not spoiling mrs deathlynx' remembrance thread.

[unpredictablebijou]

I have arrived! Because of my views I am labeled as an Alt. From what I've read here that means either as a newcomer I have hit a nerve or that you want to blame me on someone else. Am I right?

Rrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
And your screen name is pure coincidence.
I believe in leprechauns, too. And unicorns.

bijou

 

[matriarch]

I have arrived! Because of my views I am labeled as an Alt. From what I've read here that means either as a newcomer I have hit a nerve or that you want to blame me on someone else. Am I right?

Actually, I just want to stop reading your crap. So you've gone on ignore. Pretty good start.

Bye -bye.

 

[Patriot911]

News flash: Humans are capable of incredibly cruel acts. Religion doesn't make a whit of difference in that fact. And, guess what? You're just as human as anyone else, including people in the middle east, and just as capable of being cruel.

A religion that espouses death on the infidels has nothing to do with it at all?

Your reading comprehension needs work. I didn't wish death on you, I said I would be glad when you and those who think like you die out. Different thoughts, different words.

Work on that.

I admit you got me on that one. I admit it, I was trying to bait you.

 

[Patriot911]

Rrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
And your screen name is pure coincidence.
I believe in leprechauns, too. And unicorns.

bijou

Oh, the paranoia! This is great.

 

[cloudy]

A religion that espouses death on the infidels has nothing to do with it at all?

A religion that's full of "smiting" the heretics has nothing to do with it at all?

Oh, wait, that's Christianity, so that's different.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

*singing*

Cloudy's got a boyfriend.......Cloudy's got a boyfriend

 

[cloudy]

*singing*

Cloudy's got a boyfriend.......Cloudy's got a boyfriend

He wishes.

 

[Patriot911]

A religion that's full of "smiting" the heretics has nothing to do with it at all?

Oh, wait, that's Christianity, so that's different.

Not at all. I think you're under the misguided idea that I am religious. I know the christians aren't much better if you read the old testament. But didn't the changing of the guard in the new testament change all that?

 

[MagicaPractica]

*singing*

Cloudy's got a boyfriend.......Cloudy's got a boyfriend

Hmmm...


Cloudy, has he pulled your pigtails yet?

 

[Patriot911]

He wishes.

I think my wife might get mad at me if that were the case.

 

[ABSTRUSE]

why can't we just kill everybody and get along?

 

[Vermilion]

why can't we just kill everybody and get along?

<snerk>

 

[Patriot911]

If we did that who would we have to argue with? My opinions are just that, opinion. I'm personally done with the killing and such. That's why I retired from the military after my twenty.

 

[cloudy]

Not at all. I think you're under the misguided idea that I am religious. I know the christians aren't much better if you read the old testament. But didn't the changing of the guard in the new testament change all that?

Nope, just pointing out to you that they are just like us. We are the ones that decide what is "other" and therefore, what is to be feared. What humans fear, they try to destroy.

 

[neonlyte]

I have arrived! Because of my views I am labeled as an Alt. From what I've read here that means either as a newcomer I have hit a nerve or that you want to blame me on someone else. Am I right?

Don't take it personally... you're talking like several people we know, but your spelling is better.

I don't agree with your views but I do think the USA has been woefully complacent in exercising political and economic power. Military might is better reserved as a final option unless the one wielding the sword is prepared to go the whole hog. Fortunately those days are long past and we are still learning the rules of how to accommodate all minorities. It's a painful path but it beats the hell out of blood bath.

 

[Patriot911]

Nope, just pointing out to you that they are just like us. We are the ones that decide what is "other" and therefore, what is to be feared. What humans fear, they try to destroy.

Point to you. I just get really cranky this time of year. I have ever since '01.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

There are times when you cold, clinical mind leaves me utterly speechless.

I am so glad I don't have to live in your heart or your head.

...

...yeah.

 

[Patriot911]

Don't take it personally... you're talking like several people we know, but your spelling is better.

I don't agree with your views but I do think the USA has been woefully complacent in exercising political and economic power. Military might is better reserved as a final option unless the one wielding the sword is prepared to go the whole hog. Fortunately those days are long past and we are still learning the rules of how to accommodate all minorities. It's a painful path but it beats the hell out of blood bath.

I agree about the blood bath. Nasty things and the blood never gets out from under your nails.

 

[cloudy]

Point to you. I just get really cranky this time of year. I have ever since '01.

Why? Did you lose a loved one in the attacks?

I did. So did others, yet we don't scream for blood like you do.

 

[Brute_Force]

Declaring war on a named terrorist organisation was likely internationally iffy but a war on a noun or symbol couldn't really be argued against. Everyone already knew who represented the symbol. But capitalism can't declare war because it's an ideology, so before it could it had to have a champion. To be that champion the US had to be convinced to declare itself as that champion.

That was the bill of goods.
It wasn't that they don't like you personally. It wasn't that they hate your freedoms, you were there, you were huge and you were soft.

I completely agree with you. And, as I posted in another thread, I believe Michael Scheuer says it best in Imperial Hubris,

One of the greatest dangers for Americans in deciding how to confront the threat from al Qaeda lies in continuing to believe... Muslims hate us for what we think, rather than for what we do. We repeatedly hear: ( because they hate freedom ) from senior U.S. leaders. Such a conclusion is potentially fatal nonsense.

 

[Patriot911]

Why? Did you lose a loved one in the attacks?

I did. So did others, yet we don't scream for blood like you do.

I did not lose a loved one but I did lose a couple of distant friends. I apologize for my behavior to you.

And as I stated a post or two or three back it's just an opinion of mine. In all reality I am normally fairly "normal". I just happen to get maladjusted from time to time and let bad opinions out. Sort of a "Mental Tourette's" I suppose. The V.A. says it's fairly common.

 

[rgraham666]

You're right rgraham, he has won and the U.S. president used it as an excuse to invade Iraq.

We knew it was fundamentalist Islamic people who perpetrated the attack. We should have destroyed Mecca in retaliation. They broke our symbol, we should have shattered theirs and use the wreakage to rebuild ours. Then they would have to worship at our symbol.

So because a tiny number of nutbars who use Islam to excuse their evil actions, and not a major real action at that, we should kill millions of innocent people who had nothing to do with 9/11 and whose only correspondence with the nuts is their religion?

That's really fucked.

 

[rgraham666]

I don't think blowing up Mecca would have started WWIII. We have the most devestatingly powerful military machine in the history of mankind, in the US. We would have sparked anger, resentment, maybe some attacks, but the world would not have lined up on sides.

France wouldn't do much more than use the UN to wag a finger at us. Islamic militants would have declared a war upon us. But, it'd be a far cry from WWIII--certainly not on the terms the Cold War feared.

Truly. It would have given us the opportunity to retaliate to their retaliation and turn the Arabian Penninsula into glass. Which would have solved most of the problems. Cultural and Social Extinction isn't a popular idea, these days, but historically... that's how things go.

Good, fucking, Christ.

(Runs to the can to puke)

 

[cloudy]

I did not lose a loved one but I did lose a couple of distant friends. I apologize for my behavior to you.

And as I stated a post or two or three back it's just an opinion of mine. In all reality I am normally fairly "normal". I just happen to get maladjusted from time to time and let bad opinions out. Sort of a "Mental Tourette's" I suppose. The V.A. says it's fairly common.

Apology accepted. However, there's no medical excuse for hate, you know?

 

[unpredictablebijou]

Good, fucking, Christ.

(Runs to the can to puke)

RG, you and me both.

It's the kind of day for knocking off a little early, heading for a quiet place and sitting with a cool glass of stout, trying not to think or converse too much about anything important.

I'll be at AB's if anyone needs me.

bijou