Office Slut

[penguindance]

 

[Chicklet]

yup yup

 

[penguindance]

 

[penguindance]

 

[Tatewaki]

Sounds quite interesting. I hope Stranger and Chicklet manage to finish this one.

-T

 

[vargas]

Suppose they do stay late and inagurate his desk. Because she is older she can introduce him to all kinds of extra-sexual activities. Instruct and introduce him to cunnilingus and he becomes a master pussy eater. She becomes addicted to his tongue. She no longer gets satisfaction from anyone but him. First his tongue then his cock. She inturn becomes now the office prude giving noone any sex but him exclusively. He rises through the corporate ranks and she rises as his personal assistant. For major deals he sweetens the deal by allowing prospects to bed her. She does it for his career he becomes the youngest CEO she remains his sex slave even though he marries and has a family. She is rich and powerful and engineers a hostile takeover when she and her lesbian lover buy the majority stock and exercise thier option. He becomes their sex toy. They teach him new tricks and use him as sexual tender to sweeten big deals with the execs wives.

I like it like that, yeah keep writing

 

[Chicklet]

wow

blast from the past

i still have all the notes i wrote about the characters for this one...

Chicklet

 

[Diane Marie]

Re: Like this intro?

Do you like this intro? (Not a whole intro, I just wrote it this second really quick and I wonder if it's at all like what we might be looking for...)

I think your opening is a good start, Chicklet. Not only have you established Gina as beautiful woman, you’ve made her just a bit aloof. By the reference to her secretary you’ve also allowed her character to be powerful. A women who has choices, she makes them as she see fit.

I don’t see her as a slut, just a woman who knows what she likes and takes it. If she were a man, she’d be called a stud.

Strange how in the English language we have no term for a for a woman who know what she likes, takes it and has fun doing so, other then slut!

Go for it girl!

 

[fanzee1]

Re: Re: Like this intro?

I think your opening is a good start, Chicklet. Not only have you established Gina as beautiful woman, you’ve made her just a bit aloof. By the reference to her secretary you’ve also allowed her character to be powerful. A women who has choices, she makes them as she see fit.

I don’t see her as a slut, just a woman who knows what she likes and takes it. If she were a man, she’d be called a stud.

Strange how in the English language we have no term for a for a woman who know what she likes, takes it and has fun doing so, other then slut!

Go for it girl!

Oh please, cry me a fucking river.

A man who "knows what he likes and takes it" is usually referred to as arrogant and pigheaded. And if he does so sexually he may be called a rapist or a dom, depending on whether the woman on the receiving end is a willing participant.

And since you said there is no term for a woman who "knows what she likes, takes it and has fun doing so" other than slut, i'd like to know what you think these lovely terms are that we have for men who act in this way.

Some unsolicited advice. Grow up and quit clinging to victimhood. This is not Jane Austen's era, or even the 1970s. And i hate to have to be the one to break it to you but you are not -- merely because you're a woman anyway -- nearly as put upon as you would dearly love to believe so you are just going to have to find something or someone else to blame every time life doesn't give you exactly what you want.

And here's some more harsh reality for ya. In the world of erotic literature, people use words like slut, bitch, cumslut, cock-sucking whore, bitch, butch deisel dyke, pussy-whipped bitch, and big-dicked mother fucker. They use these words because they vividly reflect the sexual dynamics that exist in real life sexual relationships and in fantasies, even if they don't exist in your "according to feminist empowerment" playbook for how sex "should" be.

People who are familiar with me at Lit know that venomous posts like these don't come from me too often but few thing piss me off more than someone who sees a bunch of folks having fun w/something and feels the need to bring in their own (totally unsolicited) personal baggage in the guise of some high-minded political or moral agenda. And you didn't even have the decency to own up to what you were doing in your post, just passed it off as some cutesy note to Chicklet. Disgusting.

I have an idea for you. If you don't like the idea for a sexual power play that's being tossed back and forth on this thread, then why don't you get the hell off this thread. Go start your own thread where the women and men all respect each other as equals and never waver in their expression of that view all throughout their blissful lovemaking.

And if that doesn't work for you, then go burn a bra and read the Feminine Mystique one more time. Either way, save the self-righteous "evil men opress us with their words" crap. Nobody's buying here.


Good day,

-- fanzee1 (male chauvinist pig)

 

[Chicklet]

I know many "man-sluts"

Diane, thanks for your observation about Gina's lack of "sluttiness" - since the fact that she *is* a slut is important to the story, if I ever do write this all the way through I will change it so that it's more apparent that her problem is that she's loose.

Chicklet

 

[sirhugs]

On behalf of all men, I want to point out that fanzee only speaks for himself. He says " no one is buying", yeet some of us know that words have power.

I think there ARE words other than "slut" to describe sexually aggressive women ( ''adventurous" "amazonian" " polyamourous"
"libertine"), plus all the derogatory ones. I agree with Diane though, that the lack of really good terms reflects the historic double stamdard. Here's hoping we improve over time.

I would personally call this thread " Office temptress"

 

[fanzee1]

of course words have power. i take exception with her inserting her very personal politics on this subject into a forum about erotic fiction. I find that quite petty -- to the point of being absurd.

And i will ask again, what are all of these "really good terms" that describe sexually aggressive men?

On behalf of all men, I want to point out that fanzee only speaks for himself. He says " no one is buying", yeet some of us know that words have power.

I think there ARE words other than "slut" to describe sexually aggressive women ( ''adventurous" "amazonian" " polyamourous"
"libertine"), plus all the derogatory ones. I agree with Diane though, that the lack of really good terms reflects the historic double stamdard. Here's hoping we improve over time.

I would personally call this thread " Office temptress"

 

[DirtyWhore]

But who's to say "slut" is a bad word? I take pride in calling myself a slut, and I used the word "whore" in my screen name because of how raw it is.

Ever hear "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"? Well, the same is true when it comes to WORDS. They are derogatory or nice only if you let them be! It's up to you, and no one else, on how you take life.


~Dirty Whore

 

[Chicklet]

I would personally call this thread " Office temptress"

but "office slut" just sounds so much more fun!

 

[fanzee1]

i have to agree.

but "office slut" just sounds so much more fun!

 

[Guest]

And i will ask again, what are all of these "really good terms" that describe sexually aggressive men?

Exactly.

 

[sirhugs]

" Stud" is the big compliment. Also " cocksman" " cock of the walk" " big rooster" " swinging dick" ....

there is no question a double standard still exists about sexual freeness .

 

[Chicklet]

" Stud" is the big compliment. Also " cocksman" " cock of the walk" " big rooster" " swinging dick" ....

I'd have to smack anyone I heard ever using any of those phrases.

I've never heard "stud" used without a deep river of sarcasm behind it.

Chicklet

 

[sirhugs]

I'd have to smack anyone I heard ever using any of those phrases.

I've never heard "stud" used without a deep river of sarcasm behind it.

Chicklet

that's cause you hang out with people with class. Thunder bay is so backwoods we make the Deep South look enlightened.

 

[Guest]

I've never heard of these...

... " cocksman" " cock of the walk" " big rooster" " swinging dick" ....

And, I don't entirely believe this.

there is no question a double standard still exists about sexual freeness

 

[Chicklet]

remind me not to move there

 

[sirhugs]

remind me not to move there

but sweetie, I'm here!

 

[Diane Marie]

Originally posted by fanzee1
Oh please, cry me a fucking river.

A man who "knows what he likes and takes it" is usually referred to as arrogant and pigheaded. And if he does so sexually he may be called a rapist or a dom, depending on whether the woman on the receiving end is a willing participant.
Some unsolicited advice. Grow up and quit clinging to victimhood.

A man who "knows what he likes and gets it", is so much more of a man than one who can’t get it and has to take it. I wouldn’t say a man like yours is arrogant or pigheaded, just boring.

I’m far from a victim my dear boy, I’ve been very successful, successful in a career dominated by men I might add. Fearful I am not, I gave that career up, taking the risk to pursue what I love. Am I a feminist, very much so, should all women be so, they are stupid if they are not. You men don’t give, but we can and do take. Look around the world, I for one do not look good covered head to toe in black, MEN. I don’t want a child left in the garbage pit because she happens to be a girl child, MEN. This is a sexist world, so much less for those of us who happen to have been born in a western culture, but men didn’t make it less sexists, we made it so.

Are you this insecure in your masculinity. Do strong women characters scare you. Maybe my dear boy you’d better be the one to grow up. I said nothing whatsoever about men. My only reference to men, was the use of the word STUD, a small little reference to wishing there was a similar term for women, when did being called a STUD become a bad thing to men. Have we feminist emasculated you men that much? Personally I hope not, I like studly men, dominate, studly, men, the stallions of you lot, few and far between but rarity is such a wonderful thing.

Now back to my point the word SLUT. It is such a tiresome word, worn out completely. It can mean a thousand things, some bad, some good, to you men I’m afraid it envisions only one thing, we’re there for your taking. In a way that is so laughable, in male, female sexual relationships, we women have the choice, we pick, and most of us, if we care to do so, can pick whom we want and pick as often as we want. If I want to get laid, my dear boy, I can do so and I have the choice pickings. The word slut does not depict that, the word slut means I’m easy, all can have me. What’s even funnier is I or any women has the choice to do all of you, short of rape, it’s still our choice. Most men on the other hand may want to get laid, but most of the time your going to end up at home by yourself using your hand, that is unless one of "us sluts" picks you. I’m sure many men just hate that it is our choice, they’d much rather have it the other way around, well boys it’s not, eat your hearts out.

BlessedBe for you, stud, Lothario, Don Juan, Casanova, lover boy, lover, lady’s man, lady killer, just to name a few. Like most other words I could list some that are not so good, but there is a choice between good and bad. In that choice it makes the job of writing more accurate and descriptive. There really isn’t this range of choice when referring to a sexually liberated women.

It is a double standard. Do I blame you men, no not unless you’ve been around for most of the development of the English Language.

Now that I’m over my all men are assholes mood, thank you very much fanzee. I would like to point out, the negativity associated with words like slut, are as much, if not more, the fault of us women. We women, as a group, tend to be much more judgmental of other women then men are.

The truth of what I was trying to say was not really in the use of the word slut, I to use that word. I even understand where some of the women who say they like the idea of being a slut or slutty are coming from, but it’s hard to know for sure, that word just has to many meaning. At times I can be very sluttish, if changing partners often, picking men up, my choice, having lots of sex with different men is being a slut then I’ve been that. I can’t see that as a bad thing, it was who I was and what I wanted at that time, but I still don’t feel the word slut works.

My lover at times thinks I’m a slut, I love to flirt, I love to dress provocatively, at times I come on to others. How she means that depends on what I’ve done, if she jealous, I’m a bad slut, if what I’ve done arouses her then I’m a good slut. Am I upset as a woman writer of erotica that the only choices I have, have some negativity attached to them, you damn right I am. Erotic writing is not just for men who have a negative image of women, although you seem to think it is fanzee.

What I was trying to point out was I liked the possibilities of Chicklet’s character, she’d be strong, we women are strong, the choice of who to have sex with was hers. Her choice could have been every male in the building, but it’s her choice. I fully expect Chicklet to use the word slut in her story, it works better then most of the alternatives. Although I kind of like the word tart, I have my eyes on this cute little French tart at the present time. Eyes only, I have a lover. Yes fanzee, I’m a dyke, one who for the most part appreciates men.

I’ll further state when most of you men read the word slut, or some of your other more endearing words, bitch(another well worn word, with duel meanings) cumslut, cock-sucking whore, butch(some hetro women are very butch), deisel, dyke(sex with men?), (I’m editing out pussy-whipped bitch, pussy whipped refers to certain a type of men, one who very likely lives with a very butch hetro woman), you think of us as easy, we are an easy conquest for you, it’s that simple. Dream on hun, we are only as easy as we want to be. Even in a male Dom/Sub relationship, it’s her choice. I even know one males in a Dom/Sub relationship that would be so undom if it wasn’t for her it’s almost laughable. Oh well, love conquers all.

Hopefully I understand Chicklet’s use of the word sluttishness, maybe not, maybe she wants a nymphomaniac, if so surely change your character to one who has no choice. Personally I like the idea of her being successful and powerful, then making the choice to be sluttish, then choosing to be the office slut. I want her to be passionate, lustful, and willing to be lost in her own desires. Her power makes her choice totally wanton, there is no ulterior motive, no need for advancement, she gets her advancement on her own abilities. If she want to fulfill your fantasy out in the middle of the floor, fanzee, she’ll do so, but she’ll choose that course.

Another take would be she becomes a slut to advance, or trap the boss, both of those are about using sex for power. It happens, some women make that choice. Of course, that take on it leaves you out, fanzee, your just not that important, but she may just fuck your boss to get your job. You can always make her a typical slut, a nonentity, one who’ll fuck anybody for no reason at all, no real reason for a plot, why bother with character development, start her out in the janitors closet, then have her work her way up the line. Lots of fuck stories here at Lit like that. See I to use the word slut, I have no choice, it would be nice to have something more descriptive and much less able to be interpreted as a negative. Maybe I’m wrong Chicklet but I don’t think you see being a slut as a negative. Is "she's loose" a negative, it seems to me that it’s a choice.

The word just sucks, it is worn out, it lacks specific meaning. Your the office slut, if you cheat on your husband, your a slut, if you live with an I love to be cuckold man and cuckold him, your a slut, if you have an open relationship(swing), your a slut, if you go to a club dress and dance provocatively, your a slut, if you make love to another woman your a slut, fanzee want’s to use force, no choice, your a slut and I could go on.

As far as your reference to the word dyke being erotic, I suppose you’d feel the word nigger is erotic. Calling a lesbian a dyke, is like calling a black man a nigger, and yes like blacks do at time call themselves niggers, we to at times call ourselves dykes. Just to set the record straight calling me a dyke, if you care to, doesn’t really hurt badly, the throwing of the beer cans and bottles hurts so much worse.

Your right fanzee, I don’t know you, I don’t even care to know you. Talk about getting on a band wagon, I said nothing at all, you got on your hobby horse and took a ride. You tell me hun, where is stating "Strange how in the English language we have no term for a woman who know what she likes, takes it and has fun doing so, other then slut!" a political statement, your take on what I said is absurd, where on the other hand all you did was spout your sexual political agenda.

I could surely do as you’ve accused me of, "i take exception with her inserting her very personal politics on this subject into a forum about erotic fiction" which is exactly what you’ve done, not me. I’m sure, if I did, it would be some what feminist, much less then you may think when it comes to relationships and sex. I’ve always been of the opinion that the extreme feminists views of sex and male/female relationship is full of shit, but I also find some of your views full of shit. The thing is fanzee, I now know your views, where as with mine, other then stating the reality that the world is sexist, you haven’t got a clue. I did not express them nor did I insert them anywhere.

 

[fanzee1]

" Stud" is the big compliment. Also " cocksman" " cock of the walk" " big rooster" " swinging dick" ....

there is no question a double standard still exists about sexual freeness .

you actually hear people use those terms w/genuine respect in terms of sexual aggression? The only time I hear men referred to as studs these days, in sexual terms, is when a woman is talking about a man who does exactly what she likes sexually. It ain't exactly a merit badge for sexual aggression.


Any other time, it's just a goofy term used to be silly or sarcastic.

And anyway, the turn this thread has taken is the whole reason i flamed in her direction. We are now discussing political correctness on a thread that started out about fantasy stories involving sex and sexual power plays in the office. Miss professional victim just had to "strike a big blow for the cause" and run off. Now we're stuck to deal with it. This is a brainstorming session for erotic fiction, ok? PC police don't belong here. And this is coming from someone who generally supports political correctness.

 

[Diane Marie]

I know many "man-sluts"

Diane, thanks for your observation about Gina's lack of "sluttiness" - since the fact that she *is* a slut is important to the story, if I ever do write this all the way through I will change it so that it's more apparent that her problem is that she's loose.

Chicklet

I'm sorry you think I was trying to make Gina less slutty. That somehow I was trying to change your approach. I was not making a moral judgment on her, I even have my own office slut story, although it’s more real life and it only involves the boss.

I liked the possibilities of your story. I’m sorry you think I don’t want her to be a slut, if I understand what you mean by slut. I think I do.

Personally I felt you had a twist on the office slut that was both interesting and not done to death.