Oh My God!

CharleyH said:
I have read everything tonight ... so who in the AH is actually interested in writing again?

For the writers: Does character, sex or plot make an erotic narrative?

I've been working on two novels this year.

One is a (homo)erotic fantasy story - I got to what I estimated as the halfway point and stalled out because I was unsure of the plot. It was one of those "write it and see what happens" stories and all sorts of bizarre things happened, unti I had gotten the characters into a situation I couldn't pull off. When/if I go back to it (and I think I will eventually, thus breaking my "never dust off an old story" rule) I'll have to find the point where it went wrong and go from there.

The other is a (homo)erotic cop story. I started it as fluff, a break from the other more serious work, and finally started working on it today after a break of almost two weeks while I thought about the handcuffing scene that comes next. For some reason, I couldn't find an erotic trigger to lead me into writing a sex scene involving handcuffing... so we'll see.

As far as an erotic narrative, I try to write what appeals to me, thus making it erotic for me. Other people might not agree. That's the reward of writing erotica: custom porn. :)
 
carsonshepherd said:
I've been working on two novels this year.

One is a (homo)erotic fantasy story - I got to what I estimated as the halfway point and stalled out because I was unsure of the plot. It was one of those "write it and see what happens" stories and all sorts of bizarre things happened, unti I had gotten the characters into a situation I couldn't pull off. When/if I go back to it (and I think I will eventually, thus breaking my "never dust off an old story" rule) I'll have to find the point where it went wrong and go from there.

The other is a (homo)erotic cop story. I started it as fluff, a break from the other more serious work, and finally started working on it today after a break of almost two weeks while I thought about the handcuffing scene that comes next. For some reason, I couldn't find an erotic trigger to lead me into writing a sex scene involving handcuffing... so we'll see.

As far as an erotic narrative, I try to write what appeals to me, thus making it erotic for me. Other people might not agree. That's the reward of writing erotica: custom porn. :)


We are here to help carson! Does that mean attention to character or sex?
 
Colleen Thomas said:
LOL,

I started to say horse of my dreams, but I decided I'd take entierly too much ribbing if I did :)

DAMN RIGHT! :p lol
 
IMHO.

No matter how good the description, sex w/o character or plot is a vignette, a scene, a slice-of-life, not a story.

In my experience, the ratio between those three elements will vary depending on the story and the nature of the sex. My last two contest entries were short Romances which had no physical sex. But I'd like to think neither was a-sexual.

With the help of DreamPilot, Vella, and Hugo, I'm finishing the last edit/rewrite of my holiday contest entry. It's a total change-fo-pace for me, a 18,000 word Group Sex saga.

The challenge was/is to create four couples, including a protag, readers could relate with in a vaguely plausable setting using a minimalist plot involving sexual fantasies some might have had AND to do this while keeping the sex fresh and interesting. For as Colly pointed out, there's only so many ways to describe the insertion of tab A into slot B. To that I'll add, no matter what type of tab or which slot is involved.

I've got a hunch a lot of AH folks will be underwhelmed since there's little plot and virtually no character developement. I might feel the same way about a similar effort by someone else. But while it's an unabashed stroke story, there is still more to it than stroking, just not much more.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
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CharleyH said:
Hm, I cant argue, so lets move on. Lets discuss shitty writers for a moment ... what does a shitty writer look like on paper?
I doNt Know For surE BuT mY guEss is iT loOKs somEthinG likeTHis

OR noT

Debbie :heart:

Edit: Oooops I thought you said shifty wow Im really bare assed
 
My thoughts, for the nickel that they are worth:

1. There are only certain numbers of plots – whether 3 or 7 or 20, the number is limited
2. There are only so many character types. I know that view is a bit of a heresy, but really, when you take away the bric-a-brac of personal details, there are not that many distinct personalities.
3. Sex, as Colleen noted, is pretty much a matter of a certain number of ways to do it –how, when, where, and with what.

But, there are two almost inexhaustible elements: Language and settings. The latter can engage the mind; new places, new times – things that you can give the reader as an added patina to the story. The former, the use of language for its own sake, to enhance the sensuality, to stir, like good music, the mental ear and heart is what I think can make what would otherwise be just another replay of the same old story into something that is fresh, vibrant.
That turns you on, in all the meaningful ways.
 
Rideme Cowgirl said:
I doNt Know For surE BuT mY guEss is iT loOKs somEthinG likeTHis

OR noT

Debbie :heart:

Edit: Oooops I thought you said shifty wow Im really bare assed

You just want a strap on up your ass ;) Its ok - we'll do an enima first :devil:
 
CharleyH said:
You just want a strap on up your ass ;) Its ok - we'll do an enima first :devil:

Thanks but I dont like rap music and he was specially bad so you can do that yourself.

Debbie :heart:
 
carsonshepherd said:
well, ideally. That's what I strive for anyway.

:) nice post, cant call you bitch, thats what the Bowie guy is for (ok getting dumb now :D)


(Hey day off :| I can be)
 
Rideme Cowgirl said:
appologies to the rest of you but im loving this.
BBBBBAAAAAHHHHHAAhhhhaaaa
im so sophmoric...moronic, what ever...
 
vella_ms said:
appologies to the rest of you but im loving this.
BBBBBAAAAAHHHHHAAhhhhaaaa
im so sophmoric...moronic, what ever...
Your just cute and I love you and and want to take a shower with you but Charley can come to if she dont bring the rap guy

Debbie :heart:
 
Rumple Foreskin said:
IMHO.

No matter how good the description, sex w/o character or plot is a vignette, a scene, a slice-of-life, not a story.

Why? :D It seems like a hollywood movie to me ;)
 
Rideme Cowgirl said:
Your just cute and I love you and and want to take a shower with you but Charley can come to if she dont bring the rap guy

Debbie :heart:

What?!!! No FFM or MMF threesome? Sad day in american culture, Kansas girl :D Click your heels again ... maybe something AMAZING will happen. :nana:
 
CharleyH said:
What?!!! No FFM or MMF threesome? Sad day in american culture, Kansas girl :D Click your heels again ... maybe something AMAZING will happen. :nana:

See you can't even count cause me and Veela and you and the rap guy would be five so I guess you need to get a new calcuttator :p

Debbie :heart:
 
Rideme Cowgirl said:
See you can't even count cause me and Veela and you and the rap guy would be five so I guess you need to get a new calcuttator :p

Debbie :heart:

Thats a 9, so invert to a 6 and add 6 and 9 :devil: Debbie! YOU IS ONE BIG TEXAN PRUDE! ;)
 
CharleyH said:
Thats a 9, so invert to a 6 and add 6 and 9 :devil: Debbie! YOU IS ONE BIG TEXAN PRUDE! ;)

I think your tetched cause there was no 9 in there and you can't turn numbers upside down and sides Im not from texas or kansas like you said befor Im from Colorabi :rolleyes:
 
Strange thread but a good question.

For me the amount of plot and character description depend on the length of the story I am writing. If it a short, wank and go story then ther will be very little development beyond the sex scene itself. If it more of a thought maker, like Watching, then I will add more description and maybe work on the characters a little more. If it is something longer, a little deeper, something that I'm trying to put a message into then I'll work on the characters as well. I'll try to make them real to the person reading the story. (In the case of Jade I try to make the people more believable and the situation something from a good dream.)

In the story I am working on now, long, I am trying to make everything work together. I am trying to make my characters believable, I am trying to make the situation, while far fetched understandable, and I am trying to make people think through the dialogue and character interactions.

Cat
 
kendo1 said:
Couldn't agere more!

Though men and women may think differently.
and almost every one of them does... not just between the sexes, but between individuals, people think differently.

Not all that MUCH differently, thank goodness, or we wouldn't get far...
 
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