Please Teach me about Sex

...Of the women who orgasm (yes, there are some who can't or choose not to) ....

I love it when a man starts telling me about my body and about how best to be stimulated. They invariably make statements like this! Muahahahaha!!!

Dude, I REALLY doubt that there are women who "Choose" not to orgasm, especially on this site.
 
you should write the book

I love you.


oop did I say that out loud?


Almost all of the nerve endings in the vagina are near the extensive network of the clitoris. The clitoris has 18 parts which accounts, also, for "G-spot orgasms." The cervix has no nerve endings per se but may be responding to pressure or dilation. When I orgasm and when female lovers of mine have orgasmed, there has been a fluttering in the cervix when it dilates due to clitoral stimulation (whether internal clitoral stimulation or external clitoral stimulation). Perhaps this is what you are describing is the repeated opening and closing spasms of the cervix that accompany a very strong orgasm caused by clitoral stimulation?

Any part of the body, when stretched to 10 times its normal size, would probably feel like a ring of fire. :) It would feel a whole lot worse if there were a lot of nerve endings there.

I am not saying that I doubt your experience or your wife's, but what I know is that women feel most intensely the stimulation to the clitoris that happens both inside and outside of the vagina. Too many women for far too long have felt like sexual inadequates due to the spread of misinformation that the clitoris and clitoral orgasms were "immature" or "inferior." I just would love to see that dark age ended now and for women to relax and orgasm the way they are most comfortable orgasming without it having to be a circus feat. :) Not that experimentation is a bad thing at all! I applaud you and your wife for engaging in it!

The truth is that only 30% of women ever orgasm during penetration, ever! So if you could report orgasming during in-out penetration as a woman, you would be in the minority even if it happened only once! For most women, orgasm simply does not happen during penetration. Yet most women will feel inadequate because of this and will feel like they have to practice, study, get surgery, whatever it takes to orgasm the way the porn movies tell us we're all supposed to. All that instead of simply loving the female body and letting it experience pleasure the way it wants to.

I know that this is probably turning off every man at Literotica for me to say these things. And I'm sorry. But I cannot lie, and will not perpetuate the myth that undermines clitoral importance in female orgasm any longer. Time, and orgasms, are precious. :)

blessings and good sex to all of you.

:rose:
 
Well I don't like this 'g spot' thing I've tried it and it just makes me ache. I've never had an orgasm from male penetration only clitoral. I've always thought it was due to some hang up on my part due to my childhood abuse, but maybe it's just the way I am made
 
Well I don't like this 'g spot' thing I've tried it and it just makes me ache. I've never had an orgasm from male penetration only clitoral. I've always thought it was due to some hang up on my part due to my childhood abuse, but maybe it's just the way I am made

You are in the majority Annie. You are made just fine. It is society that is made wrong. :rose:

Aw, and ty Anna. :rose:
 
After softy! Ha! I love it.

I am very kind to after softy. I sometimes just want to give him a little extra love. Not to get him hard again, just as a little "god I love you, you cute sweet sexy guy" Kind of like how after a long kissing session, those little pecks at the end, like you are not quite ready to stop...? even though you are ready to stop?

:)

That's all I was doing, being sweet, but he was uber sensitive...very informative thread.
I've enjoyed the serious talk about sex, pretty cool.

xoxox

~m
 
Hi Andy!

Okay, sex question.

This is more of a sex and moral problem. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

My lover does this thing to me. Oh my lord. He takes me to a place oh my surely you know, but he is the only one to have ever taken me there-- G-Spot Massage, manual. I honestly thought of it as myth before meeting him.

Here is the thing, my main partner has never even tried this. So.... we are in a committed relationship (shut up, I know) and he KNOWS I go around with other people. He knows but we do not talk about it. It sounds awful to say it, but we have a 'don't ask, don't tell" policy that has worked for 16 years.

At any rate. I want him to do this to me too. But I do not want him to feel jealous or insecure. I do not want to rub it in, so to speak.

What do you suggest? Should I say I saw it on the internet? Read about it in a magazine? Should I just forget about it and enjoy what we do have, which is very good?

Thanks!

I do not want to rub it in... good one, I love it!

Here's my suggestions:

I guess you could cut him off for awhile. Get him good and wound up. Then, on the chosen night, do whatever it is you do that he really likes, and do it until he's just about to lose it. Then you stop and say, "Baby, before we go any farther, can you do something for me?"

Or, you take turns being the center of attention. One night, you tell him it's all about him. Then another night, you say, Since last time was all about you, this time should be all about me... Then you make him give you a massage, do whatever it is you like, and you show him how to do the g-spot thing.

Or, the next time the two of you are in the sack fooling around, you say that you'd like to tell him a little story, or tell him you have a secret. If necessary, you can act shy about it, because that's how people act about secrets. Then you tell him the secret: the secret is that you gave yourself an orgasm while masturbating, because there's this thing you read in the magazines.

Then you say it's really easy, and that you would like to feel him doing it to you, and you tell him you can show him, and you tell him it would feel so good to feel him make you come in this new way. And you put your hand on top of his hand and guide it and give him little directions and use your breath, etc to let him know when he's doing something you really like...

Or, you just do what they recommend in assertiveness training. Step one: Tell him what you want (I don't think there's any reason to even say where you learned about the g-spot thing, it's not much of a secret these days, is it? I think it's fairly common knowledge. If it's not common knowledge to him, tell him it's in all the ladies magazines). Step two: Tell him the positive benefits of doing what you want (It would make me feel so good if you would...) Step three: Repeat as necessary.

I think no matter what, you will have to take charge for a little bit. Either subtly or specifically. Is that something you feel comfortable doing? You're clever, you might be able to figure out a way to take charge without upsetting his apple cart if that is what is necessary... For me, I love it when a woman takes charge in the bedroom. It's pretty much my favorite thing in the whole world. Hell, my boss at work is a lesbian. I even love it when she gives me orders. Maybe he'll like it?

I guess the approach you choose will have a lot to do with the dynamics of the relationship, more information about the relationship would be helpful...

Under the circumstances, it does seem like the potential for him to feel threatened is high. Eesh. This is a tricky one.

This only leads to more questions. Is the manual g-spot massage any more complicated than the "come hither" motion the magazines talk about? What exactly does the other guy do that is so mind blowing? Does he just dive right into the g-spot? Does he do anything else first?

I've always been pretty unclear on the g-spot front, more info is needed. Another question I have is do women ever stimulate the g-spot when masturbating?
 
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I am not disagreeing with your comments on society, but you can keep exploring your sexuality by learning about what may work for others.

Oh I have certainly explored my sexuality and that of others. :) I read far more than the average human being does about sex and have had wonderful and exploratory experiences with others. But what worries me is that so many people believe things that are blatantly false about female sexuality . . . falsehoods that are perpetuated by pornography and the fact that people are embarrassed to discuss sex on a candid but factual level.

Some women prefer men who have very large long penises, even though length doesn't really do much physiologically for women's orgasms. It may be the psychological factor that women find engaging in such circumstances. ;)

I'm also a big believer in female ejaculation and male prostate stimulation. But to tell a woman that she must orgasm only from vaginal stimulation is the same as telling a man that he must orgasm from only prostate stimulation, without any touching of his penis. This is the message that most women get most of the time and it is frustrating.
 
Based on my wife’s experiences, it was her past sexual abuse that she had issues with as an adult that made her ‘g-spot’ hurt when stimulated. It did take some time and patience for her to get over her past and develop into the sexual woman she is today.

I find this comment disturbing and somewhat insulting although I don't suppose you meant it for one minute to be taken that way. But the way it comes over is that you are talking down to me and that if a woman doesn't get over her past through counselling she can't develop into a sexual person in her own right. I know I have hangups and I've done the counselling thing (which was crap and made me feel worse and I have no intention of going down that road again) but I reckon for someone my age (59 this week) I'm doing ok on the sexy front oh yes and that is a recent pic of me in my AV
 
You are quite kind to apologize, but I honestly do not see why it is necessary. I asked a question, based on "your" experience, and you answered my question based on your experiences. You were not presumptive in any way, did not overgeneralize or judge others.

Thank you, your answers were very informative and helpful. I appreciate the time you took to help out another person on their quest. You seriously answered me and my concern and I really appreciate your time.

I started this thread to ask questions and I appreciate your honesty and frank talking. I hope that you do not feel the need to quiet your answers because of reactions.

~Sunny


I apologize if my replay was insulting, I never intended for it to be. No, I don't think that counselling is the only way a person can develop. I agree most counselling is crap. I failed to mention she went to a phsychologist alone for about six months prior to us going to a sex therapist together. She felt is was a waste of time and at times felt insulted after some of the sessions.

I really feel we moved through this situation together, the sex therapist just provided a route of communication. They never did anything great other than encourage my wife to open up and share with me how she felt. I think I may have been misunderstood about the counselling

Congrats on the 59th B-day and again I am sorry that my replay offended you.
 
This is an interesting perspective. I do not think I was ever told that clitoral orgasm was something less, and that I should orgasm from penetration alone. I think that it is encouraging to get information about ways to expand one's experience, and when people get excited about what excites them, it should not be taken that it should excite everyone.

I was blown away by some of your statistics! Thank you for sharing, them-- it is all good info that is helpful to know!

Thanks again for taking the time to reply to my question-- I really appreciate your expertise and time.

~Sunny


Oh I have certainly explored my sexuality and that of others. :) I read far more than the average human being does about sex and have had wonderful and exploratory experiences with others. But what worries me is that so many people believe things that are blatantly false about female sexuality . . . falsehoods that are perpetuated by pornography and the fact that people are embarrassed to discuss sex on a candid but factual level.

Some women prefer men who have very large long penises, even though length doesn't really do much physiologically for women's orgasms. It may be the psychological factor that women find engaging in such circumstances. ;)

I'm also a big believer in female ejaculation and male prostate stimulation. But to tell a woman that she must orgasm only from vaginal stimulation is the same as telling a man that he must orgasm from only prostate stimulation, without any touching of his penis. This is the message that most women get most of the time and it is frustrating.
 
Also, I don't think I would really enjoy prostate manipulation without my 'penis' being involved.

you don't??? what the hell is wrong with you???

KIDDING!
:cool:

eh hem

I love giving a good prostate massage, the vulnerability, the trust, sensitivity and depth of oh
 
This is an interesting perspective. I do not think I was ever told that clitoral orgasm was something less, and that I should orgasm from penetration alone. I think that it is encouraging to get information about ways to expand one's experience, and when people get excited about what excites them, it should not be taken that it should excite everyone.

I was blown away by some of your statistics! Thank you for sharing, them-- it is all good info that is helpful to know!

Thanks again for taking the time to reply to my question-- I really appreciate your expertise and time.

~Sunny

A lot of women do get the message that they are supposed to orgasm from penetration only. Men and women get the idea that clitoral stimulation is "foreplay." In other words, what happens before the "real deal." If you doubt at all that many many women get this idea, that penetration and in-out thrusting is what is supposed to make women orgasm, then just look sometime at how many women write sex advice columnists begging for ways that they can orgasm the "normal" way from intercourse. Unfortunately, the advice columnists, instead of giving actual statistics about how this is often not possible for women, advise women to angle their clitorises against a man's pelvic bone (which isn't often enough to arouse a woman to orgasm, frankly).


I am happy to hear about how other people experiment and enjoy one another (particularly encouraging in the instance of monogamous relationships!) but I worry that women feel they must sacrifice their own sexual pleasure to that of their man's by not actually telling him what they want. Ideally, we should all be able to ask for what we want and need and if our sexual partners are loving, they should be happy to try it, assuming it doesn't involve breaking any laws or invite serious health concerns. :)
 
I apologize if my replay was insulting, I never intended for it to be. No, I don't think that counselling is the only way a person can develop. I agree most counselling is crap. I failed to mention she went to a phsychologist alone for about six months prior to us going to a sex therapist together. She felt is was a waste of time and at times felt insulted after some of the sessions.

I really feel we moved through this situation together, the sex therapist just provided a route of communication. They never did anything great other than encourage my wife to open up and share with me how she felt. I think I may have been misunderstood about the counselling

Congrats on the 59th B-day and again I am sorry that my replay offended you.

Thankyou as I said I realised that you probably didn't mean it to come over that way but having a wife who has walked the same road you must realise we can get quite touchy on the subject! :rose:

You are quite kind to apologize, but I honestly do not see why it is necessary. I asked a question, based on "your" experience, and you answered my question based on your experiences. You were not presumptive in any way, did not overgeneralize or judge others.

Thank you, your answers were very informative and helpful. I appreciate the time you took to help out another person on their quest. You seriously answered me and my concern and I really appreciate your time.

I started this thread to ask questions and I appreciate your honesty and frank talking. I hope that you do not feel the need to quiet your answers because of reactions.

~Sunny

You don't see the need for apologies? Well maybe not because of me being ultra sensitive on a subject I know something about, but it's always best to get things sorted isn't it rather than let hurt feelings fester? As I see it with this being a public message board it's about everybodys reactions not just your questions
 
Somehow Sun's thread became: 'Teach me about Sex with Boja987's wife'. Too much personal info for a public messageboard. I guess I've just become a prude at age 25. Anyway, if your peen aint rubbing her the right way you've still got two hands...try not to crush her though, one handed pushups daily. blah.
 
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