Peyton Manning

You know they kept panning to show the disheartened Manning.

Did I miss John Horse Teeth Elway? That's the one I wanted to see.

That was the biggest blow out since

I think the last time the Bronco's got thrashed by SF or was it the time they got Thrashed by Washington?

Oh, well in Manning's defense when the game starts with a safety that should tell you something.
 
Can we finally stop with Peyton Manning is the greatest QB EVER! Cause it just ain't so......good time to retire, Peyton
 
Can we finally stop with Peyton Manning is the greatest QB EVER! Cause it just ain't so......good time to retire, Peyton

That was just eyer giving himself a boner at your expense. Peyton's legacy remains unchanged and despite last night's performance - - he's one of a few even in the conversation for greatest ever. Find me one GM or coach who wouldn't want Peyton leading his team and you'll have found a liar.

I hope he doesn't retire as he's very good for the game and is playing at a rarefied level. I would hope that he wouldn't want to end his career on a sour note. Doesn't seem like this guy would do that: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/peyton...wl-loss-with-reputation-intact-065205260.html
 
That was just eyer giving himself a boner at your expense. Peyton's legacy remains unchanged and despite last night's performance - - he's one of a few even in the conversation for greatest ever. Find me one GM or coach who wouldn't want Peyton leading his team and you'll have found a liar.

I hope he doesn't retire as he's very good for the game and is playing at a rarefied level. I would hope that he wouldn't want to end his career on a sour note. Doesn't seem like this guy would do that: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/peyton...wl-loss-with-reputation-intact-065205260.html

My point was, I believe, and many other's believe, you need a 500 or better record in the Super Bowl to be the best of all time which is what people were saying before last night game. I believe his legacy took a hit last night. Is he top 5 ever? Probably, but is he ahead of Elway, Montana, Brady?....I don’t think so. Level greatness is separated by Super Bowl rings. Pro football isn’t a stat league

I just don't know how he goes through all of next season, kicking ass, throwing touchdowns, and if/when he gets to the playoffs, its.......Can he win? can he win?
 
Best thing about the Superbowl was the LACK of Manning miked up and shouting out Omaha and other stupid words. So annoying. Like watching Monica Seles play tennis.
 
My point was, I believe, and many other's believe, you need a 500 or better record in the Super Bowl to be the best of all time which is what people were saying before last night game. I believe his legacy took a hit last night. Is he top 5 ever? Probably, but is he ahead of Elway, Montana, Brady?....I don’t think so. Level greatness is separated by Super Bowl rings. Pro football isn’t a stat league

I just don't know how he goes through all of next season, kicking ass, throwing touchdowns, and if/when he gets to the playoffs, its.......Can he win? can he win?

I'll leave the mental masturbation to whoever decided that an arbitrary .500 winning percentage is the line in the sand when it comes to football's GOAT.

Pro football isn't a stats league? How else do you explain how Marino and Moon are in the HoF? Their smiles?
 
Isn't Peyton the only QB to throw a pick six in two different Super Bowls?

That's his legacy.:D
 
I'll leave the mental masturbation to whoever decided that an arbitrary .500 winning percentage is the line in the sand when it comes to football's GOAT.

Pro football isn't a stats league? How else do you explain how Marino and Moon are in the HoF? Their smiles?

You're missing the point. I'll try to be clear since I don't want to besmirch your idol. I am just saying Peyton is NOT the best ever! Is he in the discussion? yes. Also keep in mind his career is not over, he could win another SB. But in this day and age, we judge QB's by the Superbowls they win, and that is where he falls short. Elway would of had the same cloud above him had he not won two, we know he was in a few and came up short.

Marino is not the best ever, nor is Moon. They're Hall of Fame worthy to be sure. They say Sonny Jergensen could be the best ever, but win Superbowls either....
 
You're missing the point. I'll try to be clear since I don't want to besmirch your idol. I am just saying Peyton is NOT the best ever! Is he in the discussion? yes. Also keep in mind his career is not over, he could win another SB. But in this day and age, we judge QB's by the Superbowls they win, and that is where he falls short. Elway would of had the same cloud above him had he not won two, we know he was in a few and came up short.

Marino is not the best ever, nor is Moon. They're Hall of Fame worthy to be sure. They say Sonny Jergensen could be the best ever, but win Superbowls either....

Two things:

1) I'm not saying that Peyton is the best ever. Let me help you figure this out:

Peyton's legacy remains unchanged and despite last night's performance - - he's one of a few even in the conversation for greatest ever. [/url]

If you read that as me saying he's the best ever, well, that's entirely up to you and your inability to comprehend English.

2) If you're going by SB wins only - "because the NFL isn't a stats-driven league", then Montana and Bradshaw are start and end of the conversation.


Also, so much for a Seahawks win being bullish predictor for the stock market.
 
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Two things:

1) I'm not saying that Peyton is the best ever. Let me help you figure this out:

If you read that as me saying he's the best ever, well, that's entirely up to you and your inability to comprehend English.

2) If you're going by SB wins only - "because the NFL isn't a stats-driven league", then Montana and Bradshaw are start and end of the conversation.

Also, so much for a Seahawks win being bullish predictor for the stock market.

First off, its not my conversation, but since you asked, Montana yeah, then Brady, then Johnny Unitas, then probably Elway, Peyton at #5.
 
First off, its not my conversation, but since you asked, Montana yeah, then Brady, then Johnny Unitas, then probably Elway, Peyton at #5.

Well, you see, Beco, now you're contradicting yourself:

Level greatness is separated by Super Bowl rings.


Montana: 4 SB wins
Bradshaw: 4SB wins

Brady/Unitas/Elway/Peyton: <4 SB wins

So, which is it, the # of SB rings or Beco's 'gut feeling du jour'?


BTW, you forgot Aikman.....he has three SB wins.
 
Well, you see, Beco, now you're contradicting yourself:

Montana: 4 SB wins
Bradshaw: 4SB wins

Brady/Unitas/Elway/Peyton: <4 SB wins

So, which is it, the # of SB rings or Beco's 'gut feeling du jour'?


BTW, you forgot Aikman.....he has three SB wins.

I simply said, Peyton isnt the best ever.......thats all.
 
Well, you see, Beco, now you're contradicting yourself:




Montana: 4 SB wins
Bradshaw: 4SB wins

Brady/Unitas/Elway/Peyton: <4 SB wins

So, which is it, the # of SB rings or Beco's 'gut feeling du jour'?


BTW, you forgot Aikman.....he has three SB wins.

I really feel Bradshaw wasnt as good as history shows him in having those rings.

I think Manning still has the potential to be the best ever, but only if he sticks around two more years and gets at least one more ring.
 
A day after the 2013 NFL season ends...

...Peyton Manning finishes it with 6,387 passing yards, 60 touchdown passes, 13 interceptions, and now sits only 12 TD passes behind NFL career TD pass record-holder Brett Farve.

Meanwhile, in Vegas...

...the Broncos are favored to represent the AFC in SB XLIX on February 1, 2015, in Glendale, AZ.
 
A Correction and An Update...

Peyton Manning finished last season 17 touchdowns behind all-time leader Brett Farve...

...not the 12 I erroneously reported in the post immediately above.

So, with the 3 he threw last night against the Colts, Manning is now 14 TDs shy of Farve's record.

Here's the All-Time Top 10...

...(active players are Bolded):

01...Brett Favre..............508
02...Peyton Manning.....494
03...Dan Marino..............420
04...Drew Brees............364
05...Tom Brady.............360
06...Fran Tarkenton.........342
07...John Elway...............300
08...Warren Moon............291
09...Johnny Unitas...........290
10...Vinny Testaverde......275

(Regular season stats obviously only apply to the records keepers...)
 
Peyton Manning finished last season 17 touchdowns behind all-time leader Brett Farve...

...not the 12 I erroneously reported in the post immediately above.

So, with the 3 he threw last night against the Colts, Manning is now 14 TDs shy of Farve's record.

Here's the All-Time Top 10...

...(active players are Bolded):

01...Brett Favre..............508
02...Peyton Manning.....494
03...Dan Marino..............420
04...Drew Brees............364
05...Tom Brady.............360
06...Fran Tarkenton.........342
07...John Elway...............300
08...Warren Moon............291
09...Johnny Unitas...........290
10...Vinny Testaverde......275

(Regular season stats obviously only apply to the records keepers...)

Does Manning still have 3 less rings than Bradshaw? Now Shaddup, wannabe.
 
If Peyton Manning tosses a TD this weekend at home against the Cardinals, he will become only the 2nd QB in NFL history to throw 500 TDs...

...1,249 players have thrown TDs in the NFL's 94-year history, and only Brett Farve so far has thrown 500 touchdowns or more - he ended his career with 508.

More fun facts from Troy E. Renck:

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Manning was the second-fastest to 200 touchdown passes, tied for first to 300 with Dan Marino and required the fewest games to post 400. If he reaches 500 on Sunday, it will be in 49 fewer games than Favre.

Uhh...

...49 games is 3 full regular seasons.

Forty-four players can boast of catching scoring passes from Manning. He connected 112 times with Colts great Marvin Harrison, the most by any NFL duo.

The Manning-to-Harrison connection is, indeed, the NFL's most prolific...

...and the Manning-to-Reggie Wayne combo is #2 in history.

18 on his very first NFL TD toss:

"The first pass I ever threw was in a preseason game — I threw a touchdown pass to Marvin Harrison, and I thought in my head: 'I think we can throw the ball to Marvin Harrison. It's a pretty good idea because good things can happen,' " Manning said. "That's pretty much what happened every time I threw to him all for those years — good things. I think a lot of records will get broken. Players are playing longer. The rules have changed somewhat. But that's one I was proud of because of all the work Marvin and I put in together. All those touchdowns resulted in a lot wins for our team, so I know I'm proud of that one."

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_26646496/broncos-peyton-manning-about-join-500-club-touchdown
 
Manning now has 506 TDs to Farve's 508...

...he also now trails Farve in career victories by only 16, 171-187.

The Broncos play twice in the next 11 days, against the 49ers and then the Chargers...

...both @ Denver.
 
it is not often
that the best you have ever had chance to see
still offers all of you
the chance to see.

the denver years will be...
legendary.

they actually already have been.

scoop up some icing!
 
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