Los Angeles stands up to ICE

[Politruk]

We will be doing more of our own labor, but in more humane amounts. Huge farms will fail and break up into smaller farms, so smallhold farmers can work their land and still be able to stand afterwards.

There is no reason at all to expect that to happen. The agribiz mechanized plantation model is more profitable.

 

[Politruk]

Your excuses are long past stale and also just plain bizarre. You are defending mass exploitation of immigrants for cheap backbreaking labor.

They do the same work they would at home, but they earn more money.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

 

[dmallord]

They destroy soil fertility, erode soil, deplete aquifers that needed millennia to fill, and depend on fossil fuel and imported chemical fertilizer. The corporate business model focused on immediate profit will wipe them out with long term consequences. Some currently farmed areas won't have farms for a long while until the soil recovers and the climate changes enough to put water there. The farms that survive will have farmers carefully tending their little plots with sustainable compost and conservation of all resources. That may include arrangements with nearby towns to take all their crap as fertilizer.

I started my life on small farms in Michigan. These single-family farms used fertilizer, rotated crops, and depended on fossil fuels for land and heat. Today's corporate farms seem to grasp this concept well and apply more science to land care than single-family farmers can.

However, climate change will be uncontrollable for both small and large farm concepts. Your take is that the industrial complex model will collapse, perhaps due to climate change, and survivors will have to reboot to the smaller plot concept of yesteryear. I get that dystopian viewpoint. Hopefully, we will adapt and devise better means of survival than that.

The government certainly isn't helping with its bailouts to farmers, large or small, who get paid not to grow the same crops year after year. It doesn't encourage adaptation to grow a different crop or use the land.

 

[Baztrachian]

Industrial farming will collapse due to its own unsustainable use of resources. Climate change may eventually heal most of the damage. The western US will be more desert for a few centuries, but may eventually become more tropical as a hotter earth moves more water up from the oceans.

Massive props here for understanding that a warmer climate is necessarily a wetter climate.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Is LA/CA still "standing up?" *chuckle*

 

[Politruk]

They destroy soil fertility, erode soil, deplete aquifers that needed millennia to fill, and depend on fossil fuel and imported chemical fertilizer.

We're not about to run short of either, are we?

 

[Politruk]

Is LA/CA still "standing up?" *chuckle*

It ain't knocked down.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Another Republican governor is desperate for attention, so he declared a “state of emergency” and mobilized the National Guard … and nothing is happening in his state.

Where does the Clown Show Party find all of these goofy clowns? JFC.

 

[Rebel5soul]

It ain't knocked down.

They lost..............fuck'em.

 

[Politruk]

They lost..............fuck'em.

ICE is not doing its thing unimpeded.

 

[butters]

Another Republican governor is desperate for attention, so he declared a “state of emergency” and mobilized the National Guard … and nothing is happening in his state.

Where does the Clown Show Party find all of these goofy clowns? JFC.

desperate for attention, aka trump's beatific smile bestowed upon him? or desperate to retain control of his state's resources, locking trump out of the equation?

 

[ChinoMoreno]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1205130517569400

 

[Lazaran]

An interesting report in “The Guardian” today:

California national guards troops and marines deployed to Los Angeles to help restore order after days of protest against the Trump administration have told friends and family members they are deeply unhappy about the assignment and worry their only meaningful role will be as pawns in a political battle they do not want to join.

Three different advocacy organisations representing military families said they had heard from dozens of affected service members who expressed discomfort about being drawn into a domestic policing operation outside their normal field of operations. The groups said they have heard no countervailing opinions.

“The sentiment across the board right now is that deploying military force against our own communities isn’t the kind of national security we signed up for,” said Sarah Streyder of the Secure Families Initiative, which represents the interests of military spouses, children and veterans.

“Families are scared not just for their loved ones’ safety, although that’s a big concern, but also for what their service is being used to justify.”

Chris Purdy of the Chamberlain Network, whose stated mission is to “mobilize and empower veterans to protect democracy”, said he had heard similar things from half a dozen national guard members. “Morale is not great, is the quote I keep hearing,” he said.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ll74]

They lost..............fuck'em.

The MAGA way

 

[Politruk]

ICE is not doing its thing unimpeded.

And that's all that matters here, isn't it?

 

[jomar]

Fortunately there are millions of Americans who are totally fed up with democrats flagrantly ignoring the will of the people. Trump was hired now let him do his job.

You are correct that millions of misguided people voted for trump. But more people voted against him than for him. So no mandate as he has claimed.

 

[Politruk]

No anarchist group has that kind of money.

And neither does anybody else who might have an interest in stirring up protests or riots.

 

[icanhelp1]

You are correct that millions of misguided people voted for trump. But more people voted against him than for him. So no mandate as he has claimed.

So in your delusional mind millions are misguided but you’re not. Got it

And yet he won the popular vote?

 

[jomar]

So in your delusional mind millions are misguided but you’re not. Got it

Not just me, but more than voted for your deity that is trump.

BTW, are you actually ok with what he is doing to our country? The isolationism, the authoritarianism, alienating allies, aligning with Putin, doing an indiscriminate slash and burn across government via DOGE which they’re having to unwind, having a multi-million dollar parade (DOGE?), sending in the military unnecessarily, creating higher “taxes” for people through his ill advised tariffs, trying to intimidate and silence universities/law firms/media who are critical of him, etc…

And yet he won the popular vote?

He did indeed, garnering less than 50% of voters votes.

 

[YDB95]

And yet he won the popular vote?

The same popular vote that people like you spent 2017-2021 reminding anyone who would listen was meaningless? Why yes.

 

[Politruk]

Another option: keep the illegals and deport the American-born rioters. At worst, we break even.

Despite the flaming cars, there is not really any riot going on -- only protests.

1992, now, that's what a riot looks like.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Despite the flaming cars, there is not really any riot going on -- only protests.

1992, now, that's what a riot looks like.

J6 was a riot.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

ICE is now raiding playgrounds and snatching nannies taking care of children.

They also have the National Guard guarding the federal building on Wilshire which is over an hour away from the protests downtown.

 

[dmallord]

ICE is now raiding playgrounds and snatching nannies taking care of children.

They also have the National Guard guarding the federal building on Wilshire which is over an hour away from the protests downtown.

Guessing here, that is a pretext for having them close by in case they are needed where there is a 'hot spot of extremists' rioting and in need of an intervention.