Political violence

[Hard_Rom]

One thing I find interesting is the press coverage. If a witness claims to have heard the perpetrator yelling Allah el Akbar, the press are all over it screaming about Muslim terrorists. This guy was said to have been shouting Britain First (a, UK, far right organisation) and the press wait for the police to confirm any right wing influences and are keen to brand him as insane.

ooh! A biased media! What do you know!

'Newspapers are in the business to sell newspapers not the news' I believe is the quote.

 

[underguy1]

I don't think you know anything about her. She had worked as an aid worker before being elected as an MP.

That fact makes me even more skeptical of her intent. A lot of these NGOs are propaganda (and more) fronts for western governments.

Anyone with the interests of Syrians at heart would be calling for the insurgency to be halted and supporting the Syrian government in fighting off the takfiris.

Not calling for putting NATO in there to further western interests. NATO is the heart of the problem.

 

[phrodeau]

I see a fault in your logic there.

There is no 'good' in wanting to bomb Syria.

That fact makes me even more skeptical of her intent. A lot of these NGOs are propaganda (and more) fronts for western governments.

Anyone with the interests of Syrians at heart would be calling for the insurgency to be halted and supporting the Syrian government in fighting off the takfiris.

Not calling for putting NATO in their to further western interests. NATO is the heart of the problem.

Make up your mind.

 

[underguy1]

Make up your mind.

What?

 

[Scotsman69]

Alas, no nation is gun free.

And the man suspected of murdering Jo Cox MP bought the manual on how to make the gun from a US racist website.

Died in a gun free nation.

The best government ever does is fail to protect you from yourself.

 

[phrodeau]

What?

You don't want bombs and you don't want NATO soldiers, but you want to help attack the takfiris. How exactly, send in missionaries?

 

[Liar]

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The man charged with the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox has appeared in court and been remanded in custody.

Thomas Mair gave his name as "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain", when he appeared at Westminster Magistrates' Court.
--

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36567005?SThisFB

Well, that should clear up any confusion on the terrorism issue. This guy is more of a clear cut terrorist than Omar Mateen.

 

[Hard_Rom]

More clear cut crazy but this may put him below Mateen on the murdering fuckhead list. Mateen was depressed, torn by unresolved homosexual leanings and a loser in life. This guy comes across as a total nutter.

Sane, good or evenly Godly folk don't commit murder.

Probably have to split the fine hairs difference between the two though.

Hopefully if there is an afterlife, Mateen's shade is getting an earful of himself being called a closet gay and loser.

 

[phrodeau]

More clear cut crazy but this may put him below Mateen on the murdering fuckhead list. Mateen was depressed, torn by unresolved homosexual leanings and a loser in life. This guy comes across as a total nutter.

Sane, good or evenly Godly folk don't commit murder.

Probably have to split the fine hairs difference between the two though.

Hopefully if there is an afterlife, Mateen's shade is getting an earful of himself being called a closet gay and loser.

Jared Lee Loughner is probably a more apt person to compare with Mr. Death to Britain.

 

[Liar]

More clear cut crazy but this may put him below Mateen on the murdering fuckhead list. Mateen was depressed, torn by unresolved homosexual leanings and a loser in life. This guy comes across as a total nutter.

They're both undoubtely crazy, but Mair's motive was more obviously political.

 

[underguy1]

You don't want bombs and you don't want NATO soldiers, but you want to help attack the takfiris. How exactly, send in missionaries?

By allowing the Syrian Arab Army along with their allies to get on with it. The takfiris are NATO proxies.

 

[phrodeau]

By allowing the Syrian Arab Army along with their allies to get on with it. The takfiris are NATO proxies.

I see. Do nothing then.

 

[underguy1]

I see. Do nothing then.

Clearly not.

The call would be to call the takfiris off and end the plan to destroy Syria.

 

[phrodeau]

Clearly not.

The call would be to call the takfiris off and end the plan to destroy Syria.

What an idiotic theory you have there.

 

[underguy1]

What an idiotic theory you have there.

It isn't a theory. The overthrow of Syria has been on the imperial drawing board for a long time. The insurgents are foreign. Armed, trained and funded by NATO and its client states in the GCC and Israel.

You're just naive and overwhelmed by propaganda.

 

[phrodeau]

I stand corrected. What an idiotic hypothesis you have there.

 

[underguy1]

I stand corrected. What an idiotic hypothesis you have there.

Petty abuse isn't going to change the reality. You are misinformed is all.

The war against Syria is an imperial project. Just like all the others they've done over the last 30 odd years.

And you haven't noticed a pattern yet.

Are you really that gullible that you believe your lying politicians and your lying press?

Or are you asleep?

 

[phrodeau]

Imperial is margarine, and you're talking out your ass.

 

[underguy1]

Imperial is margarine, and you're talking out your ass.

I can see I'm dealing with a true retard.

 

[JackLuis]

True that the Syrian Revolt is supported by various external factors, The CIA, the US Military, The Gulf Countries, and Turkey all have dogs in the fight and often they fight each other.

Clearly the resolution to the Syrian problem has to be solved by the Syrian and local people. We have no reason to fuck with it. The recent advances the Kurds and Iraqi's have made are good signs that the local people are getting a handle on the ISIS factions they are finding too evil for even Arabs to like, now that the Great Satan is pretty much gone from Iraq. It took the US more than five years to realize that Iraq was a money sucking sink hole no amount of firepower could subdue. The residue of Republican Democracy Spreading by dummies who didn't understand the basic principles of COIN warfare, is the Bathist/Jihadist movements.

The Obama/Clinton clusterfucks in Libya and Syria will just spread more crazy bastards over a wider area.

If it was up to me I'd arm the Kurds and let them drive the ISIS out of Kurdistan all the way to Damascus, and call it even.

 

[underguy1]

True that the Syrian Revolt is supported by various external factors, The CIA, the US Military, The Gulf Countries, and Turkey all have dogs in the fight and often they fight each other.

Clearly the resolution to the Syrian problem has to be solved by the Syrian and local people. We have no reason to fuck with it. The recent advances the Kurds and Iraqi's have made are good signs that the local people are getting a handle on the ISIS factions they are finding too evil for even Arabs to like, now that the Great Satan is pretty much gone from Iraq. It took the US more than five years to realize that Iraq was a money sucking sink hole no amount of firepower could subdue. The residue of Republican Democracy Spreading by dummies who didn't understand the basic principles of COIN warfare, is the Bathist/Jihadist movements.

The Obama/Clinton clusterfucks in Libya and Syria will just spread more crazy bastards over a wider area.

If it was up to me I'd arm the Kurds and let them drive the ISIS out of Kurdistan all the way to Damascus, and call it even.

ISIS is the US and the Kurds are no angels. And the pentagon is back big time.

Your Orientalist disdain for arabs is noted.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Trump is now using ex-cop bikers to control the girly-boy Democrat protesters.

 

[sr71plt]

Glad to see you're employed again, James.

 

[JackLuis]

LRAD’s, steel batons and armored personnel carriers: Cleveland cops stocking up before GOP convention

Anticipating massive demonstrations in the streets during the Republican National Convention in mid-July, Cleveland police authorities are using emergency funds to stock up on the latest in crowd control equipment — armoring themselves as if they are going to war.

According to the Washington Post, Cleveland officials are using a $50 million “security grant” to beef up security around the convention, but are not tipping their hand on everything that they have purchased which is alarming some civil liberties groups concerned about the rights of protesters.

Local police will be overseeing what they describe as “event zones,” where rallies, marches and other protests will be allowed to take place, with the Secret Service responsible for the “secure perimeter,” nearest to the convention hall.

Cleveland police are rumored to have obtained LRAD’s (Long Range Acoustical Device) normally used to keep pirates from boarding ships by emitting a non-lethal, but painful, beam of sound to drive people away, making it a popular tool for riot control.

Police have admitted that they have loaded up on riot gear — including full body armor — 2,000 retractable steel batons, 10,000 sets of plastic handcuffs, 16 Pointer Illuminator Aiming Lasers, security cameras, and riot-control staple tear gas — while keeping funds in reserve for anticipated overtime pay for officers who will have their hands full.

Cleveland gets new shiny Cop Equipment, probably stocking up on 00 buckshot too.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Cleveland LEO need a few of these.
https://tomfernandez28.com/2014/06/...-to-shoot-pepper-spray-bullets-at-protesters/

To be countered by
http://media2.hickorees.com/image/SlingShot_L1.jpg
I bet a wheel bearing from one of these things will take out a drone.