Psychological profile of alt-right supporters

[KimGordon67]

Lol. The alt left goons showed up to beat up and attack the so-called "nazi's" and it was one of them who ended up dead. I mean, no defense of violence, but seriously, these folks are literally retarded. They show up to attack people and they get the worst end of it.

Let's just have a bit of a think here, and see if we can work through to a sensible conclusion:

I think we can all agree that the alt-right have some fundamentally racist opinions, and in many instances, some fairly unpleasant views towards those who don't share their ethnic/national background. Many seem to happily adopt the signifiers of the Nazi party, so it's not really a leap to assume that's the political ideology they're aligning themselves with.

And I think we can also agree that the 'alt-left'/antifa group are opposed to the actions of groups such as this, and seem to be taking an 'any means necessary' approach - not something I necessarily agree with, although I'm sympathetic to the political position.

Let's be clear though - the antifa side of the equation don't do this against a defined ethnic group - they do it against groups of people who define themselves on the basis of wishing ill towards other groups. They're anti-facist, not anti-Jew or anti-Black - they're anti an ideology, not a specific ethnic group.

So, if one group wishes ill on particular peoples, at what point is OK to exercise violence in resistance to their ideology? When does that hatred stop being 'free speech' and become 'a clear risk to society/specific groups'?

 

[water505]

The Nazis are finding out that their brave chest-thumpin' behind the safety of a computer screen doesn't translate well in the real world. People show up to counter-protest and the Nazis don't have the numbers (can't make "real life alts" to puff up their numbers can they?)

You're talking about alts? Did you check with Pukey before posting your usual drivel?

 

[adrina]

Apparently, the truth is indeed not pretty.

 

[richard_daily]

Lol. The alt left goons showed up to beat up and attack the so-called "nazi's" and it was one of them who ended up dead. I mean, no defense of violence, but seriously, these folks are literally retarded. They show up to attack people and they get the worst end of it.

How are they "alleged" nazis... They call themselves nazis, national socialists, the alt-right, and trump supporters. These are their own words.

It sounds like you've got a lot in common with them. The only difference is that they're brave enough to do this reprehensible shit in public, while you're a coward hiding behind a keyboard.

They came to a peaceful town, spoiling for a fight and looking to spread their hateful rhetoric, and ended up murdering someone.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

How are they "alleged" nazis... They call themselves nazis, national socialists, the alt-right, and trump supporters. These are their own words.

It sounds like you've got a lot in common with them. The only difference is that they're brave enough to do this reprehensible shit in public, while you're a coward hiding behind a keyboard.

They came to a peaceful town, spoiling for a fight and looking to spread their hateful rhetoric, and ended up murdering someone.

... and showed up to their "peaceful rally" with mace, brass knuckles, shields, helmets ...

 

[OldJourno]

I think it's a little more complex than that.

Of course it is. The point I failed to make is that I am conservative.
I call myself that because I believe in free markets, limited government, more rights for the individuals. Lately, I'm not even sure what "right-wing" means.
And by individuals, I mean everyone. I'm tired of this mindless assumption that conservatives like me are racist, a viewpoint constantly pushed by a lot of people.
And I'll add that while Trump is in many respects a horrible president, there was nothing wrong with his first statement regarding the events in Charlottesville. Some people on both sides of the conflict behaved poorly, and some did not misbehave.
I'm pretty comfortable with the idea left-wing people support limited freedom.

 

[KimGordon67]

So specifically neoliberal, more than conservative. I'm not sure where I've given you the impression that I think you, or any other conservative, is racist. I think probably most racists are conservative, but I don't think all conservatives are racist. (I really wish Lit had a Venn diagramme function.)

Um ... someone died. I think that's a notch or two above 'poor behaviour'.
I haven't seen his first statement, but it seems that the problem was more the timing than the content. I understand he was 'waiting for all the facts', but he still could have expressed sorrow at the fact that someone died, in a political act, in America - I think those facts are pretty unassailable, regardless of circumstance.

Of course it is. The point I failed to make is that I am conservative.
I call myself that because I believe in free markets, limited government, more rights for the individuals. Lately, I'm not even sure what "right-wing" means.
And by individuals, I mean everyone. I'm tired of this mindless assumption that conservatives like me are racist, a viewpoint constantly pushed by a lot of people.
And I'll add that while Trump is in many respects a horrible president, there was nothing wrong with his first statement regarding the events in Charlottesville. Some people on both sides of the conflict behaved poorly, and some did not misbehave.
I'm pretty comfortable with the idea left-wing people support limited freedom.

 

[adrina]

Of course it is. The point I failed to make is that I am conservative.
I call myself that because I believe in free markets, limited government, more rights for the individuals. Lately, I'm not even sure what "right-wing" means.
And by individuals, I mean everyone. I'm tired of this mindless assumption that conservatives like me are racist, a viewpoint constantly pushed by a lot of people.
And I'll add that while Trump is in many respects a horrible president, there was nothing wrong with his first statement regarding the events in Charlottesville. Some people on both sides of the conflict behaved poorly, and some did not misbehave.
I'm pretty comfortable with the idea left-wing people support limited freedom.

A few statements/questions...

If you have voted for republicans who have participated in things like targeted voters suppression and gutting the voting rights act, then you have condoned and supported their racism. Oh sure, they have other policies that you say you like, but the reality is that the republican party has actively embraced the most racist elements in the country and have found it politically expedient to disenfranchise black voters.

How can it be appropriate to conflate "both sides" when one is against an ideology and one is against an entire race, or group of races? Antifa doesn't like fascism - and who does - but the neo-nazi's and alt-right are against other races - actual people. Not for what they philosophies, but because of their very existence.

How can you be comfortable with idea that the left opposing freedoms when it is the republicans/right that specifically seeks to limit gay marriage, abortion rights, voting rights, bathroom access etc....? Do you not see the log in your own eye?

 

[Hypoxia]

I think "socially-retarded uneducated low-status males" describes most of the alt.right.