Non consensual scenes between women

[louisa25ha]

Non concensual sex is abhorent in any form in my book... In fiction/in real life.... Please dont glorify it....

Louisa

 

[okatty35]

There is a "Women who like to be taken forcefully" thread -- maybe you won't get bitched at on that one!

 

[Stella_Omega]

I don't glorify it, louisa, but I do know that it's part of my fantasy life.

 

[Safe_Bet]

I have no other account, I'm just a reader... any mod can look at my ip and confirm this.

In fact the only thing that drives me to post is to mock how big of a cunt you are lmao. I honestly can't believe it, it's hilarious.

Nice avoidance of the facts though, well done.

Right, dude... Sure... Whatever...

I'm sure just EVERYBODY is buying that line!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Pot::kettle

You are the one "commanding" people as to what they should or should not do, "Queeny". I'm not telling you that you can't/shouldn't enjoy the "fictional" RAPE, degradation and abuse of another person, I'm just saying call it what it really is and that I think you are scum for enjoying it.

I'll own my part, why can't you own yours?

ROFLMAO!

This comment is a treasure, it's going directly into my "confused thought process" file.

 

[branch83]

Right, dude... Sure... Whatever...

I'm sure just EVERYBODY is buying that line!

Lmao, I could care less what an old cunt like yourself thinks. If a mod has time they can check for themselves, In the meantime I'm just enjoying laughing at you.

All I know is that a person is statistically much more likely to enjoy a "sick" fantasy like rape than they are to be a homosexual... and I don't find either disturbing.

No one is advocating rape as ok in real life... but who the fuck are you to judge someones fantasies? Maybe we should go back to the good old days where everyone thought homosexuality was sick because it wasn't the "norm" or "acceptable"

Boy that was a great time, eh?

 

[Safe_Bet]

I don't glorify it, louisa, but I do know that it's part of my fantasy life.

ROFLMAO!

This comment is a treasure, it's going directly into my "confused thought process" file.

What's confusing, Stella? You fit the profile of a Power Rapist perfectly.

"Power rape

For these rapists, rape becomes a way to compensate for their underlying feelings of inadequacy and feeds their issues of mastery, control, strength, authority and capability. The intent of the power rapist is to assert their competency. The power rapist relies upon verbal threats, intimidation with a weapon, and only uses the amount of force necessary to subdue the victim.

The power rapists tends to have fantasies about sexual conquests and rape. They may believe that even though the victim initially resists them, that once they overpower their victim, the victim will eventually enjoy the rape. The rapist needs to believe that the victim enjoyed what was done to them, and they may even ask the victim to meet them for a date later.

Because this is only a fantasy, the rapist does not feel reassured for long by either their own performance or the victim's response. The rapist feels that they must find another victim, convinced that this victim will be "the right one".

Hence, their offenses may become repetitive and compulsive. They may commit a series of rapes over a short period of time. This is the most common type of rapist in the United States.[2]"
Quote courtesy of Wiki

 

[Stella_Omega]

Oookay then. Thinking is doing, huh-- that's the mind police philosophy in a nutshell. And that's not my philosophy at all.

Considering how often you accuse other people of exactly the thing that you do by the way, I'm afraid this description

compensate for their underlying feelings of inadequacy and feeds their issues of mastery, control, strength, authority and capability. The intent of the power rapist is to assert their competency. The power rapist relies upon verbal threats...

says a hell of a lot about you.

The entire passage though, has nothing to do with actual fantasies. Even though you found the word the word "fantasy" is in it-- your reading comprehension is falling apart. You need to read more carefully if you want to mount devastating arguments against your (manufactured in your own mind) enemies.

And you know, your mind reading skills are mighty rusty if you think that I only fantasize about being the rapist.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Oookay then. Thinking is doing, huh-- that's the mind police philosophy in a nutshell. And that's not my philosophy at all.

Considering how often you accuse other people of exactly the thing that you do by the way, I'm afraid this description says a hell of a lot about you.

The entire passage though, has nothing to do with actual fantasies. Even though you found the word the word "fantasy" is in it-- your reading comprehension is falling apart. You need to read more carefully if you want to mount devastating arguments against your (manufactured in your own mind) enemies.

And you know, your mind reading skills are mighty rusty if you think that I only fantasize about being the rapist.

So what you are saying is that having RAPE fantasizes and having RAPE FANTASIZES is somehow different???

Want to explain this line to me???

"The power rapists tends to have fantasies about sexual conquests and rape."

as opposed to this one?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stella_Omega
I don't glorify it, louisa, but I do know that it's part of my fantasy life.

 

[boredVAwife]

It happens in prisons all the time, boredVAwife.

 

[Stella_Omega]

So what you are saying is that having RAPE fantasizes and having RAPE FANTASIZES is somehow different???

Want to explain this line to me???

"The power rapists tends to have fantasies about sexual conquests and rape."

Yes, I said that you noticed the word "fantasy" in the article, and jumped on that. But the article isn't about rape fantasies, it's about rapists.

False correlation;

Lions eat meat.
Many people eat meat.
Therefore, people are lions.

ETA: here's the article you might have been looking for;

sexual fantasy

 

[Safe_Bet]

Yes, I said that you noticed the word "fantasy" in the article, and jumped on that. But the article isn't about rape fantasies, it's about rapists.

False correlation;

Lions eat meat.
Many people eat meat.
Therefore, people are lions.

ETA: here's the article you might have been looking for;

sexual fantasy

Nice try Stella, but you aren't gonna put words in MY mouth. The article is about rapists. The parts I highlighted are about rape fantasizes. Get it now???

So then let's try a much more accurate correlation:

Rapists have rape fantasizes.
Stella has rape fantasizes.
Amy thinks anyone who has fantasizes about rape is disgusting.
Therefore, Amy thinks Stella is disgusting!

See! That one's perfectly correct!

 

[branch83]

Nice try Stella, but you aren't gonna put words in MY mouth. The article is about rapists. The parts I highlighted are about rape fantasizes. Get it now???

So then let's try a much more accurate correlation:

Rapists have rape fantasizes.
Stella has rape fantasizes.
Amy thinks anyone who has fantasizes about rape is disgusting.
Therefore, Amy thinks Stella is disgusting!

See! That one's perfectly correct!

So 31-57% (a definite low ball figure btw) of women are disgusting now? lmao... you can't be serious.

Get over yourself.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Stella has rape fantasizes.
Amy thinks anyone who has fantasizes about rape is disgusting.
Therefore, Amy thinks Stella is disgusting!

See! That one's perfectly correct!

That one is perfectly correct--
it's a statement about Amy's opinions, and I absolutely trust Amy to know her own opinions.



However, I don't expect her to back them up with reason, facts, or analysis, or argue cogently. Abusive language is not argument.

 

[Safe_Bet]

That one is perfectly correct--
it's a statement about Amy's opinions, and I absolutely trust Amy to know her own opinions.



However, I don't expect her to back them up with reason, facts, or analysis, or argue cogently. Abusive language is not argument.

Sure, Stella... Just like I change people quotes like you just did, right???

NOT so nice try, hon. You're just making yourself look petty and stupid.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Sure, Stella... Just like I change people quotes like you just did, right???

NOT so nice try, hon. You're just making yourself look petty and stupid.

Nice try, Amy. But since your post is right there, just above mine, in plain view, anyone can tell that I didn't change a thing.

I quoted part of your post, sure-- the part I thought was worth quoting.
But your first statement had nothing to do with your last one. Shall I explain why it didn't? Or are you smart enough to figure that out on your own?

 

[PricelessT]

I don't understand the attitude, other than your being friends with Safe_Bet. Do you think rape in prison only happens between males? Have you never heard of it happening between females in such a setting? I can provide reliable sources showing just that. But just Googling "Female-female rape" will pull up some results for you. There are reality television prison shows that discuss it. And it doesn't just happen in prisons either, as the book Violent Betrayal: Partner Abuse in Lesbian Relationships by Dr. Claire M. Renzetti demonstrates. And while female-female rape happens more so in prison than outside of prison, it does happen. Do you think that women don't rape at all? While it is significantly more common that a man is a rapist, and data on female rapists is quite low, women can be rapists too. There are even cases of women raping men. Not statutory rape cases, but the rape of males who are biologically and legally men (18 and up).

 

[boredVAwife]

I don't understand the attitude, other than your being friends with Safe_Bet. Do you think rape in prison only happens between males? Have you never heard of it happening between females in such a setting? I can provide reliable sources showing just that. But just Googling "Female-female rape" will pull up some results for you. There are reality television prison shows that discuss it. And it doesn't just happen in prisons either, as the book Violent Betrayal: Partner Abuse in Lesbian Relationships by Dr. Claire M. Renzetti demonstrates. And while female-female rape happens more so in prison than outside of prison, it does happen. Do you think that women don't rape at all? While it is significantly more common that a man is a rapist, and data on female rapists is quite low, women can be rapists too. There are even cases of women raping men. Not statutory rape cases, but the rape of males who are biologically and legally men (18 and up).

Ok let me rephrase my statement. I cannot see an otherwise normal minded woman raping another woman. At any rate I didn't ask for your opinion of my attitude and give less than two shits whether you like it or not.

 

[PricelessT]

Okay, whatever. Nice way to start trash with someone who never had a problem with you to begin with. I guess you're one of those "You got a problem with one of my friends, then you got a problem with me" posters.

But for the record: If a person is being rude to another person, then of course the person who the rudeness was directed at is likely to call it out as rude. Happens all the time on the Internet and in real-life. If I feel someone is giving me attitude for correcting them on something, I shouldn't call it out as an attitude? Yeah, not going to happen with me. But now I see why you are always so lenient on Safe_Bet's horrid behavior.

 

[boredVAwife]

I said I cannot see a woman raping another woman. Period. My personal feelings. Period. Does that make it the gospel? Of course not. My personal feelngs. Am I the end all of sexual crimes knowledge? No. My personal feelings. 40+ yrs after we went to the moon we still cannot get a car to get 50 miles to the gallon and not cost as much as my folks paid for their house. Hell for all I know the lunar landing happened on a soundstage in Hollywood. I think we went to the moon but that doesn't mean I know it to be a fact. My personal feeling. Maybe women do rape other women but I just don't understand how, so it was (say it with me class) MY PERSONAL FEELING. So if you did not like the roll eyes and think that was attitude, wow roll with me for a little while and you might see real attitude. Either way I give a shit whether you care for my attitude or not. And for the record so that all may know. I have never met SB. Have not chatted with her at length let alone gotten personal i.e. friends. And even if I were (all together now) I give less than a shit whether you like my attitude or not

EDIT: As a matter of fact I am the kind of woman that will walk straight into hell with and for a friend. Don't like that then re read the last line of the above paragraph.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Okay, whatever. Nice way to start trash with someone who never had a problem with you to begin with. I guess you're one of those "You got a problem with one of my friends, then you got a problem with me" posters.

But for the record: If a person is being rude to another person, then of course the person who the rudeness was directed at is likely to call it out as rude. Happens all the time on the Internet and in real-life. If I feel someone is giving me attitude for correcting them on something, I shouldn't call it out as an attitude? Yeah, not going to happen with me. But now I see why you are always so lenient on Safe_Bet's horrid behavior.

Jeebus! All these Alts of one or two fucking asshat dudes are REALLY getting on my nerves!

(Psssss... Hey BoredVAWife... Even though we often disagree and bonk heads, I'm sorry that this asshat's alt is trying to damn you by association. HE obviously doesn't have anything else and even more obviously has a "few" control & inadequacy issues).

 

[PricelessT]

I said I cannot see a woman raping another woman. Period. My personal feelings. Period.

It's not like it was clear that you were saying you don't understand how a woman can rape another woman, if that's all you were saying. It seemed like you were saying that women don't rape women...ever; thus, I pointed out that it's not true that women don't rape women. Not just in response to you, but so that those who might have that same line of thinking can see that it's not true. I have that right.

If a person says "I don't believe in AIDS," for example, does that mean other posters shouldn't say that belief is wrong? I never stated that you can't believe what you want to believe. Some beliefs are meant to be challenged, however. It's not the same as having certain religious beliefs, and my saying you are wrong to believe that.

If you were simply saying that you don't understand how a woman can rape another woman, not that "women never rape women," then I apologize for offending you with my comment just before this one. My intention was only to inform you of something that I felt you did not know.

So if you did not like the roll eyes and think that was attitude, wow roll with me for a little while and you might see real attitude.

I doubt you could dish out anything worse than what Safe_Bet has dished out. And I'm not interested.

I have never met SB. Have not chatted with her at length let alone gotten personal i.e. friends.

And I never stated that. I was basically saying that you are Internet friends with her. You are one of the few on this board who get along with her. If you wouldn't categorize that as a friend, then I was off the mark. But you do seem to take her horrid personal attacks as no big deal, even in another thread where people were trying to explain to you why they dislike/hate Safe_Bet.

Jeebus! All these Alts of one or two fucking asshat dudes are REALLY getting on my nerves!

(Psssss... Hey BoredVAWife... Even though we often disagree and bonk heads, I'm sorry that this asshat's alt is trying to damn you by association. HE obviously doesn't have anything else and even more obviously has a "few" control & inadequacy issues).

Anyone with eyes (or even one) can see that I'm not an alternate account of anyone who dislikes you, and it's clear that neither of the others who have shown their detest for you are alternate accounts either. Especially Stella, who you also accused of being an alternate account. Face it already: You're just not very liked.

But it is fun when you call me a "he," even though it's abundantly clear that I am not a he. Not only have I displayed more knowledge about women and lesbian topics than you, I have also been a hell of a lot more lady-like than you (except for when it comes to speaking to you). If anyone is the "he" out of the two of us, it's a safe bet that it's your undereducated ass. I see above that you couldn't even cite power notions about rape right.

 

[branch83]

.... but but but she used a Wikipedia article! It might as well be fact... Especially when the part she highlighted has NO citation.... lmao.

Like I've said, the bitch is a complete and total idiot, but you shouldn't let it bother you T! Just laugh it off as I do, you'll be much better off! It's great comedy.

Lastly, I do find it cute that she still thinks all the people that dislike her are the same person lol. It's kind of that cute paranoia that you find in the rarest of cunts that can't accept the fact that they're not very well liked... they're always looking for excuses as to why... hahaha

 

[Stella_Omega]

Ok let me rephrase my statement. I cannot see an otherwise normal minded woman raping another woman..

True enough, but we aren't talking about normal minded anyone when we talk about rape.

And yes, women have raped other women, and have raped men. Not nearly the numbers that men do it, but it's not unknown...

EDIT: As a matter of fact I am the kind of woman that will walk straight into hell with and for a friend.

Not unless that friend can convince me there's a damn good reason for it. Otherwise, in my experience, you're falling into the pit while your good friend has taken two steps back and is waving bye-bye from the top of the hole.

 

[boredVAwife]

True enough, but we aren't talking about normal minded anyone when we talk about rape.

And yes, women have raped other women, and have raped men. Not nearly the numbers that men do it, but it's not unknown...

I will concede that it does happen and the key as you said is normal minded and not normal minded. I have seen the damage it causes and it just befuddles me that a woman could do it. I think there was a congressman or senator once that actually said something to the effect that if rape was inevitible just lie back and enjoy it. Not recently but I swear he said it. That is exactly the mind of a guy and not a girl in my thinking.