my take on women

reddman

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well, recently I have been enlightened with some choices that would either benefit or negate me the company of an attractive female. on a deep primary existance level this may be an attempt to further my blood line through finding a suitable mate to breed with. On a less darwinian level it could just be that I really need to get some nooky and if the nooky is good...keep the frequency of nooky to its maximum.

know, i've always been very shy and more or less negative when dealing with meeting women. As of lately however, I've noticed that with a little bit of effort, and a lot of risk, meeting women is not entirely difficult. It's not absolutely successful and easy either.

Most recently over the summer, I found myself surrounded by several very attractive women in my summer graduate class. One women of which I would classify as super hot. Now that I look back at the past, I really have always been able to talk to attractive women, I just wasn't sure by what means. Anyway, super hot was in the library minding her own business when I realized that I just have to talk to her. I asked her her advise on an assignment we had to do, which turned into an hour and a half conversation on everything. Turns out she is married however, but she and I still are in contact with eachother.

The point is, I took a leap of faith and talked to her.

STEP 1. Don't be afraid to talk to women.

Now recently, I was put into a situation where a female friend of mine has wanted me to meet a coworker of hers for some time. I have been on a couple of blind dates before, and they just didn't leave a good taste in my mouth. This time I was prepared for the worst and NOT expecting the best.

First i was expecting this female to look as trashy and disfunctional as my neighbors[if anyone out there has white trash neighbors, then you'll sympathize with me]. When we arrived to pick-up her friend, I was stunned. This girl is really very good looking.

Step 2. Take every chance to meet someone new.

As soon as I looked at her, i automaticaly thought, "Oh this one's too good looking for me". Though, the night proved me wrong again. Once we started to loosen up and the conversation got better, I started noticing her touching my arm, my back, or bumping my leg whenever I said something funny or she said something directly to me. {you may want to read about what followed in my thread titled "She Touched My Arm"}

Step 3. Don't under estimate yourself.[haven't we all seen the hot chick with ugly dude or vice verse?]

Step 4. Take notes of the subtle or not so subtle hints.[touching, eye contact, etc.]

Step 5. Don't be affraid to showboat yourself.>>>

I realized that this young women didn't show much interest in me until I first show myself. I offered the information about myself to her and she took it and ran with it. That's when the touching started.


Well before our date last night, I was still apprehensive of her interest in me. Once we started dancing, my apprehension turned into self-confidence.
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> DANCING RULES:
-You must follow these rules:
If you are in a club/bar and your date wants to dance[which all women LOVE to dance], you MUST go out on the dance floor and make an effort to dance with her.
I'll repeat that so it'll sink in, "If you are in a club/bar and your date wants to dance[which all women LOVE to dance], you MUST go out on the dance floor and make an effort to dance with her.
If you think you'll look like a fool, so what? If your friends will laugh at you, ask yourself, "are my friends going to provide me with a warm body to wake up next to in the morning?"
You MUST MAKE AN EFFORT.
If you don't, here's what will happen. SOME OTHER GUY WILL!
some other guy will be out there on the dance floor and your girl will get cought up dancing with him. Before you know it, the night is a wash and your date has gotten someone elses phine number or at least an idea of where to find her next date. If you go out there, you will be rewarded for your efforts. read it all again if you want. This is what happens. Ask any women out there.

I somehow had a moment of clarity right before she started to pull me onto the dancefloor and realized all of the above. I'm just ashamed it took me so long to realize this. Once on the floor, i was struggling to move my feet the right way to rock music[very difficult to dance to]. However, after a few minutes, and with the luck of the right band playing, her dancing become more directed towards me and soon she was girating right into my body, even taking hold of my hands at some point and placing them on her hips.

Step 6. Let her lead you.

This proved to be great at easing my doubts of her interests in me while boosting my ego simmultaneously[at the same time]. Before I knew it, she and I were moving to the music as one. She even waved of the advances of other men trying to cut in; pulling me closer to her.

Step 7. Be a gentleman.
[this still needs some time to be proven, and will be updated after it is proven.]
She was way too drunk to drive home and I offered her my bed for some snugglin/cuddling sleep without anything expected. I did manage to get some lip action before we fell asleep in eachother's arms. Waking up in bed with someone you genuinely like and carressing eachother while just laying together is really a mentally healthy thing.

I hope to right all of you soon to update my theory on women. As always, your thoughts and comments are welcome.
 
Zergplex Says

My only comment is on the all women love to dance quote, that is not true at all. My darling dislikes dancing of that sort more then I do (embaressment more then anything else). Generalizations like that are not always true, there are just as many women who can't/are afraid to dance as men. Otherwise I'm not faulting your technique, if your date wants to dance do so. Heck no matter what their interest is if they want to do it do so rather then say 'I'm not good...' at least the attempt at it will endear her/him.

Just my piece.

-Zergplex
 
From the female perspective, that all sounds like solid advice, reddman. Just try not to analyze your love life with that evolutionary psychology crap. It's useless.
 
I'm with Zergplex on this one. I hate dancing and if you didn't have much of a chance with me and drag me to the dance floor .. forget it your slight chance is now nil.
 
I love slow dancing, and some fast, I have to be in the mood and usually under the influence to enjoy the fast stuff.

Everything you said was quite on the ball, keep up the good work and you will likely be rewarded.

Most of all Have fun!
SC
 
I prefer laughing and silliness to dancing.
 
In all fairness, I don't think he meant "all women love dancing, so MAKE YOURS DANCE WITH YOU TONIGHT, do it, no matter what she says!"

I think he meant it more like "If your chick takes you to a DANCE CLUB, and then asks you to dance -- DO THE MATH, STUPID. She wants to be there, she wants to dance, and she's gonna dance with SOMEONE. Make it YOU!"

;)
 
reddman, I think this is all really good advice. I agree with most everything you said. Even the dancing - many women do like to dance. If the girl you are with does, then you are very right to say that the guy should just get out there and make the effort rather than worry about how skillful a dancer he is. She will appreciate that effort a lot.
I was going to say "good luck", but you probably won't need it.
:)
JJ
 
well, i may have been wrong...

maybe I have been analyzing this too much. I do appreciate the comments and criticisms, but i think I literally just this minute gained somemore insight into figuring out women. It might be possible that I have been trying to figure out the wrong thing. Instead of figuring out women as different creatures from men, maybe my focus should have been just figuring out HUMANS.

I say this because, I was just talking to this new found female interest of mine and instead of thinking of her as just a women, it dawned on me that she is also just a person. she has things on her mind that just may not be ME. work, school, HER KIDS.

I'm not exactly sure where I'm going with this, but I don't have enough to write it out yet. anyone want to input?
 
dont try to figure a woman out, really dont. Just try instead to understand, women arent some kind of math problem that has an answer, and are as dynamic a person as you. Talk to her, get to know her, understand her wants and her needs. Be there for her. She will appreciate that more than you would believe.
 
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