there, somewhere...

 

[sweetnpetite]

I've read some of the stories in Interracial, but eventually gave up as I didn't really find what I was looking for in the category. The stories I read focus very much on the taboo aspect, as well as the stereotypes (big dick black man with tight-assed white bitch; insatiable black woman with wimpy white dick). Those don't really do it for me.

I was actually hoping to find some stories where the differences are expressively described (creamy white skin contrasting with darker, smokier tones; a sweep of blonde hair as it brushes along a caramel tummy; perhaps even a different aspect of lovemaking that I wasn't familiar with - no I don't mean Kerala women armpit hair, but kinda like that - am erotic view of a different culture).

I'm sure those stories are in there, somewhere...

they are there, but you've got to search for em.

Also, it wouldn't hurt if more people who wanted that kind of story posted that kind of story in the cat.

For once- I totally agree with the comments that Joe W. has made on the topic. I don't find anything wrong with the category itself, although I do find something wrong with plenty of the stories in it.

Personally, I'd love to see more variety in the inter-racial categorie. I'd love to read a story about a guy from Cosavo and a girl from Croatia- or whatever, as long as the story was engaging and diddn't assume too much previous knowledge. If people really think about it- there is a tremendous amount of potential in the Inter-racial category besides fetish. And yes, the inter-racial aspect could be a major cause for conflict- weather or not it should be. Also, I believe it's highly possible for an uplifting and non-racist method to come out of that category. All that's needed is for someone to write it- and not be afraid to post it there amidst the big black dicks and tight-assed white women

My point?-- I don't know but this threadhas gone off topic, hu?

 

[BlackShanglan]

I'll go back to the original question. I personally love both to read and to write "Letters and Transcripts," but it's got some limitations in practice. I love fragmented narratives and I think letters are a wonderful way to develop narrative character, but some posts there are really more transcripts of chat sessions or even at times what appear to be real actual letters to real people - alas, often "thin" to outside readers who lack the context and mutual understanding that the real recipients would have. I think this a category where the literal must be balanced very carefully with the imaginative, but when it works well it's quite good reading.

Shanglan

 

[cantdog]

I've read some of the stories in Interracial, but eventually gave up as I didn't really find what I was looking for in the category. The stories I read focus very much on the taboo aspect, as well as the stereotypes (big dick black man with tight-assed white bitch; insatiable black woman with wimpy white dick). Those don't really do it for me.

I was actually hoping to find some stories where the differences are expressively described (creamy white skin contrasting with darker, smokier tones; a sweep of blonde hair as it brushes along a caramel tummy; perhaps even a different aspect of lovemaking that I wasn't familiar with - no I don't mean Kerala women armpit hair, but kinda like that - am erotic view of a different culture).

I'm sure those stories are in there, somewhere...

I wrote one, because of the creeped out stereotypes you describe. It was an actual story about love. Not so much fucking, but love, as between a young new englander and a Haitian woman. I dealt with cultural differences, societal expectations, and emotional issues attending a beginning romance. The two were spending the night together for the first time. It was a sweet and romantic story.

It got poor response and short shrift in the voting, but it was written as a sort of non-category category story. The way you might write a Loving Wives story about wives who were loving. Just to show 'em.

 

[LadyJeanne]

I wrote one, because of the creeped out stereotypes you describe. It was an actual story about love. Not so much fucking, but love, as between a young new englander and a Haitian woman. I dealt with cultural differences, societal expectations, and emotional issues attending a beginning romance. The two were spending the night together for the first time. It was a sweet and romantic story.

It got poor response and short shrift in the voting, but it was written as a sort of non-category category story. The way you might write a Loving Wives story about wives who were loving. Just to show 'em.

I see it, Jip, Ch. 2. I'm bookmarking it for when I feel like reading about love (or sex) again. Thanks.

 

[cantdog]

I hope you do like it. It seems long ago now that I wrote it, but the date is quite recent, really. In fact, it seems amazing to me that I have been here, by the calendar, only a short time. So much was packed into those months, I guess.

 

[Huckleman2000]

I wrote one, because of the creeped out stereotypes you describe. It was an actual story about love. Not so much fucking, but love, as between a young new englander and a Haitian woman. I dealt with cultural differences, societal expectations, and emotional issues attending a beginning romance. The two were spending the night together for the first time. It was a sweet and romantic story.

It got poor response and short shrift in the voting, but it was written as a sort of non-category category story. The way you might write a Loving Wives story about wives who were loving. Just to show 'em.

What you needed was a Rogers and Hammerstein score and the backdrop of WWII to give it the proper, erm, heft. Bali Hai, may call you....

I don't object to the "Interracial" tag - I have fantasies about Asian women and Black women, and the (typical) physical features of those races play an integral role. Is that racist? If so, are my redhead fantasies racist too? Have you read 'Soul on Ice'? Seen 'Jungle Fever'? This isn't a genre without a large mainstream oeuvre.

The incest thing just creeps me out, though, unless they're about step-relations. Then I see it more like "roommates gone wild" - but I've never actually had to live in a blended family situation. But if it worked for the Brady Bunch...

 

[Softouch911]

So, since most folk seem to think the Incest section is "creepy" and, maybe, is popular because it has lots of EC stories with names changed to "Sis" etc., I'm wondering why you experienced folk think the category is so popular.

I know I had the same reaction to the TAboo movie series (numbers I-MCMXI by now probably) because, in that case, the "actors" didn't even bear a family resemblance -- you really had to work your imagination to believe anyone in the flicks was even remotely 3rd cousin related. The first one was maybe the best, and it too had actors cast for reasons entirely unrelated to physical similarities, iirc.


What's the fascination with writing an EC story and dropping in family names? And would folk who read in Incest go to EC do you think if the Incest category disappeared? Or what?

Softie -- who rarely brings pressing issues up

 

[cantdog]

Well I wrote for the category. Tens of thousands of reads and hundreds of votes, outstripping any story I ever wrote in any other cat. That's what makes me say it's popular. The story Ideas board is full of readers' Stories I'd Love To See. Some are bestiality, some are kiddie porn, some are celebrity stories, but most are incest.

There's just a large, enthusiastic, opinionated reader base in the cat.

 

[Softouch911]

Well I wrote for the category. Tens of thousands of reads and hundreds of votes, outstripping any story I ever wrote in any other cat. That's what makes me say it's popular. The story Ideas board is full of readers' Stories I'd Love To See. Some are bestiality, some are kiddie porn, some are celebrity stories, but most are incest.

There's just a large, enthusiastic, opinionated reader base in the cat.

Yep. Just wondering why if, as many folk seem to say, it's all just EC with relatives. Your opinion?

Softie

 

[cantdog]

You could write it that way, but only if you want to skip motivation entirely. The regular readers in the category have some serious expectations of you, too. What it's supposed to be the most like is pedophilia disguised as E.C. by lying about the ages. They want a smarmy seduction, playing on the younger one's fears and nobilities, in the manner of a pedophilic seduction, but then they want the victim-character to decide they love it. Force is a bad element to introduce, and they (the readers) seem to want the victim-character to become pregnant, as well, some of them, anyway. They give you lots of guidance in feedbacks, and even in PCs. There's a catechism of definite expectations. I think changing a name to Sis or Daddy wouldn't have the same effect.

Loving Wives is even more formulaic, and they get really indignant if you have deviated.

 

[Softouch911]

You could write it that way, but only if you want to skip motivation entirely. The regular readers in the category have some serious expectations of you, too. What it's supposed to be the most like is pedophilia disguised as E.C. by lying about the ages. They want a smarmy seduction, playing on the younger one's fears and nobilities, in the manner of a pedophilic seduction, but then they want the victim-character to decide they love it. Force is a bad element to introduce, and they (the readers) seem to want the victim-character to become pregnant, as well, some of them, anyway. They give you lots of guidance in feedbacks, and even in PCs. There's a catechism of definite expectations. I think changing a name to Sis or Daddy wouldn't have the same effect.

Loving Wives is even more formulaic, and they get really indignant if you have deviated.

That's great! I knew there was a formula in there but didn't realize the particulars were so specific: age factor/victim idealism; seduction/lust conversion; often pregnancy.

Let me take a stab from the LW formula and see if it's right: eager husband, reluctant wife; wife converts to total lust and nymphomania; husband discovers rush from humiliation.

Right? Anything else?

Softie -- liking equations

 

[cantdog]

That's one mode, for sure. The extravagantly humiliated cuckolded husband.

But there's a competing formula and a lot of real enthusiasm behind it.

 

[cantdog]

Loving Wives cat

a discussion

 

[Softouch911]

Thanks, that's a great thread -- appreciate the education.

Softie -- still learnin' after all these years