No More Periods.

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Has Science finally perfected the model "woman"? Slight chemical re-adjustment.


Pill That Eliminates the Period Gets Mixed Reviews


By STEPHANIE SAUL
Published: April 20, 2007

For many women, a birth control pill that eliminates monthly menstruation might seem a welcome milestone.

But others view their periods as fundamental symbols of fertility and health, researchers have found. Rather than loathing their periods, women evidently carry on complex love-hate relationships with them.

This ambivalence is one reason that a decision expected next month by the Food and Drug Administration has engendered controversy. The agency is expected to approve the first contraceptive pill that is designed to eliminate periods as long as a woman takes it. Doctors say they know of no extra risk to the new regimen, but some women are uneasy about the idea.

“My concern is that the menstrual cycle is an outward sign of something that’s going on hormonally in the body,” said Christine L. Hitchcock, a researcher at the University of British Columbia. Ms. Hitchcock said she worries about “the idea that you can turn your body on and off like a tap.”
That viewpoint is apparently one reason some already available birth control pills that can enable women to have only four periods a year have not captured a larger share of the oral contraceptive market.

“It’s not an easy decision for a woman to give up her monthly menses,” said Ronny Gal, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein & Company.

But if the new pill, called Lybrel, is approved, Mr. Gal predicts an onslaught of advertising meant to persuade women to do just that. The drug’s maker, Wyeth, said yesterday that it was expecting F.D.A. approval in May, but has declined to discuss its marketing plans.

The company’s research shows that nearly two-thirds of women it surveyed expressed an interest in giving up their periods. That dovetails with the findings of similar research conducted by Linda C. Andrist, a professor at MGH Institute of Health Professions in Boston.


“We don’t want to confront our bodily functions anymore,” Ms. Andrist said. “We’re too busy.” Doctors say they know of no medical reason women taking birth control pills need to have a period. The monthly bleeding that women on pills experience is not a real period, in fact.

And studies have found no extra health risks associated with pills that stop menstruation, although some doctors caution that little research has been conducted on long-term effects.

The topic has, however, inspired an hourlong documentary by Giovanna Chesler, “Period: The End of Menstruation?,” currently screening on college campuses and among feminist groups.

Ms. Chesler, who teaches documentary making at the University of California, San Diego, said she became concerned about efforts to eliminate menstruation when she first heard about the idea several years ago.
“Women are not sick,” she said. “They don’t need to control their periods for 30 or 40 years.”

The subject has also ignited a debate within the Society for Menstrual Cycle Research, a scientific organization that studies both the medical and social science of menses.

In 2003, the group issued a position statement saying that more research was needed before women could make an informed choice about using pills that suppress their periods. That statement could be revised at the group’s meeting scheduled for Vancouver, British Columbia, in June.

Ms. Hitchcock, a director of the organization, said that although some research has been comforting, she remained concerned that medical science did not fully understand the long-term implications of interrupting women’s periods. The same hormones that work on the menstrual cycles act in the brain, bones and the skin, she said.

“You need to think about whether there are consequences we don’t know about for the whole body,” said Ms. Hitchcock, who is with the Center for Menstrual Cycle and Ovulation Research.

There has also been a backlash among groups that celebrate the period as a spiritual or natural process, like the California-based Red Web Foundation. “The focus of our group is to create positive attitudes toward the menstrual cycle; suppressing it wouldn’t be positive,” said Anna C. Yang, a holistic nurse and executive director of the organization.

Eliminating menstruation is not a completely new concept. Women who take any kind of oral contraceptive do not have real periods.
Because the hormones in pills stop the monthly release of an egg and the buildup of the uterine lining, there is no need for the lining to shed — as occurs during true menstruation.

Still, since the advent of oral contraceptives in 1960, birth control pills typically have been designed to mimic the natural 28-day menstrual cycle to assure women using the pill that their bodies were functioning normally. The pills are usually packaged as regimens of 21 days of hormone pills and 7 inactive pills. The interruption of hormone therapy during the inactive part of the regimen induces bleeding that resembles a mild period but is, in fact, caused by unstable hormone levels.
 
I think protesting is silly as there's no one going to force women to take this particular pill and stop their periods. However, I do think this point is well taken:
Pure said:
Ms. Hitchcock, a director of the organization, said that although some research has been comforting, she remained concerned that medical science did not fully understand the long-term implications of interrupting women’s periods. The same hormones that work on the menstrual cycles act in the brain, bones and the skin, she said.
I think they should do more reasearch on the side-effects and long-term effects. If they get nothing worse than with any other birth-control pill, then I see no problem with it.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
Oh, it's not nice to fool Mother Nature!
Seriously. That could be one gigantic bitch-slap waiting to happen.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
Oh, it's not nice to fool Mother Nature!

This could be a marvelous thing for women, honestly.

More important than Viagra for men. :rolleyes:

I hope they are able to further the research in this area.
 
These women who celebrate their menses as a Natural Thing are forgetting someting (Many of them never knew this)

Our menstrual cycle used to be;
Just beginning,
Pregnant,
Nursing full time (which arrests menstruation for quite a while)
One or two periods,
untill we're knocked up again.

This is the first time in history that women have had periods every single month, year-in-year-out, and it is not natural.

I remember reading about the doctor who developed the birth control pill. He was Catholic, and his initial objective was to allow Catholic couples a way to make the Rhythm Method more secure. He created the pill to mimic the monthly cycle for that reason, and that reason alone. He was devastated when the Church refused to permit his method, and eventually left the Catholic church.

Since then, there have been several versions that create a menstrual shedding every three or even four months.
The researchers that worked on these projects say that the biggest reason for Breast Cancer is the estrogen/progesterone "tidal surge" that occurs each month with menstruation. We weren't meant to undergo it over and over.
I seem to recall as well, that in studies, pre-cancerous cysts in the breasts diminished and even disappeared in women who tested these longer-period birth contorl methods.

(All of this was from a New Yorker article some years ago, someone else will have to google if they want- I'm too ADD today)
 
Stella_Omega said:
These women who celebrate their menses as a Natural Thing are forgetting someting ...

This is the first time in history that women have had periods every single month, year-in-year-out, and it is not natural.
So true!
 
Stella_Omega said:
These women who celebrate their menses as a Natural Thing are forgetting someting (Many of them never knew this)

Our menstrual cycle used to be;
Just beginning,
Pregnant,
Nursing full time (which arrests menstruation for quite a while)
One or two periods,
untill we're knocked up again.

This is the first time in history that women have had periods every single month, year-in-year-out, and it is not natural.

I remember reading about the doctor who developed the birth control pill. He was Catholic, and his initial objective was to allow Catholic couples a way to make the Rhythm Method more secure. He created the pill to mimic the monthly cycle for that reason, and that reason alone. He was devastated when the Church refused to permit his method, and eventually left the Catholic church.

Since then, there have been several versions that create a menstrual shedding every three or even four months.
The researchers that worked on these projects say that the biggest reason for Breast Cancer is the estrogen/progesterone "tidal surge" that occurs each month with menstruation. We weren't meant to undergo it over and over.
I seem to recall as well, that in studies, pre-cancerous cysts in the breasts diminished and even disappeared in women who tested these longer-period birth contorl methods.

(All of this was from a New Yorker article some years ago, someone else will have to google if they want- I'm too ADD today)
Interesting. I like it when I honestly learn something new, especially when it's about something I previously believed as gospel truth.
 
sweetsubsarahh said:
This could be a marvelous thing for women, honestly.

More important than Viagra for men. :rolleyes:

I hope they are able to further the research in this area.

I know, but sometimes I'm a smartass. I was just quoting the TV commercial for some kind of margarine.
 
Another element that hasn't been mentioned is the risk of breast cancer induced by Estrogen. I googled this and found a whole body of conflicting studies - some say yes, some no.

The fact is, this pill isn't anything new. Birth control pills have been on the market for decades and they all contain Estrogen in small amounts - gee, it's the active ingrediant. This new pill has a higher dose - that's what stops your period. Yeas ago there was one called Ova-Provane or something like that. It always blocked esteris and was eventually removed from the market for the very reason that it was thought it could contribute to breast cancer.

Someone needs to think about the efficacy of this. Nice to not have to put up with your "Monthly Visitor", but not so nice having to deal with a mastectomy fifteen years from now.
 
For some people, this pill would be a godsend. My best friend has PolyCystic Ovarian Syndrome,and for her, ovulation is pure agony every month. She's been on birth control for it for years.

On the other hand, my natural cycle is one period every three months. Birth control pills, when I took them, made my body so completely out of balance that I was sick constantly, and had some mental issues as well as more mild symptoms- hot flashes, night sweats, morning sickness, spotting, etc. I just didn't react well to them, and therefore it was decided that it was better for the manchild to get cut than try and rotate through another ten or twelve dosages trying to find one we could all live with. (Not to mention, he's a slut, and I really had no desire for some stranger to show up at my door claiming him to be a father of her child.)

I don't know how I feel about this. I think it's like most things- good for a certain percentage of the population, but not right for everyone.
 
I just get a kick out of the fact that Pure put a period at the end of "No More Periods". :D

Other than that, interresting post by Stella. Never thought of that.
 
Still, since the advent of oral contraceptives in 1960, birth control pills typically have been designed to mimic the natural 28-day menstrual cycle to assure women using the pill that their bodies were functioning normally. The pills are usually packaged as regimens of 21 days of hormone pills and 7 inactive pills. The interruption of hormone therapy during the inactive part of the regimen induces bleeding that resembles a mild period but is, in fact, caused by unstable hormone levels.

No wonder my body was so much happier when I wasn't taking the damn things. My natural cycle is NOT 28 days. Nor is it exactly anything - 32-36 days.
I've often thought the pill was as much about convenience as contraception.

Good points Stella. I've often wondered how women in the past dealt with the monthlies, never actually thought it through properly though.
 
Hand it over, I'm fucking sick of being laid up for three days every damn month because of the pain - turning drip white, chucking your guts up and being dependant on stupidly strong painkillers sucks.

That reminds me, need to chase up my scan date.
 
Stella_Omega said:
These women who celebrate their menses as a Natural Thing are forgetting someting (Many of them never knew this)

Our menstrual cycle used to be;
Just beginning,
Pregnant,
Nursing full time (which arrests menstruation for quite a while)
One or two periods,
untill we're knocked up again.

This is the first time in history that women have had periods every single month, year-in-year-out, and it is not natural.

I remember reading about the doctor who developed the birth control pill. He was Catholic, and his initial objective was to allow Catholic couples a way to make the Rhythm Method more secure. He created the pill to mimic the monthly cycle for that reason, and that reason alone. He was devastated when the Church refused to permit his method, and eventually left the Catholic church.

Since then, there have been several versions that create a menstrual shedding every three or even four months.
The researchers that worked on these projects say that the biggest reason for Breast Cancer is the estrogen/progesterone "tidal surge" that occurs each month with menstruation. We weren't meant to undergo it over and over.
I seem to recall as well, that in studies, pre-cancerous cysts in the breasts diminished and even disappeared in women who tested these longer-period birth contorl methods.

(All of this was from a New Yorker article some years ago, someone else will have to google if they want- I'm too ADD today)

I remember reading something along those lines which also suggested that our increased number of menses over a lifetime (due to longer lifespans and later and further apart pregnancies) caused damage and scarring to the ovaries.

I'd be inclined to wait for more long-term studies, but I do feel that had this been available and well researched earlier, I probably would have gone for it until I felt ready to have children. Would have saved me the whole passing out and falling down the stairs experience back in high school :rolleyes:
 
Just-Legal said:
Hand it over, I'm fucking sick of being laid up for three days every damn month because of the pain - turning drip white, chucking your guts up and being dependant on stupidly strong painkillers sucks.

That reminds me, need to chase up my scan date.

That was me, until both the Pill and childbirth. I'd have been all over that med. When on the Pill, I thought it was nice being able to depend on my period arriving the same time, every time. Even if it wasn't a real period.
 
My daughter would volunteer for "long term studies" I am sure. Like Just Legal, and Cerise, and Tony, her periods are so painful that she misses two days of school a month. And why should any of us have to put up with the mood swings of menses? it's not anything I'd do for fun. I can think of entire days of my life that I'd love to live over again without the hormones.
 
Stella_Omega said:
My daughter would volunteer for "long term studies" I am sure. Like Just Legal, and Cerise, and Tony, her periods are so painful that she misses two days of school a month. And why should any of us have to put up with the mood swings of menses? it's not anything I'd do for fun. I can think of entire days of my life that I'd love to live over again without the hormones.
Ah, but there's the rub - so to speak.

The opposite of "mood swings" is an emotional flatness and depression that - for me - makes life dull and and - lifeless.

I don't have too much in the way of pain or discomfort, or perhaps I should say that the pain/discomfort is livable when compared to the mind-numbing effects of the pill.

Some women seem to have an anti-depressant effect from the pill. For me, it's more of a flattening from both above and below, with too much of it from above.

I've been off of the pill for more than five years. I have serious mood swings but with coping mechanisms for the lows, the highs are worth it.

Of course, all of this is possible because of the "luxury" of infertility. For a woman who needs to be on the pill for contraceptive (or other) reasons, I would encourage her to consider switching to full-time pills.

If you can tolerate the pill, go for it.
 
I was on the pill for a year or so and it didn;t seem to do much for my PMT symptoms so at the beginning of this year I came off it. My libido instantly soared but, unfortunately, so did PMT depression, bad skin, general inability to cope - I was a mess. I might have tolerated this for a while to see if my body calmed down again, but I didn't have the time - I have my finals this year. OS I went back on the pill and along with all the other things, my libido has vanished. like a bubble popping. Ping.

For the two months I was off the pill I wrote loads of stories, haven't written one since I went back on it.
I can;t wait to finish my exams then try coming off it again. I'm not looking forward to the negatives, but they will totally be worth it to get my libido back...
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Stella_Omega said:
My daughter would volunteer for "long term studies" I am sure. Like Just Legal, and Cerise, and Tony, her periods are so painful that she misses two days of school a month. And why should any of us have to put up with the mood swings of menses? it's not anything I'd do for fun. I can think of entire days of my life that I'd love to live over again without the hormones.

Amen.

I've been on the "normal" pill (about four or five types of the damn thing). They didn't agree with me. I'm worrying now if this is licsensed and available it won't either. *sigh*
 
I'm sorry to hear the terrible adverse reactions some of you have gotten while on the pill :rose: . When I was on it, I barely noticed any effects at all except for a little less of appetite, much less pain, and lighter periods.
 
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