Quick question...

[Fala]

okay, I just spewed coffee. (not out the nose though, only mouth)
Nicely done.

Ok...Har Har. I love it when a half-serious thread goes ass up.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Ok...Har Har. I love it when a half-serious thread goes ass up.

I apologize. Guns are serious business. I won't laugh in your threads ever again. Pinky swear.

 

[Rightguide]

concerning a nine millimeter gun.

The safety should be off. Not sure if a bullet is in the chamber.

Husband tells me that if no bullet is in the chamber on the first shoot, another bullet pops another one up so...

...if I shoot and nothing happens...I can just shoot again and hit my target?

Keep your hands off that gun until you understand completely how it functions and what the hell happens when the trigger is pulled no matter what "condition" it is in. In fact, don't even think about picking it up for any reason until you understand what I mean by the term "condition."

 

[RobDownSouth]

Let's Review!

In this thread, we have learned two new things:

• Fala is married
• Fala is to be considered armed and dangerous

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[HisArpy]

ok, pull out the manual and READ THE DAMN THING! Locate where all the operating levers and buttons are. Learn what they're called.

REMEMBER where the trigger is located and keep you finger away from there. It's natural for you to put your finger there, but DON'T DO IT. Not right now.

Remove the magazine. Just push the button that releases it and it will slide out of the bottom of the hand grip. DO NOT touch anything else, just the button.

Grab the slide while holding the grip (REMEMBER where you DON'T put that finger?) and while pointing the muzzle in a safe direction, pull the slide back. IF there's a round in the chamber, it will come out when you pull the slide back.

There's a lever on the side of the pistol which is called the slide lock. Push that up to engage the slide so it stays open.

The gun is now unloaded and safe. Put it back into the safe for now.

Go to the gun shop and buy some 9mm "snap caps". 9 mm. Not .357 or .40 or any other caliber - 9mm. "Snap caps" are plastic dummy bullets. Go home. Push the bullets out of the magazine and put ALL OF THEM them SOMEPLACE ELSE FAR AWAY from where you are. Yes it's a pain but get up off your butt and do it - it's for safety - yours and your neighbor's. Now, load the snap caps into the magazine - the FLAT END goes in first. Yes, I know it looks backward but that's the way they go in.

Put the magazine with the snap caps into the pistol, shoving upward until it clicks into place fully. (Remember where you DON'T put that finger?) Now, grab the slide, pull it to the rear and let go like a slingshot. (Watch that finger!!!) The slide should go forward all the way.

Point the muzzle where nothing will be hit if it accidentally does go boom (anywhere with a backstop except up, the window, people. or the dog) and pull the trigger. The gun will "click" because "snap caps" are not bullets. Nor are they "caps" like in a cap gun. They are totally inert and will do nothing.

Now, grab the slide and pull it all the way back and slingshot it again. (FINGER!!!) When you do that, the snap cap which was in the chamber will come flying out and another one will be loaded. Point in the safe direction again and pull the trigger. It should "click" again. Repeat until all the snap caps are cycled through the pistol and the slide stays open when you slingshot it. Magazine is empty.

Release the magazine by pushing the button. Release the slide by pushing the slide release lever so the slide goes fully forward again. Put it down.

NOW it's time to think.

Is the gun actually loaded? (Not "considered loaded" is it ACTUALLY loaded and ready to shoot?)

If not, why not?

If you put all the snap caps back into the magazine and shoved it home, would it be ready to shoot?

Or would you still need to do something to put the "bullet" (snap cap) into the chamber?

IF there is no REAL bullet in the chamber or if the chamber is empty, the gun will do nothing. It will just "click" like with the snap cap. In order for it to shoot, there MUST BE a bullet in the chamber. To do that you have to first load a filed magazine and then slingshot the slide.

DO NOT do this with live ammo unless you are at the gun range. At least not right now. Right now, we're talking theory and getting familiar with the pistol. Which is why I told you to go buy the snap caps.

In operation, with a live bullet in the chamber and more in the magazine, the gun will fire, cycle the slide and load another bullet with each pull of the trigger.

So in answer to your question, if there's no bullet in the chamber, the gun will just go "click" and do nothing. You can pull the trigger again and again and again all you want and it will STILL do nothing. BUT, with live ammo, and one in the chamber, the gun will fire when you pull the trigger if the safety is not engaged. It will ONLY fire 1 round per pull of the trigger.

Go buy the snap caps. Unload it and put the ammo somewhere else. Play with the snap caps until you are familiar with how the pistol works and where all the levers and buttons are and what they do. Pay attention to that finger, it WILL slip into position unless you concentrate on keeping it out of there. You must learn to make a conscious decision to put it on the trigger, not concentrate to keep it off of it. Your instincts are backward. Learn to over rule them.

When you are done playing, put the gun away. DO NOT load the magazine with live ammo at that point in time. IF you do, you will be tempted to "play" some more and you WILL have a negligent discharge. Play, stop, then load the live ammo later. Keep your dry fire practice and live ammo separate in both space and time.

Have someone take you to the range OR make an appointment with an instructor who can be there while you learn to do all of this with live ammo and shoot targets. Until you do, you are dangerous to yourself and others with the pistol.

 

[Hypoxia]

Keep your hands off that gun until you understand completely how it functions and what the hell happens when the trigger is pulled no matter what "condition" it is in. In fact, don't even think about picking it up for any reason until you understand what I mean by the term "condition."

THIS!

A firearm is never a toy and always a tricky tool. BTW the OP is dealing with a pistol, not a 'gun'. I see much sloppiness on this thread.

 

[Comshaw]

THIS!

A firearm is never a toy and always a tricky tool. BTW the OP is dealing with a pistol, not a 'gun'. I see much sloppiness on this thread.

gun
ɡən/
noun
noun: gun; plural noun: guns
1. a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.
synonyms: firearm, pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun, carbine, automatic, handgun, semiautomatic, machine gun, Uzi; More




Comshaw

 

[Hypoxia]

Drill sergeant waggles a pistol: THIS IS MY WEAPON
Drill sergeant fondles his cock: THIS IS MY GUN
Waggles pistol: THIS IS FOR KILLING
Fondles cock: THIS IS FOR FUN

A 'gun' is smoothbore. Not many rifled shotguns out there. 'Gun' referring to other firearms is sloppy labeling.

And @Comshaw, your <small> text is hard to read so I skip most of it.

 

[Hard_Rom]

gun
ɡən/
noun
noun: gun; plural noun: guns
1. a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.
synonyms: firearm, pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun, carbine, automatic, handgun, semiautomatic, machine gun, Uzi; More

Comshaw

Could also include large artillery pieces. But would not include particle beam weapons. Hence no ray guns or laser guns.

Rifling in shotguns disperses the shot pattern more. The Taurus Judge outside of Cali gets away with being a pistol instead of a sawed off shotgun due to it's rifling. At the ranges that a Judge or Public Defender are intended to engage at shot pattern dispersal is not a huge issue.

Large bore artillery pieces are now typically smoothbore. You have to spin a large shell quite fast to induce stability. Discarding SABOT and fins are the way to go with large caliber stuff. Thinking tanks here. Unsure of set artillery pieces or capital ship guns

 

[FGB]

concerning a nine millimeter gun.

The safety should be off. Not sure if a bullet is in the chamber.

Husband tells me that if no bullet is in the chamber on the first shoot, another bullet pops another one up so...

...if I shoot and nothing happens...I can just shoot again and hit my target?

Before you kill yourself or someone you don't want to go buy yourself one of these... https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/ta...gauge-singledouble-action-centerfire-revolver

Replace the grip with one of these... http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOGUE-RUBBE...2cad55a&pid=100005&rk=6&rkt=6&sd=112460986304

And by a box of these... https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/410-revolver-ammo-hornady-triple-defense/

or buy some 45LC ammo.

You will enjoy it. #4  loads are good for snakes.

Point at the middle of the door or somebody you want to be gone and pull the trigger.

 

[Comshaw]

Drill sergeant waggles a pistol: THIS IS MY WEAPON
Drill sergeant fondles his cock: THIS IS MY GUN
Waggles pistol: THIS IS FOR KILLING
Fondles cock: THIS IS FOR FUN

A 'gun' is smoothbore. Not many rifled shotguns out there. 'Gun' referring to other firearms is sloppy labeling.

And @Comshaw, your <small> text is hard to read so I skip most of it.

Of course you do. Not unexpected at all. Most who can't come up with a rational argument against logic resort to such things.

And I'm happy you can come up with your own definition for things, no matter what everyone else in the world thinks. You and thoe Donald would get along famously.


Comshaw

 

[Hypoxia]

And @Comshaw, your <small> text is hard to read so I skip most of it.

Of course you do. Not unexpected at all. Most who can't come up with a rational argument against logic resort to such things.

I just had surgery on both eyes -- the left 4 days ago, the right 2 weeks before. I have trouble reading your diminished text, even with the font pumped-up on my laptop. I won't even try on a phone. Your using small text means your don't really care if people read your stuff. If you wish, I'll just put you on ignore and go on with life. Ciao.

 

[dolf]

Guns are scary, tis true. I'd imagine that something even scarier is needing to use it, screwing it up, and your enemy taking it off you.

I'm anti gun, but I'm pro common sense. If you have it, learn it. Google a range, ask if they have someone who teaches gunphobics how to be safe.

 

[dolf]

THIS!

A firearm is never a toy and always a tricky tool. BTW the OP is dealing with a pistol, not a 'gun'. I see much sloppiness on this thread.

Nobody likes a pedant.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Nobody likes a pedant.

*reported.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Fala, my wife sells low-cost tasers on the side.


Look into that and bear spray and put the 9mm back in storage. Nothing is more dangerous than an untrained individual with a gun jacked on adrenaline. You can get bear spray at any sporting goods store, or you can get wasp spray at any big box store like Walmart. The latter doesn't pack the wallop, but it is still low-cost self-defense.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Guns are scary, tis true. I'd imagine that something even scarier is needing to use it, screwing it up, and your enemy taking it off you.

I'm anti gun, but I'm pro common sense. If you have it, learn it. Google a range, ask if they have someone who teaches gunphobics how to be safe.

The best training would be to take a conceal and carry class because they go in more depth than just training, but also include a overview of the legal aspects of the issue.