Nationalism and patiotism ... huh?

If you guys already have a problem with these things, try being german....then the whole topic becomes a real bitch.

Snoopy
 
pop_54 said:
<snip>people that should really fuck off if they don't like it here<snip>
Sure thing, Pops, but where's 'here'? Maybe to you the answer is 'England', but to me it's a part of the West Riding (which those buggers down south decided to re-designate 'West Yorkshire', destroying part of my heritage), or part of Europe, or part of the World - depending on context. What I've noticed is that lately, contexts in which I think of 'here' as part of either England or the UK have become increasingly rare.

My local authority thought I was worth appointing to a teaching post in our local college. My national government changed the rules and destroyed my role and those of a number of colleagues. So now I drive wagons. I may be being conceited, but based on comments some of them have made, I think the kids 'here' lost out.

f5
 
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fifty5 said:
Sure thing, Pops, but where's 'here'? Maybe to you the answer is 'England', but to me it's a part of the West Riding (which those buggers down south decided to re-designate 'West Yorkshire', destroying part of my heritage), or part of Europe, or part of the World - depending on context. What I've noticed is that lately, contexts in which I think of 'here' as part of either England or the UK have become increasingly rare.

My local authority thought I was worth appointing to a teaching post in our local college. My national government changed the rules and destroyed my role and those of a number of colleagues. So now I drive wagons. I may be being conceited, but based on comments some of them have made, I think the kids 'here' lost out.

f5



Aint no Southerners running this country 5 mate... The prime minister and chancellor are fucking Jock's... so are a load of others in govn't... They've got their own Assembly up there now and able to run things differently to us... about time we had one of our own with a more fair voting base that better suits our national character... We moved without being asked as well if it's any consolation mate... Our town used to be capital of Berkshire years ago... we're in freekin left wing PC crazy Oxfordshire now... and they're the buggers who fucked it for the kids in this country... The mustn't allow competition... mustn't make kids feel left out because they can't make high school grade... mustn't punish the kids for misbehaving... let's destroy the education system with our ideals... fucking Jock run left wing of a few years back... and this bunch of tossers are now throwing money at a problem they created but is too far gone to save... I expect your job went because they had to set up a management centre with 2000 managers to try to sort out why the schools weren't performing... but of course they had to make cuts in order to employ all those managers... Health service is going the same way.

But I still love it here and don't want to live anywhere else... about time the English pulled together instead of pulling apart and running the place down as a nation of English people... moan all you want about government, they can be fucked off out of it with a bit of luck one day... One government doesn't make a whole nation with all the history and heritage.
 
pop_54 said:
... Health service is going the same way...
That started first (I worked in the NHS before moving into further Ed.) When I joined, 'service to the patient' was the single best turn-on (within work) for almost every NHS employee, from matron down to ward maid, porter and laundry worker. My job was Work Study (aka 'time and motion'), but when I explained that what I was doing would free up time to improve patient care, then I was actually welcomed.

By the time I left (1980 approx), I couldn't tell that story any more - at least, not and be believed. Both I and the staff I studied knew that saving time would just mean cuts in the time available: cash was the new God, not the patients! That's a long time ago now, but I bet the only change has been from cash to 'targets' - from outside, it still doesn't look as if individual patients - unique people - are at the centre of things...

f5 - Maybe I'm just cynical, but...
 
Liar said:
... My question still stands though: Was it just indoctrination that made me all giddy when the Swede Stefan Holm won the High Jump gold a few days ago? ...
Now, this particular question I can answer. When you see that this man was propelling himself well over two and a half metres (8 feet) in the air to get over that bar it's enough to make anyone feel giddy.
 
snooper said:
Now, this particular question I can answer. When you see that this man was propelling himself well over two and a half metres (8 feet) in the air to get over that bar it's enough to make anyone feel giddy.
The fact that he is the shortest guy in the field, a Frodo among high jumpers makes it kind of cool too. :)

#L
 
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