New Democrats Need Apply

[KingOrfeo]

That's what every single mass murdering socialist shit hole that has ever existed said when they started out as a socialist democracy or some other benign sounding form of soft socialism right before some populist showed up and killed people by the trainload.

Pure bullshit and you know it. Canada will become a police state before Sweden does.

The fundamental philosophy underpinning both social democracy and iron fisted communism is that the ends justify the means.

Anything goes in the name of the greater good of the state.

More bullshit. Social democrats for-real care about the people, not the state.

It's not only anti-American but evil as all fuck and it should scare anyone who's ever so much as glanced at history to see how well socialism run a muck turns out.

Ain't nothin' evil about it -- nothing anti-American, either. Proto-sosh Thomas Paine was just as good a Founding Father as Hamilton or Jefferson.

 

[JackLuis]

No, Rahm Emanuel Should Definitely Not Become Head of the DNC

After winning another election to her leadership position in the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi said Democrats actually don’t want a new direction.

Democratic operative David Brock, for his part, is gathering the super-rich donor class together, figuring it has the best ideas for what the party should do next.

And Joe Lieberman says Democrats need to go back to tacking right, since that worked so well when he ran alongside Al Gore in 2000.

But perhaps the most asinine idea came this week from Chicago magazine’s Carol Felsenthal, who proposed that Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel run for the head of the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

Yes, the same Rahm Emanuel who was an architect of NAFTA, a key player in passing both Bill Clinton’s crime bill and welfare reform, and a corporate Democrat through and through, whose neoliberal, centrist politics are without rival.

This would be tantamount to missing a slow and steady softball pitch, then handing the bat to your loudmouth younger brother to take a swing, while he’s busy trying to rent the field to some Swiss-owned hedge fund.

Well here is the DNC Establishment wanting to do the same old same old, again!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Pure bullshit and you know it. Canada will become a police state before Sweden does.

That might be true, but Canada is pro socialism too.

More bullshit. Social democrats for-real care about the people, not the state.

LMFAO!!!

Only in their rhetoric....their actions say otherwise, the exact opposite in fact.

Ain't nothin' evil about it --

Justifying shitting on the individual for the greater good of the state is absolutely evil, the most hated evil mass murders ever known were all socialists doing exactly that it in the name of their perceived greater good.

nothing anti-American, either.

Yea except that whole government shitting on the individual and their rights part....it's pretty anti-American.

Proto-sosh Thomas Paine was just as good a Founding Father as Hamilton or Jefferson.

Proto.....

Paine still held the rights of the individual in high regard over the power of the state and would be considered a practical anarcho-libertoonian nut job by today's "liberal" democrat standards.

The basic philosophy and fundamental principals of socialism are at odds as the direct opposites of the core principals and philosophies the USA was founded upon.

 

[KingOrfeo]

LMFAO!!!

Only in their rhetoric....their actions say otherwise, the exact opposite in fact.

Not in any country where social democrats wield any actual power, they don't.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not in any country where social democrats wield any actual power, they don't.

Not a single fucking one of them.


They care about their society....their collective.

But they don't care about people or individuals.

Those are to be saced or swept under the rug in the name of the collective any time that is the easy solution.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Not a single fucking one of them.


They care about their society....their collective.

But they don't care about people or individuals.

Those are to be saced or swept under the rug in the name of the collective any time that is the easy solution.

That ain't how things go in Scandinavia or anywhere in the EU. Or in any industrialized democracy I know of that has things like universal health care, etc. Where are the Canuckistani Gulags? No, you might not like Bernie's politics, but there is nothing in any way scary about them, save to people who are a great deal richer than you and might be faced with the prospect of becoming just a tiny bit less rich, but not with the prospect of getting shot in a ditch. Where do you get these silly notions, anyway?!

 

[BotanyBoy]

That ain't how things go in Scandinavia or anywhere in the EU. Or in any industrialized democracy I know of that has things like universal health care, etc.

Not this century, yet....it's only 2016 still!!

And considering what's going on in Venezuela I wouldn't be so sure about that either. It wouldn't be shocking to find out 2.8 million were buried in mass graves out in the jungles this year.

Wouldn't be the first time socialist did it.

No, you might not like Bernie's politics, but there is nothing in any way scary about them,

Oh yea you just gotta ignore it's mass murder filled history....

save to people who are a great deal richer than you and might be faced with the prospect of becoming just a tiny bit less rich,

A lot less rich and with less opportunity.

but not with the prospect of getting shot in a ditch. Where do you get these silly notions, anyway?!

The long history of mass murder under socialism.

 

[JackLuis]

BB:
Just because Hitler, Stalin called themselves socialists doesn't mean they were. Just because people call themselves American Patriots doesn't mean they adhere to our founding principles.
Hillary called herself a Democrat but she isn't. Trump is not a Republican either. Both are shills for their masters.

 

[BotanyBoy]

BB:
Just because Hitler, Stalin called themselves socialists doesn't mean they were.

But they did fit every definition of socialist and they ran their shit like socialist nearly across the board.

Max government control over the economy and culture, effective and or outright banishment of private property or control over the means of production.

Rights of the state always superseded those of the individual.

They were socialist...so was Mao...Pol Pot...the Kim family of N. Korea....Castro.

Just because people in CA/NY seem hell bent churching the shit up doesn't change the fact that kind of centralized power has spawned some really nasty regimes and horrible times. Within the last century no less.

Socialism is not inherently wonderful warm fuzzy utopia. It is what you make it, making it a power trip away from millions in mass graves.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The long history of mass murder under socialism.

That's like saying Nazism discredits conservatism. (Other things do discredit it, but not that.) You need to be able to distinguish between, say, Stalin and Keynes.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That's like saying Nazism discredits conservatism.

Except Nazis weren't conservatives.

They may have been nationalist, but that's not the same as conservatism.

You need to be able to distinguish between, say, Stalin and Keynes.

The core philosophies are the same, Stalin is a possible outcome of Keynes that has occurred numerous times.

Super controlling, massively powerful, thought policing, fuck the individual for the greater good lefty collectivist government is ALWAYS good..........

Until an asshole takes power and kills hundreds of thousands if not millions of people with it.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Tulsi Gabbard she's hot!

Not a Christian but she surfs! Charlie don't surf.

Guess she could fall back on her father's religion if elected as POTUS. Being Catholic shouldn't hold her back too much.

https://s3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/97PM5gKolU6.eIZ3n4QC.g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTcyMw--/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2014-09-19/8541dbb0-3faf-11e4-a767-c5858a4ccebe_Tulsi-Gabbard-Duck-Dive.gif

 

[phrodeau]

Well, now that we'll have Trump in office, BotanyBoy can finally feel safe enough so he won't mind when they take his guns away.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well, now that we'll have Trump in office, BotanyBoy can finally feel safe enough so he won't mind when they take his guns away.

I'm not a ride or die partisan like you phro...

They won't be taking my guns away.

 

[RabbleVox]

They won't be taking my guns away.

No, but I might.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, but I might.

You're a daisy if you do....

 

[RabbleVox]

You're a daisy if you do....

Then beware the dreaded daisy.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Then beware the dreaded daisy.

http://www.vomzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/cool-im-so-excited-gif-784.gif

 

[KingOrfeo]

Except Nazis weren't conservatives.

And social democrats are not socialists. (Bernie calls himself one, but I think he really only means "socialist by American standards".)

Hard_Rom explains it well.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And social democrats are not socialists. (Bernie calls himself one, but I think he really only means "socialist by American standards".)

Yes they are, the core principals are the same.

State> individual and anything goes in the name and glory of the sate.

Bernie calls himself one because he's honest.

 

[JackLuis]

BB:
What do you think Demo's should do to not be the assholes you think they are? Do you have any constructive things to add to the thread topic or, are you content to just spout abuse and drivel?

Come on, be constructive not destructive. What are you a Marine? "When you need something blown up, riddled with bullets, or vaporized right now, Call in the Marines!"

Did you learn nothing from OIF? Perhaps that bombs, napalm, and tanks are poor methods to get people to see the value of American principles? That know-nothing hyper-political appointees, like Bremmer are poor choices to lead the reconstruction of a country?

Can't you think of one Democrat that would change the direction of the Party from the Neo-Liberal trajectory they are on to something more constructive?

You are just emulating the people you despise by adopting their tactics of deception and obstruction. Even plants don't thrive in fresh bullshit but do respond positively to bullshit that has aged and transformed itself into mulch and fertilizer.

 

[BotanyBoy]

BB:
What do you think Demo's should do to not be the assholes you think they are? Do you have any constructive things to add to the thread topic or, are you content to just spout abuse and drivel?

Increase opportunity for EVERYONE, not just well connected, rich (D)emocrats.

For starters.

Did you learn nothing from OIF? Perhaps that bombs, napalm, and tanks are poor methods to get people to see the value of American principles?

If you think getting people to see the value of American principals was the purpose of OIF then you're a bleeding heart idiot.

Can't you think of one Democrat that would change the direction of the Party from the Neo-Liberal trajectory they are on to something more constructive?

I already did and I gave you her name.

She however is "Just a republican plant!!" because she's not game for the "Fuck white people!!" brand of politics the (D)'s have fully embraced and double downed on.

So I don't hold much hope for Tulsi the Teahaddist in the DNC....I bet she's an (R) before the DNC finds her to be any more than shit on their shoes.

You are just emulating the people you despise by adopting their tactics of deception and obstruction.

What deceptions and obstruction??

I'm not a Democrat...

 

[phrodeau]

(edited)
If you think getting people to see the value of American principals was the purpose of OIF then you're a bleeding heart idiot.

The bleeding heart idiot George W. Bush sure thought so in his speeches at the time.

The United States, with other countries, will work to advance liberty and peace in that region. Our goal will not be achieved overnight, but it can come over time. The power and appeal of human liberty is felt in every life and every land. And the greatest power of freedom is to overcome hatred and violence, and turn the creative gifts of men and women to the pursuits of peace.

That is the future we choose. Free nations have a duty to defend our people by uniting against the violent. And tonight, as we have done before, America and our allies accept that responsibility.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The bleeding heart idiot George W. Bush sure thought so in his speeches at the time.

Ohhhh was that supposed to get me riled up at the defense of R?!?!?!

LOL I'm not as partisan as you phro...I don't care.

 

[JackLuis]

DNC Sucks soooo bad!

Team Bernie: Hillary ‘F*cking Ignored’ Us in Swing States

Ever since election night—when Hillary Clinton tanked and Donald Trump became the next leader of the free world—the most prominent allies and alumni of Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign have maintained a succinct message for Team Hillary: We. Told. You. So.

In the final months of the brutal and chaotic 2016 campaign, there were plenty of Democratic activists freaking out about Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania (the three states that ultimately cost the Democrats the White House) and Clinton’s fatal shortcomings there. Many of them were envoys of the Sanders camp who wanted to help fix those problems, including Clinton’s difficulties with the block of the mythical “white-working-class,” economically anxious voters who Sanders had championed during the primaries.