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[RavenousRae]

Braids, you would lose your license to carry breasts if you knew what a ryyk blade was.

Shit I need a license for things! So I've been carrying around illegal breasts for 15 years! Jeez, it's a good thing someone finally told me. I will start hiding them from now on.

I'm currently writing a treatise on the Wookie/Klingon fight issue. Beyond that I don't know what you could buy that would cover all that. I know there are various encyclopedias for both Universes. They are rather expensive, though and still don't cover EVERYTHING.

A treatise! You are a nerd

I'll have to check if these encyclopedias are in my library, if not I suppose I should just get myself a nerd to keep me up to date

 

[SexyCleric]

Whoops.

Sorry 'bout the double post.

 

[SexyCleric]

Shit I need a license for things! So I've been carrying around illegal breasts for 15 years! Jeez, it's a good thing someone finally told me. I will start hiding them from now on.

No, not at all.
The license is actually right underneath your right shoulder blade.
Right next to your BIN.

 

[Spins]

I've not run into ryyk blades in the games I've played.
Granted, I haven't played them all, but any melee weapons you run into in SW games are 98% of the time glowing pig stickers or vibroblades.

Good sir, the only reason I knew what a ryyk blade was, is because I bumped into them in the SW RPG book. Once.
You also capitalize it, knowing it's a proper name, and not just a generic one. Nerd.

Not a chance in hell.
Five bucks says there are more SW fans who have seen a vagina, than those who know what a ryyk is.

Braids, you would lose your license to carry breasts if you knew what a ryyk blade was.

How many of the latest Star Wars games have you played? The Ryyk blade is a fairly new addition the the universe. Star Wars Galaxy players (which numbered in the millions) would know what a Ryyk blade was.

And what will you do when the Empress comes and says she knows what a Ryyk blade is? Takes her rack from her?

 

[Spins]

A treatise! You are a nerd

I'll have to check if these encyclopedias are in my library, if not I suppose I should just get myself a nerd to keep me up to date

There are several editions of those damn encyclopedias. I know in the Star Wars universe there are smaller books just for characters, ships, droids, and places/planets. There is a HUGE volume that has a more generic look at everything, but it was over 100 bucks when it came out. Not sure if it has been updated with a new edition or not.

 

[SexyCleric]

How many of the latest Star Wars games have you played? The Ryyk blade is a fairly new addition the the universe. Star Wars Galaxy players (which numbered in the millions) would know what a Ryyk blade was.

And what will you do when the Empress comes and says she knows what a Ryyk blade is? Takes her rack from her?

Ah, hadn't considered Galaxies.

If the Empress knew, I would humbly ask for forgiveness.
Though, I'm still hedging my bet.

You're still a nerd.

 

[Spins]

Ah, hadn't considered Galaxies.

If the Empress knew, I would humbly ask for forgiveness.
Though, I'm still hedging my bet.

You're still a nerd.

I bet she does. She loves the Star Wars universe as much as I do <nods>

I am not a Nerd. I just know some stuff. That's all.

 

[SexyCleric]

I bet she does. She loves the Star Wars universe as much as I do <nods>

I am not a Nerd. I just know some stuff. That's all.

Then this one, I shall concede defeat.

*Grumble* Walking carpets and their dumb weapons *Grumble*

 

[Spins]

Then this one, I shall concede defeat.

*Grumble* Walking carpets and their dumb weapons *Grumble*

You may want to wait till she confirms or denies. I have been wrong before. She may just say she doesn’t know to let you win. She is generous that way

 

[Spins]

Now...for the Wookie vs Klingon thing.

Let's assume that it is melee combat and not ranged combat. This eliminates another argument of the various relative strengths of blasters, bowcaster, disruptors, and phasers.

Now I believe we can agree that the smithing and weapon shaping process of the Klingons and the Wookies are consistently high and thus we need not worry about the strength of the bladed weapons they use. As a side note there are all manner of Wookie Ryyk blades. Daggers, one handed swords, two handed swords, and the like. The Klingons also have various bladed weapons of which the Bat'leth is the most well known.

We must look at the size and shape of the two species (races if you prefer). There isn't much variance of height with Wookies. They all tend to be seven foot and above. There is a great difference in weight however. You have the rather lean and lanky Chewie model and the more bodybuilding Tarful model (The Wook standing next to Chewie in episode Three).

Klingons tends to vary in both height and size, but the warriors seem to be about six foot and very muscular. They tend to be thickly built and stout in most respects.

Wookies will easily have the reach on any Klingon they meet in combat. A trained warrior should be able to stay out of range of incoming blows while still being able to hit the opponent. This is a decided edge to the Wookies.

I believe we can give Klingons the edge in overall training for war. Beyond a few priests and the oddball merchant all Klingons seem to revel in war and all that entails. Wookies on the other hand have a more peaceful existence. They hunt wildlife which skills can translate into warfare, but generally they are content to live and work in their woodland home and wouldn’t fight unless absolutely forced to. This edge in training could cancel out the Wookies reach because a trained warrior would understand the situation they were in and continually do everything he could to keep himself/herself within his own striking range.

Wookies go into a rage when they feel angered and upset. This gives the Wookie an immense boost in strength (which is already considerable) and the ability to shrug off pain in order to do as much damage to whatever caused their rage in the first place. While this isn’t the same as always training for war in combination with some warrior training I believe we can cancel out the Klingon edge from being nothing but warriors. I this give a slight edge to the Wookies for fighting style.

It is my contention that Wookies posses more brute strength than Klingons do. This shouldn’t be taken as an edge, though. Klingons are very strong in their own right and they know how to best utilize that strength. I think it’s a push.

Klingons and Wookies both have a “honor” code, but in my experience very few Klingons follow their code when push comes to shove. While this isn’t something to aspire to it could be considered an edge when in a fight. If you are willing to fight dirty then you are more likely to survive the fight. This, of course, is very subjective. What is considered dirty? There would also be a question of whether this was a personal fight without any external factors. If a Wookie was protecting his/her family or honor family and felt there was no other way to save them but to dishonor themselves then they would hold their personal honor as secondary to their family honor and be just as dirty and underhanded as any Ferangi. Therefore I can only give a slight edge to the Klingons because there are too many factors to, umm, factor in.

This also points to another problem in trying to determine who would win a fight. Wookies don’t fight just because while Klingons do. While there are asshole Wookies that are aggressive and attempt to goad others into fights most Wookies simply ignore them and often those Wookies are sent into exile. Even if a Klingon was to appear from the mists and want to fight there is a better than 95% chance there wouldn’t be a Wookie willing to fight just because.

We also need to try and determine the intimidation factor. Both species live on the fact they have a reputation of being incredibly fearsome. Most fights are ended before they are even begun. This then would also be a push. Would either be intimidated by the other? If anything the Klingons would be weirded out that their opponents wore no clothing

Finally we have to factor in the hole card for Wookies. What if the Wookie was force sensitive? Now, obviously, if the Wookie was already a Jedi then there would be no contest, but what if they simple had a little bit of unknown ability. Hints and guidance. The intrinsic “gut” feeling. I doubt any of us could truly factor this in, but it is something to keep in mind when arguing who would win.

So what does this all tell us? It tells us that it is always the individual and not the species. There is no generic Wookie on which we can agree on to fight a generic Klingon.

Plus…we all know it’s about the Noghri

 

[tolyk]

It's official.. Spins is the biggest nerd in the thread

 

[SexyCleric]

I agree with Tolyk, and fully can say, my ego is beaten up here.

Spins' points are valid.
Except for the force sensitive bit.
A raging wookie can no more utilize the force than a klingon could.

Transhodans forever.

 

[lil_squirter]

I've not run into ryyk blades in the games I've played.
Granted, I haven't played them all, but any melee weapons you run into in SW games are 98% of the time glowing pig stickers or vibroblades.

Good sir, the only reason I knew what a ryyk blade was, is because I bumped into them in the SW RPG book. Once.
You also capitalize it, knowing it's a proper name, and not just a generic one. Nerd.



Not a chance in hell.
Five bucks says there are more SW fans who have seen a vagina, than those who know what a ryyk is.

Braids, you would lose your license to carry breasts if you knew what a ryyk blade was.

Ryyk blades, as I can see I must step in and take matters inhand here...predate SWG. Infact the first mention that I recall of the weapons which vary from short handled scythlike instruments to a more scimitar shaped blade, is in Dark Force Rising which was released in 1992.

Each Ryyk is hand crafted by and for each Wookie who wields it and is a tool for war as well as construction. They can be used as aids in climbing, harvesting of food, two can be used to scissor things free, they have been used for a lever in case of prying and so on.

In conclusion..no permits are needed for breasts. And I have seen more breasts and vagina than the males of this board are ever likely to.

 

[Wayon]

Wow... Klingons verus Wookies

I suppose comparing them to the Jem'Hadar would be even more nerdy since they come from the "rotten" child of the ST universe that is DS9. Also, they're soilders, not warriors. For any proper comparison would probably have to be done against, I'd say, the Clone/Storm Troopers and Jaffa.

 

[Texguy84]

Wow... Klingons verus Wookies

I suppose comparing them to the Jem'Hadar would be even more nerdy since they come from the "rotten" child of the ST universe that is DS9. Also, they're soilders, not warriors. For any proper comparison would probably have to be done against, I'd say, the Clone/Storm Troopers and Jaffa.

Jem'Hadar beat Storm Troopers, no contest, but Clone Troopers beat Jem'Hadar (at least, Clone Troopers as seen at the end of the Clone Wars, they were pretty badass).

Jem'Hadar vs. Jaffa... I'd give it to the Jem'Hadar, they can do the cloaking thing, and tend to be marginally better trained and better equipped for fighting (Staff Weapons are impressive, but not terribly useful ranged weapons since they can not be easily aimed).

Speaking of Stargate, I've probably mentioned this before, but does anyone else notice that the Tau'Ri starships on SG1 (Prometheus, Daedalus, etc.) strongly resemble Colonial BattleStars?

 

[Wayon]

Jem'Hadar beat Storm Troopers, no contest, but Clone Troopers beat Jem'Hadar (at least, Clone Troopers as seen at the end of the Clone Wars, they were pretty badass).

Jem'Hadar vs. Jaffa... I'd give it to the Jem'Hadar, they can do the cloaking thing, and tend to be marginally better trained and better equipped for fighting (Staff Weapons are impressive, but not terribly useful ranged weapons since they can not be easily aimed).

Speaking of Stargate, I've probably mentioned this before, but does anyone else notice that the Tau'Ri starships on SG1 (Prometheus, Daedalus, etc.) strongly resemble Colonial BattleStars?

Well, cartoons do have a tendancy to show action that wouldn't normally be practical to do in live action. But yeah, Clone Troopers as seen in Clone Wars were, well, just plain better.

Jem'Hadar can shroud; Jaffa can heal light(to medium?) wounds with the help of the parasite. The Staff weapon was shown to be a terrible ranged weapon.

Prometheus doesn't look like it, but the Daedalus does.

 

[RavenousRae]

Ryyk blades, as I can see I must step in and take matters inhand here...predate SWG. Infact the first mention that I recall of the weapons which vary from short handled scythlike instruments to a more scimitar shaped blade, is in Dark Force Rising which was released in 1992.

Each Ryyk is hand crafted by and for each Wookie who wields it and is a tool for war as well as construction. They can be used as aids in climbing, harvesting of food, two can be used to scissor things free, they have been used for a lever in case of prying and so on.

In conclusion..no permits are needed for breasts. And I have seen more breasts and vagina than the males of this board are ever likely to.

That is a wonderful conclusion

And damn Spins, don't ever try the "not a nerd" case again!

 

[Spins]

That is a wonderful conclusion

And damn Spins, don't ever try the "not a nerd" case again!

I will do what I feel is right...of course

 

[SexyCleric]

Ryyk blades, as I can see I must step in and take matters inhand here...predate SWG. Infact the first mention that I recall of the weapons which vary from short handled scythlike instruments to a more scimitar shaped blade, is in Dark Force Rising which was released in 1992.

Each Ryyk is hand crafted by and for each Wookie who wields it and is a tool for war as well as construction. They can be used as aids in climbing, harvesting of food, two can be used to scissor things free, they have been used for a lever in case of prying and so on.

In conclusion..no permits are needed for breasts. And I have seen more breasts and vagina than the males of this board are ever likely to.

*Kneels*
I am in the wrong.
I submit to the Empress' judgement.

 

[lil_squirter]

*Kneels*
I am in the wrong.
I submit to the Empress' judgement.

I shall think long and hard for an appropriate pennance.

 

[SpeX125]

I shall think long and hard for an appropriate pennance.

An appropriate pennance,would be long and hard. (sorry,SC)

 

[Palmetto13]

Wow...I thought I was a nerd...just a bit out of my element...

Anyone up for obscure Middle-Earth debates?

 

[Spins]

Wow...I thought I was a nerd...just a bit out of my element...

Anyone up for obscure Middle-Earth debates?

I'm afraid I'm not too up on my Middle Earth minutia otherwise I'd debate you. Sorry Palm

I really only know Star Wars. My Star Trek lore is lacking in great respect. You notice my Klingon arguments were much shorter and less well thought out.

Truthfully Middle Earth daunts me.

 

[Palmetto13]

I'm afraid I'm not too up on my Middle Earth minutia otherwise I'd debate you. Sorry Palm

I really only know Star Wars. My Star trek lore is lacking in great respect. You notice my Klingon arguments were much shorter and less well thought out.

Truthfully Middle Earth daunts me.

Hmm...good thing I limited to M.E. and didn't start branching out into Numenor and other assorted locales from the Simarillion.

Sauron v. Palpatine? Nah...

Any ideas for staving off the flu before I actually get sick? Anyone?

 

[Spins]

Hmm...good thing I limited to M.E. and didn't start branching out into Numenor and other assorted locales from the Simarillion.

Sauron v. Palpatine? Nah...

Any ideas for staving off the flu before I actually get sick? Anyone?

Orange Juice and lots of it. That's all I've got to offer on that subject

I never have gotten through the Simarillion. I just couldn't do it. I may try again after I finish my Herodotus.