Lesbian Q and A

[Vail_Indigo]

I have a friend who says that marriage sucks, gays shouldn't WANT to get married, etc. (He went through a bitter divorce, so that doesn't help his perspective.) He didn't want to listen to arguments about the 1,138 federal benefits denied to same-sex couples, he just said that marriage was terrible and awful. It really pissed me off that he couldn't understand why some people WANT to get married even though they CAN'T.

Personally, I think that marriage and government should have nothing to do with each other. The government should only endorse/enforce civil unions. A marriage would be a personal or religious vow along side the legal contract of a civil union.

Pretty romantic, ain't i?

 

[curiouslez84]

*Swoons.*

Yes. You are.

But seriously. You're right. But think about it: hasn't the government ALWAYS interfered with church? Think about it: missionaries in the 19th century, were always sent by the U. S. government. The Catholic church is a major part of several different natianal governments, and just look at the Pope (although he basically has his own government, but look at the people behind the people that raise him up or whatever).

Just some thoughts.

But yeah, I agree: one shouldn't have anything at all to do with the other.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

*Swoons.*

Yes. You are.

But seriously. You're right. But think about it: hasn't the government ALWAYS interfered with church? Think about it: missionaries in the 19th century, were always sent by the U. S. government. The Catholic church is a major part of several different natianal governments, and just look at the Pope (although he basically has his own government, but look at the people behind the people that raise him up or whatever).

Just some thoughts.

But yeah, I agree: one shouldn't have anything at all to do with the other.

well, I'm talking strictly about the US government.
The separation of church and state doctrine, though implied in the constitution, isn't explicitly stated, and so it has evolved over time, more and more as the religious body of america has become more and more diverse. Many of the issues that come up today are th9ings that, in the 19th century, just wouldn't have occured to people. I mean...I'd bet that over 95% of all people in america in 1850 were judeo-christian.

And remember, most countries don't have such a concept, so it isn't surprising when, say, the catholic church has power there.

With any luck, within our lifetimes, religion will become a private thing, and not interfere with how the country works.

 

[curiouslez84]

LMAO Yeah, and Schwarzeneggar will someday rule the world. But yeah...it's a nice thought. Personally, I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing I'll burn in hell.

 

[sally_ja_hawkins]

You could always move to the UK - we have civil partnerships here!

 

[curiouslez84]

I would, but I don't think we'd be able to understand anyone there. Apparently, there are a lot of different phrases that are so totally different from here...

 

[Etoile]

I would, but I don't think we'd be able to understand anyone there. Apparently, there are a lot of different phrases that are so totally different from here...

They DO speak English in the UK, you know...

 

[curiouslez84]

Yes...but I don't think I'd ever get used to saying bloody hell instead of fuck you. LOL

 

[Louise_Loves]

1 - The scent of arousal.

2 - bitchiness

3 - hitting on me/thinking I'm weak or stupid

4 - I was married for the worst three years of my life

5 - Being comfortable with who I love and am attracted to

6 - Having to hide my affection for my lover in public

7 - Not going to happen. Biological problems.

8 - Not an inch. Like every other kind of relationship, you are either meant for each other or not. Faking it is not worth it.

9 - In life? God, who knows?

10 - I don't watch much TV or watch movies.

LL

1. What turns you on the most about other women?

2. What turns you off the most about them?

3. What turns you off the most about men?

4. Have you or would you ever have a straight sexual experience/romance with a man?

Why or why not?

5. What would you say is the best thing about being a lesbian?

6. What is the worst?

7. If a man ever got you preggers.....? Pm me to answer this

8. How far would you go to make a straight woman you were interested in a lesbian?

9. Who do you believe has a easier time in life and why? A lesbian woman or a straight one?

10. Do you believe Hollywood protrays an accurate picture of today's lesbian woman?

 

[sally_ja_hawkins]

Yes...but I don't think I'd ever get used to saying bloody hell instead of fuck you. LOL

Er...we say 'fuck you' too! We're not all straight out of a period drama over here, you know!

 

[lilsub4u]

*Swoons.*

Yes. You are.

But seriously. You're right. But think about it: hasn't the government ALWAYS interfered with church? Think about it: missionaries in the 19th century, were always sent by the U. S. government. The Catholic church is a major part of several different natianal governments, and just look at the Pope (although he basically has his own government, but look at the people behind the people that raise him up or whatever).

Just some thoughts.

But yeah, I agree: one shouldn't have anything at all to do with the other.

I think you've confused the State interfering with the Church with the Church interfering with the State. AND no, I don't think they are the same thing at all.

No, the seperation of Church and State in this country is not explicitely stated in any formal document, but it is not only implied but has been upheld by the USSC in several instances.

What bothers me the most has been how the "Religious-Right" (which is neither in my book) has so successfully confused "Legal Marriage" with "Holy Matrimony" and how so many citizens have taken that bait, Hook, line and sinker. That just shows me how we've learned to accept mediocrity more so in the past couple of decades that ever before.
When we've gone from a nation who knew all too well, but really didn't want to hear about our Presidents who ALL had affairs, so a nation who all too willingly Censures a President because of an investigation gone too far then we allow our USSC to determine who our President is for us...that shows how we've slipped as a nation. How we have simply become so complaiscent that we've allowed pure bullies to take over.

Come on, here we are in 2007 and there are still states which do not protect the rights of all their residents in matters of employment, housing and even temporary loggings? In this day and age and we still have to argue for basic human dignity for one specif group of people because the majority has allowed descrimination to become policy?
When did the Constitution get re-written and no one noticed? Didn't our Declaration of Independence say: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."

Since when did that get changed to "...that all men, with exception to gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgenders, queer and questioning, those who are living below the poverty level, those who cannot speak for themselves, those who are disabled, those who don't speak English and anyone else we deem as "unworthy" at the time: are created equal..."

I don't know about anyone else here, but I find this beyond insulting.

 

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(My computer screwed this post up!)

 

[Etoile]

(My computer is seriously messed up, more later!)

 

[sally_ja_hawkins]

May I lighten the tone? To answer the original questions, then, just for fun...

1. What turns you on the most about other women?

Sense of humour, air of naughtiness.

2. What turns you off the most about them?

Bitchiness, mean-ness.

3. What turns you off the most about men?

They're smelly.

4. Have you or would you ever have a straight sexual experience/romance with a man?

Why or why not?

Can't envisage any circumstances - they leave me completely cold in those senses.

5. What would you say is the best thing about being a lesbian?

Can't imagine there's a remotely serious genuine answer to that...I suppose, being able as a woman not to have to spend £250 on a handbag to avoid losing face publicly.

6. What is the worst?

Spending too much time in the sole company of women.

7. If a man ever got you preggers.....? Pm me to answer this

Depends on circumstances...I probably have some maternal instinct somewhere.

8. How far would you go to make a straight woman you were interested in a lesbian?

None at all, in the same way I don't try and convert orange juice into red wine.

9. Who do you believe has a easier time in life and why? A lesbian woman or a straight one?

It's probably simpler being straight, but I'm wary of lesbians overly stressing this view of the world.

10. Do you believe Hollywood protrays an accurate picture of today's lesbian woman?[/QUOTE]

Not really, no. We're more eccentric and less uniform than films suggest. But does Hollywood portray an accurate picture of cartoon rabbits, or spacemen, or spies?