Not for Literotica

[caleb35]

I've had a slight problem recently trying to categorize a draft horror story. I've been going back and forth between Erotic Horror and Non-Erotic. I've previously whined about the issue in this thread.

I just started adding the draft to Literotica and I used the tags "murder" and "death," both of which seemed more than appropriate as the story has plenty of both. Apparently, you are not allowed to use those tags on Literotica I'm thinking that's the sign from God/Goddess that I needed in order to know that I shouldn't post it here. While I really want the readership numbers, it's barely an erotic work (it has sex but it's hardly a focus of the story) and Literotica is, after all, a site for erotica. Rather than try to shoehorn it, or make edits to it that I don't want to make, I'll post it only to AOOO.

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

 

[Duil2]

I've had a slight problem recently trying to categorize a draft horror story. I've been going back and forth between Erotic Horror and Non-Erotic. I've previously whined about the issue in this thread.

I just started adding the draft to Literotica and I used the tags "murder" and "death," both of which seemed more than appropriate as the story has plenty of both. Apparently, you are not allowed to use those tags on Literotica I'm thinking that's the sign from God/Goddess that I needed in order to know that I shouldn't post it here. While I really want the readership numbers, it's barely an erotic work (it has sex but it's hardly a focus of the story) and Literotica is, after all, a site for erotica. Rather than try to shoehorn it, or make edits to it that I don't want to make, I'll post it only to AOOO.

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

I think you should try publishing it on Literotica in EH. I published one recently where three women murdered three men at the end and it wasn’t erotic but it still seemed to be accepted ok. As for the tags. That's just to ensure that no snuff stories are submitted but there are other words you could use such as 'a life is ended' or 'grief' or 'fatal disease' etc.

 

[NotWise]

I've had a slight problem recently trying to categorize a draft horror story. I've been going back and forth between Erotic Horror and Non-Erotic. I've previously whined about the issue in this thread.

I just started adding the draft to Literotica and I used the tags "murder" and "death," both of which seemed more than appropriate as the story has plenty of both. Apparently, you are not allowed to use those tags on Literotica I'm thinking that's the sign from God/Goddess that I needed in order to know that I shouldn't post it here. While I really want the readership numbers, it's barely an erotic work (it has sex but it's hardly a focus of the story) and Literotica is, after all, a site for erotica. Rather than try to shoehorn it, or make edits to it that I don't want to make, I'll post it only to AOOO.

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

Unlikely Angels was 21 chapters in thirteen parts that I took off Literotica because the second half the story was going to take me a long time to write, the key mystery in the story was already explained, it wasn't Lit material, and the readership had declined to just a few dependable souls.

I thought then that just because you write something doesn't mean Lit is the best place to publish. I realized later that Lit readers can accept non-Lit material in ongoing stories without blinking. The length of time it would have taken to finish, and the chance that it wouldn't be finished, remained as good reasons for taking it down.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

Aside from TPTB refusing to publish my ideas on reforming the voting system, I’ve never had anything I felt I couldn’t publish here. I’m totally happy with the restrictions (actually I’d like a world where some of them were more stringent, but I digress).

I have stories here with murders. I have stories here with gunfights, FFS. I’ve not tried to use murder as a tag though.

 

[sijopunk]

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

Lol, yes! I spent six months on a story for the Jasmine Tea event, "My Boyfriend Is An Executioner." I suffered for those 6000 words. I despaired over them. I had six failed attempts before I got that one. But then it happened, and I came out with a story that I loved more than any other story I'd written (this will be true until I finish my next one).

But ... the sex scene at the end kept getting streamlined and toned down until it was barely a sex scene, just a few paragraphs.

So it's not getting posted to Lit. It's not a story that I want judged based on whether or not readers got off to it.

 

[StillStunned]

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

Nope. And I've written all kinds of stories, from pure strokers to erotic fantasy to grimdark fantasy and sci-fi to creepy stalkers to whimsical fairy tales and just plain non-erotic stuff. There are readers for anything.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

I have a partial story that was meant to be a funny, quick thing about a bad retail customer ("Karen") who turned out to be sexually frustrated, and was really a good person.

It has turned into a lesbian romance in which one person has autism. And it has no sex. A major subplot is about child-rearing.

I have no idea what would even be the market for this.

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't think it's a problem unless you eroticize the murder and death. It's fine to have murder and death in the story.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

• Kills a man by throwing him into a rock crushing machine
• Kills a man by hanging from a bridge over a railroad track and having the train hit him
• Kills a man by cremating him alive
• Kills a man and two women by crushing them in an overturned car

Those multiple scenes were all in a single story posted here, and they are among some of the tamer ones I have published on Lit in stories with no erotic content.

The context counts more than the content, so if you use tags such as "murder", and "death" you are placing too high of an emphasis on these acts rather than the scenes where they exist being contained within a broader context

 

[caleb35]

Thank you all for your comments. Seems to be a bit of a split decision here -- some think I can and should post it to Literotica anyway, and others have chimed in on works that they've decided aren't good fits for this website. I'll keep thinking on it for a while.

 

[anthrodisiac]

My guess is that they don't want to encourage people searching for snuff stories, so you'd want to prohibit the use of those tags. I imagine there are other tags that are banned: underage, beastility, etc.

Murder and death are fine, the key distinction is not eroticizing it, so if you aren't doing that, it should be fine (on those grounds). I believe there's a similar rule about sexualizing maiming, amputation, permanent bodily harm. I have a psycho-sexual torture story, guys gets chewed on, cut, tormented, but no lasting physical injuries. Those kinds of stories are perfectly normal in Erotic Horror (well, maybe not NORMAL, but common enough).

 

[Voboy]

Yep. I've written two stories, both finished and both very good, that I intended to post here and never will; one is mean-spirited and bleaker than I like, the other would work here with only a slight change that I'm nevertheless not interested in making.

I've started a few others that I've abandoned once I realized they were going in a non-Lit direction, and kicked out of another one involving a murder (only to change it to a different murder story, which has done quite well here). In full disclosure, I only post here.

 

[dirk2024]

I've had a slight problem recently trying to categorize a draft horror story. I've been going back and forth between Erotic Horror and Non-Erotic. I've previously whined about the issue in this thread.

I just started adding the draft to Literotica and I used the tags "murder" and "death," both of which seemed more than appropriate as the story has plenty of both. Apparently, you are not allowed to use those tags on Literotica I'm thinking that's the sign from God/Goddess that I needed in order to know that I shouldn't post it here. While I really want the readership numbers, it's barely an erotic work (it has sex but it's hardly a focus of the story) and Literotica is, after all, a site for erotica. Rather than try to shoehorn it, or make edits to it that I don't want to make, I'll post it only to AOOO.

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

I recently published an Erotic Horror story here for the Tainted Love event. https://www.literotica.com/s/a-serial-killer-romance
It's a crime drama about a serial killer who had a sexual flare to their killings. I was careful that there was no direct connection to the deaths, just the events up to, then after the actual death.

Feel free to ask here or DM me if you have any questions.

Here are the tags I used.

 

[EmilyMiller]

So it's not getting posted to Lit. It's not a story that I want judged based on whether or not readers got off to it.

My novel had precisely one fully-described sex scene at the very end. Even that is light brushstrokes. Most of the rest is suggestive, foreplay, then cut to parrots.

 

[anthrodisiac]

Lol, yes! I spent six months on a story for the Jasmine Tea event, "My Boyfriend Is An Executioner." I suffered for those 6000 words. I despaired over them. I had six failed attempts before I got that one. But then it happened, and I came out with a story that I loved more than any other story I'd written (this will be true until I finish my next one).

But ... the sex scene at the end kept getting streamlined and toned down until it was barely a sex scene, just a few paragraphs.

So it's not getting posted to Lit. It's not a story that I want judged based on whether or not readers got off to it.

My most recent transgender transformation story has no actual sex, just (potentially eroticized) descriptions of genital transformation. Sex was not the goal, eroticism was not the goal. A sappy, tender affirmation story was the goal. I doubt anybody but a handful of TF fetishists (like me! ) would find it erotic or a good masturbatory aid. But I still put it here, because it's part of my body of work as Anthy, and I wanted to bring some non-human awareness into the Transgender category, and try out some styles and themes I haven't explored in a while.

Like @StillStunned said, there's readers for everything. There's a whole Non-Erotic category that has a very devoted, albeit small, fan base. Share it here if you want to share it with your readers here, don't worry about whether it'll be judged differently because it's not sexy enough. If you don't, that's all right, too.

 

[EmilyMiller]

My novel had precisely one fully-described sex scene at the very end. Even that is light brushstrokes. Most of the rest is suggestive, foreplay, then cut to parrots.

For example:

—

Alice took the lamp to another side of the room and traced her fingertips over the flaking drywall. I could see scratch marks. I counted thirty eight. Suddenly I felt the urge, or even compulsion, to comfort her. It wasn't programming, it wasn't Father's conditioning, it was me. I wanted to reach out to this lonely woman. I wanted to help her. And... I wanted this for me. I needed comfort for me.

When I put my arms around Alice, she nestled her head against my breasts and sighed. Her body and mind were of a forty year old woman, but - just for those few moments - I could have been cradling a small girl. I wondered when she had last been hugged by a human.

Then Alice lifted her face, and our lips met, and everything else flowed naturally as if preordained. Our next kiss was deeper and more passionate, and my clothes and Alice's animal skins were soon in a commingled pile on the floor as we collapsed back onto the bed, me being careful not to crush her with my weight.

As I hung over Alice, propped up on arms planted either side of her face, she reached up and stroked my cheek. Then her hands moved down, caressing plastic, and metal, and then flesh again, as if she didn't much care which was which.

"I'll go super slow," I breathed, kissing Alice briefly, before making my way down her body to nestle between her parted legs. "You just tell me if there is a problem, if there is anything that doesn't feel right. It's all OK."

But she never said a word. Indeed for the next hour or so, the only noises Alice made were sighs, then squeals, then moans, in an ever escalating loop of arousal and release. And finally, with a contented yawn, she fell asleep, her cheek against my breast, and an arm wrapped limply around my torso.



I didn't feel the need to go on standby. Instead I lay cradling Alice, listening to her breathing, and thinking about both my situation and hers. As first light began to permeate the ancient shutters, Alice stirred. When she opened her eyes, it was with a startle, and then she relaxed; as if only slowly recalling the previous day's events.

"I'm sorry, I sometimes... when I wake up... I... I don't know where I am. You ever feel like that?"

 

[Bramblethorn]

My guess is that they don't want to encourage people searching for snuff stories, so you'd want to prohibit the use of those tags. I imagine there are other tags that are banned: underage, beastility, etc.

"baby" and anything containing it is banned as a tag, be that "babysitter" or "whore of babylon".

 

[AchtungNight]

Several of my stories are AO3 exclusive because Lit rejected them. It’s disappointing. I consider “Parting Gift”, “Mirror Match”, and “Senior Prom Swap Gangbang” among my best emotional works. There’s also a huge Star Wars story called “Jedi Survivor: A Bit of Fun” where I novelized a popular and critically acclaimed video game and injected polyamory plus a lot of fanfic elements that ended up working out great. But it didn’t meet Lit guidelines, so… Oh well, fans can read these stories on AO3.

 

[THBGato]

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

Yeah. I've got three (or, maybe, two and a premise) plot bunnies that I just don't think will work on Lit and/or would spoiled by the need to pick a category.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Yeah. I've got three (or, maybe, two and a premise) plot bunnies that I just don't think will work on Lit and/or would spoiled by the need to pick a category.

The category system on Lit is annoying. but I like bouncing off the walls of categories...

I wrote a great story in response to a writing prompt when I first found the AH. The prompt was "describe your first kiss from the other person's point of view"

At the time I hadn't noticed the ban on any under-18 sexual activity, so instead of interpreting it as 'a first kiss with someone that you have had, as an adult', I wrote a great story of teenage angst, with no sex because the kids get interrupted - and then I read the posting guidelines. It may not have sex but it's blatantly sexual.

So Lit will never see it. I might put it on AO3 sometime, though it wouldn't get more than a couple hundred views unless I throw a veneer of fandom over it.

Thing with Lit is there's an audience.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

Thank you all for your comments. Seems to be a bit of a split decision here -- some think I can and should post it to Literotica anyway, and others have chimed in on works that they've decided aren't good fits for this website. I'll keep thinking on it for a while.

This one had all the scenes mentioned above. It seems to fit just fine here.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

At the time I hadn't noticed the ban on any under-18 sexual activity, so instead of interpreting it as 'a first kiss with someone that you have had, as an adult', I wrote a great story of teenage angst, with no sex because the kids get interrupted - and then I read the posting guidelines. It may not have sex but it's blatantly sexual.

I don't understand this.

Underage characters can kiss and have sexual thoughts and urges in stories published on Lit. Half of my catalog and hundreds of other published stories would not be here otherwise.

Can you describe a hand-job or a girl getting fingered? No. But you can describe the frustrations, emotions, desires, and angst experienced by someone not yet 18. They can kiss, tease, fondle, and experiment without graphic detail or explicit sexual terminology being used.

 

[nice90sguy]

Tagging a story with “murder” seems a bit silly. Most porn sites tagging systems , including this one, are to help people find their turn-ons and kinks.

Lots of stories here, including some of mine , feature murder and death — as dramatic elements , not erotic ones.

I’ve written one story which I thought was “too good” for Literotica — I had the (slightly delusional) idea that I could get it published commercially .

I have a couple of stories that are based on Lewis Carrols documented lust for the 14 year old Lorina Liddell - a desire he almost certainly never acted on (and did not do so in my story either ). Obviously unpublishable here.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

I don't understand this.

Underage characters can kiss and have sexual thoughts and urges in stories published on Lit. Half of my catalog and hundreds of other published stories would not be here otherwise.

Can you describe a hand-job or a girl getting fingered? No. But you can describe the frustrations, emotions, desires, and angst experienced by someone not yet 18. They can kiss, tease, fondle, and experiment without graphic detail or explicit sexual terminology being used.

My understanding, from a bunch of AH threads, is that 'sexual thoughts' from or about anyone under 18 are not permitted - hence stories being rejected for having a guy fantasising in the shower.

So a simple mention of a kiss is OK, possibly a dry mention of certain activities having happened in the past, but detailed description of what an under-18 character wants to do and where their hands might be roaming, isn't. Certainly not if that's what the whole story is about.

 

[Katie_Mae]

I've had a slight problem recently trying to categorize a draft horror story. I've been going back and forth between Erotic Horror and Non-Erotic. I've previously whined about the issue in this thread.

I just started adding the draft to Literotica and I used the tags "murder" and "death," both of which seemed more than appropriate as the story has plenty of both. Apparently, you are not allowed to use those tags on Literotica I'm thinking that's the sign from God/Goddess that I needed in order to know that I shouldn't post it here. While I really want the readership numbers, it's barely an erotic work (it has sex but it's hardly a focus of the story) and Literotica is, after all, a site for erotica. Rather than try to shoehorn it, or make edits to it that I don't want to make, I'll post it only to AOOO.

Have any of you had a story that you liked but decided for whatever reason you just shouldn't or couldn't post to Literotica?

As others have mentioned, banned tags doesn't mean the subjects are banned.
The idea of tags is to help people find stories they're looking for, and this is a (mostly) erotic site. Enabling people to search for erotic stories about "big cock" is fine. Enabling people to search for erotic stories about "death" gives the impression of snuff, and snuff is against the site rules. Murder in a story is not, in itself, against the rules

You can, however, use a content warning. Given I've heard of the occasional time where Laurel has added a content warning in form of an editor's note to a story she thought needed it, I think it's safe to say that content warnings are perfectly allowed.

I have a story I recently wrote for lit that I decided not to publish here after all, because I'm not sure if it meets content guidelines. I asked four lit friends to read it and give me their opinion and they gave me four different answers.

It was a very short (800 words or so) horror story about a man who looks into a mirror at 3am and then gets trapped in the mirror, releasing the "mirror ghost" inside. There was one tiny aspect, about 100 words which was of concern.