Oral sex arrangement for Women?

@PapaWhiskey87 I have had neck soreness too. A pillow helps, but sometimes it is best to switch positions. However, I must admit, if I know she is getting close I will not change positions. I will just have a sore neck for the rest of the day and she will have a smile on her face.

ES
 
I like to get in a 69 position, but with my underwear on, put my arms under her knees and lift her bottom up so I can have easy access to both holes....then if she starts thrashing, I kind of have a hold on her so she can't get off my tongue. :devilish:
 
Most guys arent very good at oral ... they think they are but not ..

And in my experience if a guy says hes good ... hes the worst


Occasionally... one is good but ...its rare
I know this is an old post but this is pretty harsh. It really depends on the woman and if what the guy is doing matches up with her likes. I don't think I have ever had a woman not like what I was doing, how could any woman not like the attention of guy down there? I will admit there were some that loved how I do it better than others but I am certainly flexible in trying to do what feels best for her, just need the feedback. This poster must have a very specific way that she likes it.
 
I know this is an old post but this is pretty harsh. It really depends on the woman and if what the guy is doing matches up with her likes. I don't think I have ever had a woman not like what I was doing, how could any woman not like the attention of guy down there? I will admit there were some that loved how I do it better than others but I am certainly flexible in trying to do what feels best for her, just need the feedback. This poster must have a very specific way that she likes it.
I think there are a few things to consider.
First, some women do not like to provide feedback or direction to the man giving oral. Some men enjoy and even prefer women to direct them during cunnilingus. So if those two get together it is not going to work.

Second, some men do not like feedback or listen to it. If they get together with someone who does, that will not work either.

Third, some men see bringing a woman to orgasm as an ego thing. They see it as something for them vs for her.

Finally, there are a lot of guys who are not good at cunnilingus. I don't know the percentage but they are out there. But most of these guys would be okay if they just listen to feedback or instruction. But as mentioned above, if they are paired with the wrong woman it will not work.

ES
 
I think there are a few things to consider.
First, some women do not like to provide feedback or direction to the man giving oral. Some men enjoy and even prefer women to direct them during cunnilingus. So if those two get together it is not going to work.

Second, some men do not like feedback or listen to it. If they get together with someone who does, that will not work either.

Third, some men see bringing a woman to orgasm as an ego thing. They see it as something for them vs for her.

Finally, there are a lot of guys who are not good at cunnilingus. I don't know the percentage but they are out there. But most of these guys would be okay if they just listen to feedback or instruction. But as mentioned above, if they are paired with the wrong woman it will not work.

ES
That is what I said, if what the guy does that matches with what the woman likes it works. On your third point, I would be more than happy to let any woman bring me to orgasm for her ego. If that is her thing that is fine with me because it still feels good to me.
 
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That is what I said, if what the guy does that matches with what the woman likes it works. On your third point, I would be more than happy to let any woman bring me to orgasm for her ego. If that is her thing that is fine with me because it still feels good to me.
You make a good point regarding a woman bringing you to orgasm for her ego. I think it is different how women see it when it comes to the ego thing. I had it explained to me several times by ladies and I think it is hard to compare when you switch roles like that. Maybe imagine a woman making you cum who you really don't like. If she makes you cum, you will look really bad. It may feel good physically but bad emotionally.
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You make a good point regarding a woman bringing you to orgasm for her ego. I think it is different how women see it when it comes to the ego thing. I had it explained to me several times by ladies and I think it is hard to compare when you switch roles like that. Maybe imagine a woman making you cum who you really don't like. If she makes you cum, you will look really bad. It may feel good physically but bad emotionally.
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You are probably right that men and women look at it differently but women's reluctance might be from their own self-imposed rules. If I was out at a bar and met an attractive woman and she wanted to go out to the car and take care of business then came back in to brag to her girlfriends that she made me cum, I would be grinning from ear to ear and saying, "Yep, I will be your willing ego booster anytime."
 
This made think back a dozen or so years ago doing a CMNF where I used a BOB to get her off, something we had chatted online about doing and finally got the chance to fulfill.
 
A log king time ago I actually had an agreement such as the one that started this thread. I met him on Craigslist before they changed Craigslist. Had a nice photo of himself we met for dinner etc. nothing happens the first night but then we built up trust and for the next six months he would come over to down take care of me and leave no questions asked anytime I called him and he wasn’t doing anything. He never got undressed he never was pushy he never put a hand anywhere it should not have been. He was also 20 years older than me lol
 
A log king time ago I actually had an agreement such as the one that started this thread. I met him on Craigslist before they changed Craigslist. Had a nice photo of himself we met for dinner etc. nothing happens the first night but then we built up trust and for the next six months he would come over to down take care of me and leave no questions asked anytime I called him and he wasn’t doing anything. He never got undressed he never was pushy he never put a hand anywhere it should not have been. He was also 20 years older than me lol
I would love to have a relationship like this. Nothing better than pleasing a woman with my tongue…
 
How about if you do it in the style of Dr. Seuss, including whimsical illustrations?

Or, I bet David Foster Wallace could have written oral sex instructions that would really make you think.

Really, it’s your choice of style as long as you cave to the demands of random dudes for our collective amusement.
I had intended to respond to the question "what part of 'no' don't you get?" with a brief disquisition on the experience of men of a certain age raised to believe that women really meant "yes" when they said "no," concluding that my comprehension of the English language was handicapped by my upbringing.
However, since you have ridden to her defense, please allow me to expand on my thoughts. I would have thought it would be obvious, but evidently I do have to say that no, I did not expect that, by making a pest of myself, I would persuade Fara to invite me to her home, spread her legs, and provide me with guidance on how to pleasure her. So, why did she find my comments so irritating and why did you feel the need to speak up.

I suppose that this may be seen as a response to the constant, unreasonable expectations that men have that women, particularly those who join an erotic website, are constantly in search of on-line sexual play. The internet version of the men who whistle and cat-call a woman walking down the streets of a city and think they are being complimentary. My comments to Fara did not arise in such a context.

Rather, they arise in the context of a thread in which numerous men have expressed their desire to provide no strings attached oral pleasure to women, and a handful of women have expressed interest in receiving such services. There have been many such threads on Lit over the years, none of which, as far as I know, have ever resulted in any real life experiences of this type. (Although I see that Bamamama posted last night that she has had such a relationship.) I would speculate that there are several reasons that this does not work out. I think that it is probably rare that a woman actually wants to feel a stranger's tongue between her legs. I would guess that some women who have expressed an interest would be very hesitant to follow through if the opportunity presented itself. And I have no doubt that many of the men who say that they would do this would chicken out were they to find a woman to take them up on the offer.

Into this discussion, Fara revived a post from a year ago expressing the view that most men are not very good at this activity, especially those who express great confidece in their skills. I suspect that to be true, but it does raise the question of why that is. Certainly a factor is the arrogance of men who think that they know what they are doing. But education on this topic. like most, requires two-way communication. So, I stand by my comment. Providing instruction in cunnilingus would, indeed, be a public service. Of course she has not obligation to train strangers. But if she is going to comment, in a thread like this, that men suck at it, she should be prepared to hear that men need to be taught.

Clearly, my way of making my point was not effective. This post is probarly pointless, as well. Who is going to read all this?

Do you like the way I lick?
Do I make your insides tick?
I do not like the way you lick.
Your method makes me feel sick.
 
I had intended to respond to the question "what part of 'no' don't you get?" with a brief disquisition on the experience of men of a certain age raised to believe that women really meant "yes" when they said "no," concluding that my comprehension of the English language was handicapped by my upbringing.
However, since you have ridden to her defense, please allow me to expand on my thoughts. I would have thought it would be obvious, but evidently I do have to say that no, I did not expect that, by making a pest of myself, I would persuade Fara to invite me to her home, spread her legs, and provide me with guidance on how to pleasure her. So, why did she find my comments so irritating and why did you feel the need to speak up.

I suppose that this may be seen as a response to the constant, unreasonable expectations that men have that women, particularly those who join an erotic website, are constantly in search of on-line sexual play. The internet version of the men who whistle and cat-call a woman walking down the streets of a city and think they are being complimentary. My comments to Fara did not arise in such a context.

Rather, they arise in the context of a thread in which numerous men have expressed their desire to provide no strings attached oral pleasure to women, and a handful of women have expressed interest in receiving such services. There have been many such threads on Lit over the years, none of which, as far as I know, have ever resulted in any real life experiences of this type. (Although I see that Bamamama posted last night that she has had such a relationship.) I would speculate that there are several reasons that this does not work out. I think that it is probably rare that a woman actually wants to feel a stranger's tongue between her legs. I would guess that some women who have expressed an interest would be very hesitant to follow through if the opportunity presented itself. And I have no doubt that many of the men who say that they would do this would chicken out were they to find a woman to take them up on the offer.

Into this discussion, Fara revived a post from a year ago expressing the view that most men are not very good at this activity, especially those who express great confidece in their skills. I suspect that to be true, but it does raise the question of why that is. Certainly a factor is the arrogance of men who think that they know what they are doing. But education on this topic. like most, requires two-way communication. So, I stand by my comment. Providing instruction in cunnilingus would, indeed, be a public service. Of course she has not obligation to train strangers. But if she is going to comment, in a thread like this, that men suck at it, she should be prepared to hear that men need to be taught.

Clearly, my way of making my point was not effective. This post is probarly pointless, as well. Who is going to read all this?

Do you like the way I lick?
Do I make your insides tick?
I do not like the way you lick.
Your method makes me feel sick.
Wtf?

You're using your upbringing as a defense to ignoring not *one* but multiple nos? Unless you've been living under a rock, it is 2022. Get with the times buddy.

So just as Fara should've known she was going to get clueless men to ask for a workshop on how to eat pussy by she stating that most men don't know how to eat women (which is true, hint hint look at the orgasm gap) THEN it is a woman's fault to be catcalled, harrassed or raped because of what she was wearing, her actions, or because she drank too much?

Rapey language much 🙄
 
I've spent the week mostly just trying to figure out how to navigate around and then find my way back to a thred or post or whatever.

So, when can you start, assuming you have a cyber version.
Interesting, never thought of a cyber version of this. Only thought of a real life situation.
 
Interesting, never thought of a cyber version of this. Only thought of a real life situation.
I'm new in these forums and threds. And maybe I have misused the word cyber. But I figure if the writers of some of the stories can use words to paint a mental picture, maybe with some practice there would be a way? Just speculating.
 
I'm new in these forums and threds. And maybe I have misused the word cyber. But I figure if the writers of some of the stories can use words to paint a mental picture, maybe with some practice there would be a way? Just speculating.
No, you used the word correctly and I am sure somebody could paint a mental picture of the situation and what is being done. That is really what goes on in Lit. It could be done as a story or role-play.
 
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