Masculine submission

[Eloquent_Hedonist]

Supercollider: Yeah well at least it keeps the conversation going I guess. It's been quite good overall had some good back and forth. Thanks! Not too bad over here, the search continues and all that.

Erosfan: Yeah I understand that kind of dynamic. Maybe throw a little positive sexual objectification in there as well

 

[supercollider00]

Just don't feed the troll / crazy person.

Can we go back to male submissiveness now? I'm curious about something about other submissives. For those that aren't into sissification/feminization/cuckholding, how large of a role does humiliation play for you and how do you like it enforced? I really find the psychological aspect of D/s to be incredibly interesting and it's rarely shown if one is to look at most mainstream femdom pornography.

 

[MysteriousRyu]

^This, I think the mental aspect can't be brought up enough in what makes role-reversal and in this case masculine submission such a turn on for us guys.

 

[OlderBtm4U]

Just don't feed the troll / crazy person.

Can we go back to male submissiveness now? I'm curious about something about other submissives. For those that aren't into sissification/feminization/cuckholding, how large of a role does humiliation play for you and how do you like it enforced? I really find the psychological aspect of D/s to be incredibly interesting and it's rarely shown if one is to look at most mainstream femdom pornography.

Humiliation isn’t a part of what draws me to this.

 

[Erosfan]

Supercollider: Yeah well at least it keeps the conversation going I guess. It's been quite good overall had some good back and forth. Thanks! Not too bad over here, the search continues and all that.

Erosfan: Yeah I understand that kind of dynamic. Maybe throw a little positive sexual objectification in there as well

Yeah, "positive sexual objectification" can be a wonderful thing.

 

[AnnieLit]

(A switch here, so I do have experience playing with a male body.)

You are mixing together quite a lot of things here that may or may not be present in any one person:
- Feminization
- Masochism (not necessarily CBT either, for example it might be an interest only in spanking or only in nipple play)
- Love of anal play (men have a built in mechanism of enjoying it, so talking about "taking it for the domme" is a very strange way of thinking about it.)
- Body worshipping towards the Domme (or a Dom for that matter)
- General submission in the form of taking more passive role in the bedroom, i.e. she decides what, when, and how.

All this things can go together, but more often than not a person is interested only in one or two of these, at least at the start of the journey.

 

[TheNakedKnight]

Finally...a thread on a subject near and dear to my heart.

I am a man who enjoys practicing a masculine form of erotic and romantic submission. If there is interest, I will be happy to do a longer post about how this works between me and my wife. We're pretty far toward the vanilla end of the spectrum, but it might still be worthwhile for people to see how this dynamic plays out for one couple.

 

[Eloquent_Hedonist]

Finally...a thread on a subject near and dear to my heart.

I am a man who enjoys practicing a masculine form of erotic and romantic submission. If there is interest, I will be happy to do a longer post about how this works between me and my wife. We're pretty far toward the vanilla end of the spectrum, but it might still be worthwhile for people to see how this dynamic plays out for one couple.

Hi NakedKnight! Glad the thread resonates with you, feel free to post away!

EH

 

[sweettalk4u]

Nothing more erotic or arousing than developing a D/s relationship with a masculine sub. It is a gradual thing where good habits are formed as you go. Where the submission becomes a natural part of you as control is given and taken in different ways and varying degrees

 

[PaxNurgle]

There is something to be learned from every relationship, and every person. Many men go into female led relationships willingly with the intent to learn- to learn not just how to be a better lover, but perhaps to be a better person overall. Sometimes masculine submission isn't at all about whips, paddles, anal play, humiliation, body worship or any of those kinky things. Often times, it is just about learning how to really listen and grow as a person and as a partner.

 

[sweettalk4u]

Excellent thread. I have been on both sides over the years first as a submissive. I have always been dominant in real life and as a sub I learned a lot about dominance in the lifestyle. But I also did my best to be a good submissive once the roles became clear, the choice was made.
I think that is an exciting point in a D/s relationship between two masculine guys. It begins as a gradual give and take. Getting to know each other makes it all better. It doesn't always go to D/s but when it does it's very exciting for me. To feel that acceptance. And at the same time, how much that turns him on. It turns me on too!

 

[ThePhun1]

There are two aspects of submission, from a male side, which I can comment on: The desire to please, to make a woman smile and laugh, to be a gentleman, gallant, loyal, and the "boy to warm her mother's heart" is one aspect. This stems from a feeling that it is better to give than receive, and thus, many male subs are wired to be the givers of pleasure, which in turn gives them pleasure.

On the kink side, the ability to withstand physical pain for her sake is also a part of where the masochistic side stems from. I also believe, for my own personal health and livlihood, in maintaining a healthy and active lifestyle and physique, for my partner's sake but as much for my own.

I do see a fair amount of stigma towards male submissives and female-led BDSM relationships, even on this site, and sometimes even in this forum. Part of that, I think, does stem from traditional gender roles in a relationship. The notion that a male is submissive to a woman, or (especially) engages in certain heavy compromising kink behavior, cuckolding, etc with a stronger female- all this probably makes some people in traditional gender-relationship roles a bit uncomfortable. And a lot of that is just the demographic, it's in the numbers- If the majority of BDSM practitioners are male dominants and female submissives, I suspect many of these people are probably not comfortable with, or even very accepting of, the opposite dynamic.

Sometimes it just feels good to be a naughty dirty s l u t

 

[SeeMeRolling]

There is something to be learned from every relationship, and every person. Many men go into female led relationships willingly with the intent to learn- to learn not just how to be a better lover, but perhaps to be a better person overall. Sometimes masculine submission isn't at all about whips, paddles, anal play, humiliation, body worship or any of those kinky things. Often times, it is just about learning how to really listen and grow as a person and as a partner.

I would totally agree. Part of my desire to have my wife become more dominant is to see her confidence grow. Unfortunately my spouse has no desire; for much to do with anything sexual at this point. I try to tel myself it might change, but reality is it most likely will not.

But for me submission is not about being weak or “beta”, it’s about what what feels right and what will make me grow as a person. Okay, the ass play, spankings, pain, and peggings too.

 

[MajorSynne]

The trigger for me was the phrase "I will ruin you for any other woman"; this from a much older BBW accumulating confidence with each exchange. For me the need to demonstrate my devotion by submitting to a CP session that would prove both points beyond doubt.

 

[lady_jennaxx]

There is something to be learned from every relationship, and every person. Many men go into female led relationships willingly with the intent to learn- to learn not just how to be a better lover, but perhaps to be a better person overall. Sometimes masculine submission isn't at all about whips, paddles, anal play, humiliation, body worship or any of those kinky things. Often times, it is just about learning how to really listen and grow as a person and as a partner.

^^This. So well stated. The sexual aspect isn't all there is to it, at least not for me.

 

[naughtymind]

There is something to be learned from every relationship, and every person. Many men go into female led relationships willingly with the intent to learn- to learn not just how to be a better lover, but perhaps to be a better person overall. Sometimes masculine submission isn't at all about whips, paddles, anal play, humiliation, body worship or any of those kinky things. Often times, it is just about learning how to really listen and grow as a person and as a partner.

One of the most spot on posts I’ve read on this forum! Thanks for saying that. Honestly, even just the first sentence kind of says it all really.

 

[Squeeze_Tight]

I’m so happy to have come across this thread, both because of what an interesting read it’s been, and also because it’s assuaged my doubts that my first story (and potential future stories) would have a home here, as I’m largely into femdom. It’s also made me ask myself how exactly I enjoy femdom.

My own contribution on the matter of how the role the typically masculine and feminine ideas play into the dynamic, is that I find a typically feminine force dominating a typically male force to be personally very arousing.

For example, a typically masculine figure, with jagged shapes, square shoulders, ripped hard physique and strong upper body being overwhelmed, subdued and submitted by a typically feminine figure, with a softer shape and a full, powerful lower body is extremely hot to me. It’s not just because of a woman taking control of a man, it’s because of a feminine form of strength over powering and demonstrating superiority over a masculine form of strength. The presumption of Male superiority in a certain area being done away with.

Does that make sense?

 

[saintcero]

Masculine Submitting

So glad I found this thread. Now I need to find my Dom

 

[lady_jennaxx]

So glad I found this thread. Now I need to find my Dom

I'm sure there are many out there, seeking what it is you're willing to surrender

 

[lady_jennaxx]

Another guy glad he found this thread. I'm a masculine guy who is realizing that I have a submissive side to me. It's more important to me to please a woman while also having the desires for her to be in total control of me.

Not so much into a lot of pain, but absolutely turned on by being at her mercy.

Glad you're enjoying the thread

 

[lady_jennaxx]

Happy Saturday, all

 

[TheNakedKnight]

masculine submission

A while back there was a thread on masculine submission, but it seems to be gone. I'd like to re-start discussion on this important topic. This is how it works between my wife and me.

I have always enjoyed being submissive to my wife in a masculine way. Sexually, I enjoy being active and pleasing her, while she enjoys being passive and receiving pleasure. I love worshipping her feet and her bottom, giving her oral sex, and pounding her as long and hard as she wants. I fuck her brains out, but I do it to perform for her, to please her. Also, we practice male orgasm control. I always ask my lady’s permission before coming, and I usually do not come after sex. I do not look at porn and do not masturbate myself to orgasm without her permission. The importance of this can’t be overstated. It makes me motivated to serve her, and to focus on her. It also makes sex better. For her, it means that I always have a titanium hard-on at the ready whenever she wants it. For me, it means being inside her and being on the brink of orgasm for a long time, which is emotionally as well as physically very intense.

We do a lot of foot play which we both really enjoy. She likes to have me kiss and lick her feet and her toes. After sex she likes to drift off to sleep while I caress her feet with my still-hard shaft. I see refraining from orgasm as a chivalrous sacrifice that I make for her and for our marriage. Is it easy? Hell no, but I man up and do it.

I am in good shape, and we both enjoy putting me through physical challenges as part of foreplay. For example, she will get me hard and then have me do push-ups or pull-ups or barbell curls for her. Lifting barbells buck-naked with a massive hard-on while my lady looks on and evaluates my performance feels both very manly and very submissive. Another type of physical challenge is seeing how long I can maintain an erection in difficult circumstances, such as outdoors in the winter or in a cold shower. When we do things like this she will reward a good performance by telling me how impressed and turned on she is by my muscles or by the size and hardness of my erection. It is such a rush hearing that I have the body and the equipment to satisfy this amazing woman. Sometimes she will smack my ass with her bare hand or with a wooden hairbrush. Taking pain for her like this is a way for me to prove both my masculinity and my devotion.

When she needs to lay down the law, she does it through emotional and physical distance. For example, there once was a period when I became very focused on work and neglected helping her around the house when there was a lot going on with the kids and some other stuff. She told me exactly what the problem was but otherwise remained withdrawn, and of course sex was completely off the table. It took weeks of impeccable behavior and passionate courting before she decided that I was allowed back into our bed (her bed, let’s face it), and on that night I entertained her with what I swear was the biggest, hardest, and most joyful boner any man has ever had. I learned my lesson from this experience and will do anything to avoid incurring her displeasure. I would rather walk through hell and back than have to go a month without being inside her or having her sit on my face. I am happily whipped. I am a fit, charismatic, and successful man, and my shy 5’3” wife has me wrapped around her pinky toe – and I wouldn’t want it any other way.

This is what masculine submission is in my life and in my marriage. Not super kinky perhaps but real and amazingly fulfilling for both of us.

 

[PaxNurgle]

I believe the original thread you were looking for was in the "Fetish and Sexuality" sub-forum, the thread topic there being "Female led relationships", but what you say has a lot of merit for this sub-forum.

There are different degrees of masculine submission and female led relationships, and every dynamic is different. Some of them don't even involve any kink at all, and some of them evolve that way just because that is how the dynamic of the relationship ended up drifting towards. I had a good friend that ended up in a female led relationship, who had no interest in either kink or FLR's. He was only trying his best to maintain a relationship with a wife who became more and more domineering over time. Sadly, he ended up quite unhappy in the end. It was simply not the relationship he had sought.

Others, though enjoy the dynamic of submitting to their wife, both in the bedroom and in the home, and see it as an act of love and devotion, and both partners find fulfillment in such a relationship. When that happens, it is a beautiful thing. And of course, many couples do enjoy the more extreme BDSM/ femdomme play that drives so many masculine submissives to intense throes of erotic passion.

 

[seela]

Here's the thread OP was looking for. Maybe TPH could merge these two threads as there's more discussion in the first thread?

 

[SubMick]

This has always been an interest to me. I would consider myself a strong sub, I'm not a carpet for a Mistress to walk over, I'm a strong male submissive who can lift a Mistress higher.

The psychological side is always important in this role. I can be over powered and physically dominated but this is generally after I am in bondage (with the excpetion of a well aimed knee obviously). I therefore see it as my will to give my body to a Mistress, this happens through strong mental bonds and a desire to please her and be hers.