Office Slut

[BlackSnake]

...Now back to my point the word SLUT. It is such a tiresome word, worn out completely. It can mean a thousand things, some bad, some good, to you men I’m afraid it envisions only one thing, we’re there for your taking. In a way that is so laughable, in male, female sexual relationships, we women have the choice, we pick, and most of us, if we care to do so, can pick whom we want and pick as often as we want. If I want to get laid, my dear boy, I can do so and I have the choice pickings. The word slut does not depict that, the word slut means I’m easy, all can have me. What’s even funnier is I or any women has the choice to do all of you, short of rape, it’s still our choice. Most men on the other hand may want to get laid, but most of the time your going to end up at home by yourself using your hand, that is unless one of "us sluts" picks you. I’m sure many men just hate that it is our choice, they’d much rather have it the other way around, well boys it’s not, eat your hearts out....

You had so much to say here that I don't have the time right now to respond to all of it. As far as the above section goes, you're right. It maybe one of the reasons some wacked out guys try to keep women in check (abuse them).

When I was younger, I played the numbers game (100 to 1). Ask 100 girls and chances are that 1 will say yes. Thankfully, I've lived long enough to make friends and therefore, I don't have to rely on Rosey Thumb and her four finger sisters.

I don't much care if a woman turns her nose at me. It just doesn't matter any more. A lot of younger guys will always have a problem with this, and my dear....you are not making things any easier.

 

[fanzee1]

Yes, i challenged what you said, so clearly i must be insecure in my masculinity. i'm not the one who takes pot shots at the opposite gender in nearly every post i make diane marie.

i'm not your dear and i'm not a boy, but of course you know i am not a boy and are just attempting to use an age-old insult to get a rise out of me. Unfortunately, i have already seen enough about you in your posts to reasonably assume that you are such a poor specimen of womanhood, that any man would be a fool to give a damn whether you think he is a "real man."


I'll just skip all of the high-school history lesson you decided to give on feminism and get to what i think is the key issue of your post, the reason i flamed at you is not because of your politics or because you consider yourself a feminist. There are tons of women on this board who hiss at any man who sends a message in their direction and i have learned to move on and ignore them. The difference with you is, you chose to inject your notion about "if a man did etc." into a thread where people were brainstorming for erotic literature. Maybe in your world, relationships are made up of equals where the sexual dynamics don't involve any control by either party ever. Most of us, however, don't live in that world. And that means that when people sit down to write erotic fiction, there are power plays and caricatures of old societal norms, etc., etc., etc. that pop up. My interests lie in a wide range of fiction, not just the kind being discussed here. So my problem actually wasn't so much with what you said but where you chose to say it and why. I believe it was your intention, at least in part, to make people -- male and female -- feel bad about what turns them on. And, in short, who the fuck are you, the sex police?


So that explains my response. I could go into all of the rest of the stuff you spouted in your answer to my post, but really, why should I bother? It's just the same tired "you will not take my victimhood away from me" crap that any adult reading this has heard many times before. And I chastise you for using it not because many of the statements you make aren't factual (they indeed are) but because you used those statements for no reason other to claim moral high ground and try to win an argument, in much the same way as when you decided to throw the word NIGGER into your post to try to anger me when you saw from my AV that i had dark-brown skin.


Oh, and my favorite part of your post was this line: "I said nothing whatsoever about men." That's beautiful, especially considering it came after you wrote "If a man did the same thing, he would be called a stud."


Counting college and my chosen career, i have been making a living with words for well over a decade. I don't need a lesson from you on how ambiguous they can be. You could use a few lessons in how to understand people AND how to wait until you actually know something about someone before you try to write them down.

A man who "knows what he likes and gets it", is so much more of a man than one who can’t get it and has to take it. I wouldn’t say a man like yours is arrogant or pigheaded, just boring.

I’m far from a victim my dear boy, I’ve been very successful, successful in a career dominated by men I might add. Fearful I am not, I gave that career up, taking the risk to pursue what I love. Am I a feminist, very much so, should all women be so, they are stupid if they are not. You men don’t give, but we can and do take. Look around the world, I for one do not look good covered head to toe in black, MEN. I don’t want a child left in the garbage pit because she happens to be a girl child, MEN. This is a sexist world, so much less for those of us who happen to have been born in a western culture, but men didn’t make it less sexists, we made it so.

Are you this insecure in your masculinity. Do strong women characters scare you. Maybe my dear boy you’d better be the one to grow up. I said nothing whatsoever about men. My only reference to men, was the use of the word STUD, a small little reference to wishing there was a similar term for women, when did being called a STUD become a bad thing to men. Have we feminist emasculated you men that much? Personally I hope not, I like studly men, dominate, studly, men, the stallions of you lot, few and far between but rarity is such a wonderful thing.

Now back to my point the word SLUT. It is such a tiresome word, worn out completely. It can mean a thousand things, some bad, some good, to you men I’m afraid it envisions only one thing, we’re there for your taking. In a way that is so laughable, in male, female sexual relationships, we women have the choice, we pick, and most of us, if we care to do so, can pick whom we want and pick as often as we want. If I want to get laid, my dear boy, I can do so and I have the choice pickings. The word slut does not depict that, the word slut means I’m easy, all can have me. What’s even funnier is I or any women has the choice to do all of you, short of rape, it’s still our choice. Most men on the other hand may want to get laid, but most of the time your going to end up at home by yourself using your hand, that is unless one of "us sluts" picks you. I’m sure many men just hate that it is our choice, they’d much rather have it the other way around, well boys it’s not, eat your hearts out.

BlessedBe for you, stud, Lothario, Don Juan, Casanova, lover boy, lover, lady’s man, lady killer, just to name a few. Like most other words I could list some that are not so good, but there is a choice between good and bad. In that choice it makes the job of writing more accurate and descriptive. There really isn’t this range of choice when referring to a sexually liberated women.

It is a double standard. Do I blame you men, no not unless you’ve been around for most of the development of the English Language.

Now that I’m over my all men are assholes mood, thank you very much fanzee. I would like to point out, the negativity associated with words like slut, are as much, if not more, the fault of us women. We women, as a group, tend to be much more judgmental of other women then men are.

The truth of what I was trying to say was not really in the use of the word slut, I to use that word. I even understand where some of the women who say they like the idea of being a slut or slutty are coming from, but it’s hard to know for sure, that word just has to many meaning. At times I can be very sluttish, if changing partners often, picking men up, my choice, having lots of sex with different men is being a slut then I’ve been that. I can’t see that as a bad thing, it was who I was and what I wanted at that time, but I still don’t feel the word slut works.

My lover at times thinks I’m a slut, I love to flirt, I love to dress provocatively, at times I come on to others. How she means that depends on what I’ve done, if she jealous, I’m a bad slut, if what I’ve done arouses her then I’m a good slut. Am I upset as a woman writer of erotica that the only choices I have, have some negativity attached to them, you damn right I am. Erotic writing is not just for men who have a negative image of women, although you seem to think it is fanzee.

What I was trying to point out was I liked the possibilities of Chicklet’s character, she’d be strong, we women are strong, the choice of who to have sex with was hers. Her choice could have been every male in the building, but it’s her choice. I fully expect Chicklet to use the word slut in her story, it works better then most of the alternatives. Although I kind of like the word tart, I have my eyes on this cute little French tart at the present time. Eyes only, I have a lover. Yes fanzee, I’m a dyke, one who for the most part appreciates men.

I’ll further state when most of you men read the word slut, or some of your other more endearing words, bitch(another well worn word, with duel meanings) cumslut, cock-sucking whore, butch(some hetro women are very butch), deisel, dyke(sex with men?), (I’m editing out pussy-whipped bitch, pussy whipped refers to certain a type of men, one who very likely lives with a very butch hetro woman), you think of us as easy, we are an easy conquest for you, it’s that simple. Dream on hun, we are only as easy as we want to be. Even in a male Dom/Sub relationship, it’s her choice. I even know one males in a Dom/Sub relationship that would be so undom if it wasn’t for her it’s almost laughable. Oh well, love conquers all.

Hopefully I understand Chicklet’s use of the word sluttishness, maybe not, maybe she wants a nymphomaniac, if so surely change your character to one who has no choice. Personally I like the idea of her being successful and powerful, then making the choice to be sluttish, then choosing to be the office slut. I want her to be passionate, lustful, and willing to be lost in her own desires. Her power makes her choice totally wanton, there is no ulterior motive, no need for advancement, she gets her advancement on her own abilities. If she want to fulfill your fantasy out in the middle of the floor, fanzee, she’ll do so, but she’ll choose that course.

Another take would be she becomes a slut to advance, or trap the boss, both of those are about using sex for power. It happens, some women make that choice. Of course, that take on it leaves you out, fanzee, your just not that important, but she may just fuck your boss to get your job. You can always make her a typical slut, a nonentity, one who’ll fuck anybody for no reason at all, no real reason for a plot, why bother with character development, start her out in the janitors closet, then have her work her way up the line. Lots of fuck stories here at Lit like that. See I to use the word slut, I have no choice, it would be nice to have something more descriptive and much less able to be interpreted as a negative. Maybe I’m wrong Chicklet but I don’t think you see being a slut as a negative. Is "she's loose" a negative, it seems to me that it’s a choice.

The word just sucks, it is worn out, it lacks specific meaning. Your the office slut, if you cheat on your husband, your a slut, if you live with an I love to be cuckold man and cuckold him, your a slut, if you have an open relationship(swing), your a slut, if you go to a club dress and dance provocatively, your a slut, if you make love to another woman your a slut, fanzee want’s to use force, no choice, your a slut and I could go on.

As far as your reference to the word dyke being erotic, I suppose you’d feel the word nigger is erotic. Calling a lesbian a dyke, is like calling a black man a nigger, and yes like blacks do at time call themselves niggers, we to at times call ourselves dykes. Just to set the record straight calling me a dyke, if you care to, doesn’t really hurt badly, the throwing of the beer cans and bottles hurts so much worse.

Your right fanzee, I don’t know you, I don’t even care to know you. Talk about getting on a band wagon, I said nothing at all, you got on your hobby horse and took a ride. You tell me hun, where is stating "Strange how in the English language we have no term for a woman who know what she likes, takes it and has fun doing so, other then slut!" a political statement, your take on what I said is absurd, where on the other hand all you did was spout your sexual political agenda.

I could surely do as you’ve accused me of, "i take exception with her inserting her very personal politics on this subject into a forum about erotic fiction" which is exactly what you’ve done, not me. I’m sure, if I did, it would be some what feminist, much less then you may think when it comes to relationships and sex. I’ve always been of the opinion that the extreme feminists views of sex and male/female relationship is full of shit, but I also find some of your views full of shit. The thing is fanzee, I now know your views, where as with mine, other then stating the reality that the world is sexist, you haven’t got a clue. I did not express them nor did I insert them anywhere.

 

[fanzee1]

The thing is fanzee, I now know your views, where as with mine, other then stating the reality that the world is sexist, you haven’t got a clue. I did not express them nor did I insert them anywhere.

One other thing i needed to add. You don't know my views. You said this after reading one of my posts. One post out of over 1600 and you claim to know my views. Why you are superb. How ridiculous. You don't know anything about me that i haven't told you in the last 24 hours -- and that isn't much.

 

[Guest]

...remind me not to move there

It would be worth it to meet such a wonderful man like Sirhugs.

 

[MightyZor]

Chicklet, maybe you can rename Gina into something more innocent like Sarah, or Lucille, or Tiffany?

 

[Chicklet]

Gina

Zor, the whole reason I named her "Gina" was because all the Gina's I know are slutty - I think Gina's a *slutty* name - if I wanted her to be *innocent* I would have named her something cute and innocent like Kelsey or something similar. But I wanted an office slut named Gina.

Chicklet

ps - is anyone else exhausted after catching up on this thread?

 

[sirhugs]

It would be worth it to meet such a wonderful man like Sirhugs.

 

[Diane Marie]

One other thing i needed to add. You don't know my views. You said this after reading one of my posts. One post out of over 1600 and you claim to know my views. Why you are superb. How ridiculous. You don't know anything about me that i haven't told you in the last 24 hours -- and that isn't much.

Point well taken, please remember that is a two way street.

Fanzee, lets face it, your never going to like me, I assume your not alone in that. I’m most assuredly never going to like you. You had your input, I’ve had mine. Please lets just agree we dislike each other and move on. Enough already.

 

[fanzee1]

Point well taken, please remember that is a two way street.

Fanzee, lets face it, your never going to like me, I amuse your not alone in that. I’m most assuredly never going to like you. You had your input, I’ve had mine. Please lets just agree we dislike each other and move on. Enough already.

I'm definitely moving on but i never entered into this to make you like me and i assume you weren't seeking my approval either. I merely wanted to express my displeasure and explain why i was displeased. If I've been able to make you understand why i was offended, then this has been an entirely successful endeavor for me. If it hasn't, oh well. It was readily apparent to me when i read your other posts that we never would have been friends anyway, and that's not a problem for either of us, i'm sure.


ok, done, hopefully we won't ever have anything else to do with each other.


ta-ta,


-f

 

[sirhugs]

...on with the show, ....

so, where were we? Have we got ideas and/or writers interested in sexually liberated females engaged in sex related to work?

 

[Guest]

 

[Guest]

Re: ...on with the show, ....

so, where were we? Have we got ideas and/or writers interested in sexually liberated females engaged in sex related to work?

I'm always interested, but I've been fighting my inner writing demons as of late... Perhaps my return of orgasms will help get other juices flowing?

 

[sirhugs]

my " sex at work " story is about an agressive female, but not a "slut". I needs one more "5" vote to get its "H" back. Vote if you like it, please.

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=72379

I didn't write it thinking about votes- its just a bare stroker, but I'm pleased with the score so far. I have other " ross the boss" ideas, but have not decided about them, cause despite the score, I have no feedback. Is this worth exploring further ( my next idea is a " mature" theme- the sexy older divorcee at work seduces Ross- or the other way around?)

is Lorna worth exploring further?

 

[lexium]

my " sex at work " story is about an agressive female, but not a "slut". I needs one more "5" vote to get its "H" back. Vote if you like it, please.

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=72379

I didn't write it thinking about votes- its just a bare stroker, but I'm pleased with the score so far. I have other " ross the boss" ideas, but have not decided about them, cause despite the score, I have no feedback. Is this worth exploring further ( my next idea is a " mature" theme- the sexy older divorcee at work seduces Ross- or the other way around?)

is Lorna worth exploring further?

I was happy to give you a 5 on that story, however she seemed to just take advantage of the opportunity to get her needs met. I thought you were ferring to her as being aggressive about her work. Maybe fucking the boss to get ahead.

 

[Guest]

my " sex at work " story is about an agressive female, but not a "slut". I needs one more "5" vote to get its "H" back.

I must be a bad writer. My few stories have never had an "H" to it.

 

[Chicklet]

I must be a bad writer. My few stories have never had an "H" to it.

hugs for tiggs

mine haven't either, but i'm writing more for myself than for lit.

chicklet

 

[sirhugs]

I don't pretend to werite well. The scores seem to reflect subject mattter /smuttiness more than ability. I didn't "care" until Getting Old Sucks got an "H'. It just seems a shame that Hey Legs was at 4.65 and fell back to 4.48.

 

[Chicklet]

the bulk of readers seem to want a 1500 word story where sex starts on sentance two and orgasms come at least three times.

 

[sirhugs]

the bulk of readers seem to want a 1500 word story where sex starts on sentance two and orgasms come at least three times.

well, my high scores are usually longer stories- that's why I was surprised "Hey Legs" did so well. But yes, wall to wall sex seems to sell. All my high scores are intensely packed with sex. " Gender Blender" has at least six sex scenes, although its 4000 words, so readers don't get bored. In "Getting Old Sucks", my first 'long form' piece,( thanks to Chicklet's encouragement), the sex runs through- at least 5 'scenes' in 3000 words. The other story that gets high scores is my cousin incest fantasy story, with one continuous seduction starting about the fourth paragraph, and running 2000 intense words.

 

[MsLinnet]

hugs for tiggs

mine haven't either, but i'm writing more for myself than for lit.

chicklet

thats the only person that you should write for so i am told
keep up the good work

Love Always Linnet