Morality of Writing Fan Fiction Based on Literotica Stories

[Plathfan]

but in the end you had to take something from another

I didn't have to. I wanted to.

You need someone else to kickstart your muse, maybe you have a lame muse.

This is just a theoretical discussion. I haven’t written, nor do I intend to write a sequel. I have plenty of my own work to finish. However, there have been moments when ideas for a sequel sparked in me while reading others’ works. Either way, as I’ve already mentioned, I won’t steal established ideas and claim them as my own without giving credit. I know what’s right. I don’t need the legislator to guide me.

Which is exactly what adding on to another person's story is. No matter how hard you work at it, it was now yours. If I write a 50k Star Wars spin off you're really going to say that's my story?

Yes, definitely. I once came across a really gripping story, but I didn’t quite like the direction it took. Toward the end, I even had an outline for a sequel. I was pleased to discover an open invitation from the author for readers to write one.

I tried working on it but quickly abandoned the idea when I realized my characters weren’t truly faithful to the source. As enjoyable as the story was, it had inherent flaws, and its characters' actions often contradicted their personalities. The only option would have been to rewrite it altogether, but that was out of the question. That experience made me realize just how challenging it is to write a sequel that is both true to the original and compelling in its own right.

E: The notion that anyone who tries to write a sequel must be an incompetent thief or be motivated by malicious intent is not only childishly egocentric, but it also reeks of narcissism and antisocial tendencies, which seems quite pitiful from where I’m standing.

 

[MillieDynamite]

@Plathfan, what writing are you talking about? I don't find any stories you wrote here or anywhere under that pen name. A pen name, I assume, is largely a tribute to Sylvia Plath. But where do you post your writing?

 

[Wifetheif]

The way it should be done: i had a gentleman contact me beacuse he wanted to expand do his version of one of my stolen wife tales. We corresponded via e-mail and I realized the story had struck an especially deep neve with him. I said go ahead. It has been several years and that story has yet to appear. Writing your desire is harder than reading about your desire! -- Lit.com really does need a policy for abandoned stories or deceased authors. However, those issues are confusing in the best of times. There is the option of public domain heroes and writers. You can have fun in Lilliput and goe ghost hunting with the early incarnations of Sherlock Holmes with no repercussions at all. There are also more recent characters such as the Tarzan clone, Ki-Gor. https://www.literotica.com/s/the-iris-deception

 

[MillieDynamite]

The last Doyle story of Sherlock Holmes entered the public domain on 1st January 2023.

The way it should be done: i had a gentleman contact me beacuse he wanted to expand do his version of one of my stolen wife tales. We corresponded via e-mail and I realized the story had struck an especially deep neve with him. I said go ahead. It has been several years and that story has yet to appear. Writing your desire is harder than reading about your desire! -- Lit.com really does need a policy for abandoned stories or deceased authors. However, those issues are confusing in the best of times. There is the option of public domain heroes and writers. You can have fun in Lilliput and goe ghost hunting with the early incarnations of Sherlock Holmes with no repercussions at all. There are also more recent characters such as the Tarzan clone, Ki-Gor. https://www.literotica.com/s/the-iris-deception

EDIT: The last collection of Holmes stories, “The Case-Book of Sherlock Holmes,” was published in 1927, three years before the famous author died at 71. But these were reprints from Strand publications. Also, writers were able to gain permission from Holmes Society to write works about Holmes. Check out Nicholas Myer's books featuring Holmes & Watson.

 

[lc69hunter]

I have been given permission to take a story in a different direction by several authors no longer active. I have not done so as of yet.

One author, though, who is 10 chapters in on a story (11 on chyoa) and I have been dm'ing/emailing on every chapter, exchanging ideas on the next chapter while both agreeing on where the story ends up, has suddenly become ill, and announced he had to take a break because of the illness. Because we had already collaborated on the chapter he was working on, I sent him an email offering to finish off the chapter. He never answered, so I have to assume he passed, Such a shame

 

[Wifetheif]

I'm going to write "All Done Screaming" It will be a sequel to Harlan Ellison's "I have no Mouth and I Must Scream" in which it turns out everything was a dream and they all lived happily ever after. Surely Eliison's estate won't have a problem with that, will they?

 

[MillieDynamite]

Um, is that sarcasm? Harlan Ellison was the most litigious writer in history! So I bet his estate will guard his work just as vigorously as he did.

I'm going to write "All Done Screaming" It will be a sequel to Harlan Ellison's "I have no Mouth and I Must Scream" in which it turns out everything was a dream and they all lived happily ever after. Surely Eliison's estate won't have a problem with that, will they?

 

[Wifetheif]

Of COURSE it's sarcasm! I was a huge fan of Ellison. The internet really needs sarcasm and irony sensors.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Just making sure!

Of COURSE it's sarcasm! I was a huge fan of Ellison. The internet really needs sarcasm and irony sensors.

 

[Plathfan]

@Plathfan, what writing are you talking about? I don't find any stories you wrote here or anywhere under that pen name. A pen name, I assume, is largely a tribute to Sylvia Plath. But where do you post your writing?

I post it here:

I write only because
There is a voice within me
That will not be still. --The Journals

The blood jet is poetry,
There is no stopping it. -- Ariel

I shall never get you put together entirely,
Pieced, glued, and properly jointed. --The Colossus

 

[Wifetheif]

The IDEA of a re-write of "I have No Mouth and I Must Scream" being done by a sentient AI to combat "computer phobia" or "AI exclusion" WOULD make for a really biting satire!

 

[AwkwardMD]

The IDEA of a re-write of "I have No Mouth and I Must Scream" being done by a sentient AI to combat "computer phobia" or "AI exclusion" WOULD make for a really biting satire!

They would send Brillo after you

 

[Wifetheif]

They would send Brillo after you

And I'd win a huge Judgment from the ABC network! So there!

 

[Bramblethorn]

@Plathfan, what writing are you talking about? I don't find any stories you wrote here or anywhere under that pen name. A pen name, I assume, is largely a tribute to Sylvia Plath. But where do you post your writing?

Given Tilan's general attitude to people, I suspect it's not so much Plath's poetry he's a fan of as the manner of her death.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Probably so. And it is so sad to end one's life. And what a tropey way to kill oneself. That reminds me of Sherlock's doll house from Elementary!

Given Tilan's general attitude to people, I suspect it's not so much Plath's poetry he's a fan of as the manner of her death.

 

[MillieDynamite]

 

[M_K_Babalon]

It's fan fiction, not an original story. You work as hard as you want on it, but in the end you had to take something from another author to create that story.

What's the big critique with modern cinema? That everything is a sequel or a reboot. They are taking 40 year old movies and doing this. The question is why, and the universal answer is they are creatively bankrupt. The comic industry is even worse. They have nothing new to offer.

Which is exactly what adding on to another person's story is. No matter how hard you work at it, it was not yours. If I write a 50k Star Wars spin off you're really going to say that's my story?

Most people have too many of their own ideas to have time to write a sequel.

Also, there is an insulting tone to it-especially in that trash pile of 'February Sucks" spin offs, and that's the new author thinking the original wasn't done to their satisfaction. Quite arrogant.

You need someone else to kickstart your muse, maybe you have a lame muse.

Borrowed concepts, doesn't mean a story isn't original. Everything around it might not be. Most of mine can be read with some degree of fandom blindness, and I could change some names, and nobody would know out right, like 50 Shades, and probably Twilight itself.

 

[HaralLuhhan]

Short version: I read a story on Literotica that I liked. It was published on the site 13 years ago and the author has been inactive since. Attempts to contact the author have gone unanswered. I'd like to write a sequel to the story (with a disclaimer indicating it's based upon characters the other author created and pointing them to the original story) and publish it as fan fiction. I intend to be respectful of the author's material (this isn't a Blood and Honey hit-job). If asked by the author I would remove my story.

This seems like it would be okay under the site rules. Your thoughts?

I had a thread very similar to this a month ago and got the same response.

I feel your pain, really.

What I've done though, is follow their advice and write something of my own that is inspired by the original. Its my first story here and has had positive reviews so far.

Ultimately while I'd have liked to, in my case, write a continuation of the other authors abandoned story, writing my own has been very satisfying so far.

Regarding the fanfic question, fanfiction.net has existed as long as this site. It's doing fine.

 

[M_K_Babalon]

I had a thread very similar to this a month ago and got the same response.

I feel your pain, really.

What I've done though, is follow their advice and write something of my own that is inspired by the original. Its my first story here and has had positive reviews so far.

Ultimately while I'd have liked to, in my case, write a continuation of the other authors abandoned story, writing my own has been very satisfying so far.

Regarding the fanfic question, fanfiction.net has existed as long as this site. It's doing fine.

This is a small caveat, but a caveat all the same, and one not mentioned; all that seem abandoned, may very well not be. I have at least one story that I hadn't touched in years, that I started back on last year. I'm not alone on that here, or elsewhere.

 

[HaralLuhhan]

This is a small caveat, but a caveat all the same, and one not mentioned; all that seem abandoned, may very well not be. I have at least one story that I hadn't touched in years, that I started back on last year. I'm not alone on that here, or elsewhere.

Yeah I know. I came back to a story on another site I had abandoned 10 years ago as well. I hadn't even visited the site at all. But in this case, given their posting history it was clear they disappeared from all their open stories for 2 years, then appeared in 2014 to do an update on a few stories, and then haven't been back since.

Is it possible they'll come back again after a long absence? Sure, but in the mean time, they've abandoned it, and the site. just like I did.