Movies

[gunhilltrain]

XVIDEOS and Pornhub generate billions in revenue, so money is not the issue. It's unlikely that porn consumers have the patience for a full-length movie with a slow buildup. Additionally, why would talented actors and directors risk tarnishing their names and jeopardizing their careers in the porn industry?

9½ Weeks was a hit back in 1986 but it was an erotic film, not pornographic, and we are no longer in the '80s.

I'm not sure if CaneFreak was referring to porn movies or movies in general. There was a time when there was attempts to make full-length porn movies in America (Behind thee Green Door), but I don't now if much of that is done now. I wrote about seeing The Devil in Miss Jones, and it was basically a series of porn clips held together with a pretext as a plot.

 

[MrPixel]

Where does the $$$ come from? Sponsors? Who's going to put their product next to a Lit story film without taming it down? Coca Cola? Disney? Fat chance. And no dough, no show.

True. My wife and I were talking over dinner how my "novel" could easily be turned into a sexy rom-com series. "Who would you get to produce it?"

I conceded the point.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Right now we are on Planet America, of course.

A quiet voice is singing something to me
An age old song 'bout the home of the brave in this land here of the free
One time one night in America

There's the problem, right there .

 

[Bramblethorn]

Every few weeks we get a post on this forum from somebody who's full of story ideas but isn't good at writing, and wants to find somebody to take care of that little detail for them. From a writer's perspective, though, "ideas" are the easy part. The people who have the storytelling skill to translate an idea into a complete story often already have more than enough ideas of their own.

I wonder if there's something similar involved here. Some parts of writing just don't help a filmmaker: I can write a chapter on how Lúthien Tinúviel is the most beautiful woman in history and her eyes are the moon etc. etc. [continue for pages of beautiful prose] but the filmmaker can't just paste those words into the film. They have to figure out how to establish Lúthien as beautiful using their own tools.

Take away those aspects, and what I have to offer them is essentially a story outline. Probably a bit more detailed than some of the "please write my story for me" posters here are offering, but still... maybe the ones who have the skills and interest to turn that outline into a film already have their own ideas to work with?

I'd love to see more erotic film being made that has the kind of complexity one sees in some stories here. But maybe it's not the supply of story outlines that's the limiting factor for that.

 

[SimonDoom]

You folks live in America, and you're wondering why such movies aren't being made??

Which planet are you on, right now?

It's a complicated place. There's lots of nuttiness. But the appetite for smut is strong here.

 

[SimonDoom]

An example of what I think represents a film version of a Literotic-style story is the short (23 minute) 1999 Italian film Ultimo Metro, about a man waiting for a subway train and a woman on the other side of the track who puts on a show for him, eventually stripping and masturbating while they both wait for their trains. It's perfectly done and very hot. I recommend it. There's an enormous opportunity for similar short films based on short stories.

 

[oneagainst]

Could always start a GoFundMe page to establish Literotica Studios.

I'm a big ideas guy.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Why aren't these stories made into movies?

They are. They're called porn.

 

[ElectricBlue]

It's a complicated place. There's lots of nuttiness. But the appetite for smut is strong here.

As is the appetite for moral righteousness and humbuggery.

I don't think Australia has anywhere near the difficulty coping with sexuality. Sure, we have pockets of righteousness and high morality aka the Catholic church and the worst side of that, but whenever there's a sex scandal, it's more likely a case of, "Onya mate," or meh.

One of our more flamboyant Prime Ministers, a shag artist of the highest order, went off and married his biographer and no-one looked sideways. Another flamboyant PM dared touch Her Maj, but collected Empire clocks, so there's that.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

As fun as it is to contemplate about these things, making actual movies based on Lit stories is not very realistic. It would take too much funding and organizing, too many locations for filming, too many actors, and all that feels way out of our reach. There is also the question if there is enough audience for a story driven and nuanced porn or erotica.
That being said, I do think another approach would be doable. Animated movies, or at least voice-acted stories with plenty of visual scenes done in applications such as Dazz studio are very much doable. There are thousands of teenagers who are making porn - visual novel games with those tools. Many of those games have nonsensical story and characters, but they do find their audience. The whole thing doesn't require too much technical knowledge and it doesn't even require programming knowledge, as we wouldn't be making a game; we would just be rendering scenes. All it would take is a couple of decent PCs for the rendering process and a few people to put together those scenes with assets in Dazz or similar tool. I imagine that finding a couple of voice actors wouldn't be very difficult either. I bet some Lit authors would even like to participate. To be honest, I don't have illusions about something like this ever being done though. Most people here are passive thinkers without much initiative.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

Subscribe to TaleFlick.com and you can pitch your story there.

Alternatively, get an agent and let them pitch it to producers on your behalf. You can go to manuscriptwishlist.com and search for agents accepting queries for erotica and screenplays. You might have better luck with European agents.

If you were lucky enough to go to college (UCLA) with several people who have careers in either Hollywood or "the Valley", you can use your ties to them for assistance in pitching your story.

 

[oneagainst]

As fun as it is to contemplate about these things, making actual movies based on Lit stories is not very realistic. It would take too much funding and organizing, too many locations for filming, too many actors, and all that feels way out of our reach.

...too much money on the tentacle special effects, too hard to rig the microgravity sex scenes... @EmilyMiller

I just scrolled though everything on Netflix. There's got to be better out there.

 

[MrPixel]

If you were lucky enough to go to college (UCLA) with several people who have careers in either Hollywood or "the Valley", you can use your ties to them for assistance in pitching your story.

...too much money on the tentacle special effects, too hard to rig the microgravity sex scenes...

Heh. I have both, albeit secondhand - a guy who was/is big in the FX community, including credits on a handful of blockbusters. Plus, he owes me really, really big, too. He was boffin' my ex, which is why she's my ex.

 

[Emilymcplugger]

...too much money on the tentacle special effects, too hard to rig the microgravity sex scenes... @EmilyMiller

I just scrolled though everything on Netflix. There's got to be better out there.

Yeah, 365 days and sex/life are about as racy as a merry-go-round.

It’s like mainstream erotica hasn’t really moved since the 90’s, whereas the pornisation (is that even a word, me?) of popular music has never relented. In the next decade we’ll probably see pop stars masturbating in their own videos for OnlyFans.

 

[gunhilltrain]

An example of what I think represents a film version of a Literotic-style story is the short (23 minute) 1999 Italian film Ultimo Metro, about a man waiting for a subway train and a woman on the other side of the track who puts on a show for him, eventually stripping and masturbating while they both wait for their trains. It's perfectly done and very hot. I recommend it. There's an enormous opportunity for similar short films based on short stories.

That station must have very low ridership or it's in the middle of the night in one of those systems with 24-hour service (not common). If I think of a candidate station I'll let you know.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Subscribe to TaleFlick.com and you can pitch your story there.

Alternatively, get an agent and let them pitch it to producers on your behalf. You can go to manuscriptwishlist.com and search for agents accepting queries for erotica and screenplays. You might have better luck with European agents.

If you were lucky enough to go to college (UCLA) with several people who have careers in either Hollywood or "the Valley", you can use your ties to them for assistance in pitching your story.

If you don't go to such a college or have other connections, your script is going into one of the huge slush piles of unsolicited scripts that pile up at studios and agencies. I'll take a look at TaleFlick.com, but I bet that site is full of them too. Actually hiring an agent might be the way to go. I don't know how such agents work. Do they offer one free consultation session at the start?

 

[SimonDoom]

As is the appetite for moral righteousness and humbuggery.

I don't think Australia has anywhere near the difficulty coping with sexuality. Sure, we have pockets of righteousness and high morality aka the Catholic church and the worst side of that, but whenever there's a sex scandal, it's more likely a case of, "Onya mate," or meh.

One of our more flamboyant Prime Ministers, a shag artist of the highest order, went off and married his biographer and no-one looked sideways. Another flamboyant PM dared touch Her Maj, but collected Empire clocks, so there's that.

Moral righteousness, humbuggery, and hypocrisy run rampant in this country. But somehow they don't deter the dissemination of smut. The truth is that self-styled traditionalists and conservatives want sex just as much as anyone else.

What we DO have going for us in the US is more robust free speech rights than in most countries. There's relatively little you can be punished for saying in the US--by government, at least. Prosecutions for obscenity have almost, though not entirely, disappeared. There's no such thing as "hate speech" per se in the US: you can't be prosecuted for political statements about groups of people or religions. You can legally be a Nazi. There's very little sexual expression you can be prosecuted for at this point, so one way or another if you are determined to publish it, you can. We have a guarantee of free speech written in our constitution, unlike some countries (including, I think, Australia, but I'm not certain of that).

There's porn all over the place in the US. If someone had funding for making films based on Literotica stories (this would be the key issue, I think), it wouldn't be difficult to find a legal way to disseminate them, nor to find a market.

 

[MelissaBaby]

I nominate @MelissaBaby and Ranger Ramona.

And I already wrote the sequel!

Thanks, that's a great compliment.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Most people here are passive thinkers without much initiative.

Yeah. Writing all this erotica stuff takes so little thought, no discipline, you don't have to think about anything. It's all so passive, nobody does anything at all creative. Let's go make cartoons. Seriously, you think this?

 

[KeithD]

They are. They're called porn.

Well, yes. Literotica is a porn site.

 

[Blind_Justice]

I'd love to see my stories made into movies. There's enough plot besides the sex, but good luck finding someone to cough up the money for location shots and special effects. I don't want my stuff to be shot in front of a cheap green screen, with even shittier CGI effects.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Yeah. Writing all this erotica stuff takes so little thought, no discipline, you don't have to think about anything. It's all so passive, nobody does anything at all creative. Let's go make cartoons. Seriously, you think this?

You misunderstood what I said. There is criticism in my post, but not in the way you perceived it. When I said passive thinkers, I meant in the sense that we contemplate and discuss many things that could be done here, changes, improvements, ways to make things better. But we never actually do anything about it. Some time ago, based on the experience I've had from other forums, I said that people who are active on AH are on average more intelligent and educated by a considerable margin. There were some amazing ideas here, some great thoughts about things that could be done to improve Lit, to improve reader's experience, to improve author's benefits. Yet, there was never any initiative towards Lit for any of those, no energy to at least try to make something happen. That's what I meant when I said passive thinkers. People here are great at thinking, but terrible at acting. From your post I would guess that you understood "passive thinkers" as insulting towards the intelligence and creativity of AH, which couldn't be farther from what I intended to say. Maybe that is what the term I used means - I can never be 100 % sure about the meaning of certain expressions, as English is still a foreign language to me, so if that is the case I apologize for the inconvenience.

 

[ElectricBlue]

You misunderstood what I said.

Yes, I think I did. Your explanation is now better understood, thank you. No need for an apology though, all good

 

[MelissaBaby]

You misunderstood what I said. There is criticism in my post, but not in the way you perceived it. When I said passive thinkers, I meant in the sense that we contemplate and discuss many things that could be done here, changes, improvements, ways to make things better. But we never actually do anything about it. Some time ago, based on the experience I've had from other forums, I said that people who are active on AH are on average more intelligent and educated by a considerable margin. There were some amazing ideas here, some great thoughts about things that could be done to improve Lit, to improve reader's experience, to improve author's benefits. Yet, there was never any initiative towards Lit for any of those, no energy to at least try to make something happen. That's what I meant when I said passive thinkers. People here are great at thinking, but terrible at acting. From your post I would guess that you understood "passive thinkers" as insulting towards the intelligence and creativity of AH, which couldn't be farther from what I intended to say. Maybe that is what the term I used means - I can never be 100 % sure about the meaning of certain expressions, as English is still a foreign language to me, so if that is the case I apologize for the inconvenience.

IMO, no one acts on any of the suggestions for change that are so often made here, because there has never been a consensus for any of them.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

IMO, no one acts on any of the suggestions for change that are so often made here, because there has never been a consensus for any of them.

Instant comments for better communication with readers. That was universally supported by everyone, yet no one wanted to act.
Blog function for authors? There was decent support and there were no objections from those who didn't want that function, as there would be no one forcing them to use it.
Making published stories editable, so we can correct small typos and mistakes. Everyone was in favor, but again no action.
That is just off the top of my head. Sure, there were some that resulted in heated discussions and divided opinions, such as those about ratings changes, categories changes, removing or not removing HOT etc. I'd say that even in those discussions we would have been more constructive if we had a real desire to be heard and to put our requests forward.