Racial Fatigue?

[CandiCame]

Oh... there should be people who say "false and homosexual" instead of "fake and gay" to shitty youtube videos. Call it intellectual, or prim and proper.

Tou is more real than the usual 50 cent brigade. He's able to answer without madness.

Yeah but those people exist. Nobody's said Oriental in like a century. It's not something he could have picked up from the elderly, it's something a troll would go out of their way to say. Calling something gay because you think that questioning a person's heterosexuality is an insult is a common cultural practice for douchebags. Calling someone "Oriental" isn't. It's so uncommon that you'd have to do it on purpose. You'd also have to know what Oriental and Occidental were, as terms, and the troll persona that Tou's trying to convey isn't smart enough to do that.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Where the hell do you live that Oriental isn't a perfectly good substitute for Asian? Now we can debate if Asian is a term that makes any sense to use since it very clearly doesn't cover everybody on that continent in common conversation but still.

How have my assertions been debunked? Twenty five years after the publication of The Bell Curve it is more obvious than ever that blacks on the average are considerably less intelligent than whites and Orientals.

Look at these charts with racial averages of SAT and ACT scores:

shttp://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/diplay.asp?id=171

http://www.blackexcel.org/06-sat-act-scores-by-race-ethnicity.htm

The failure of No Child Left Behind confirms assertions made in The Bell Curve.

Everywhere on earth and always throughout history the Negro race has been characterized by crime, stupidity, and illegitimate children. Where are the great civilizations they have created? Where on earth is there a viable society with a black majority population? Where is there any evidence that those people can create an advanced civilization without white tutelage?

Those are not rhetorical questions. I would like for you to try to answer them.

I post facts. You post insults.

The Bell Curve was never proven in the first place, the failure of No Child Left Behind is that it was a bad program, it doesn't confirm shit other than taking money from failing schools is not a plan that will get you good results. It ranks right up there with pouring grease on a fire and them complaining it didn't go out.

Where is Egypt? It's that country that has pyramids. There were lots of various countries in Africa over history we just don't teach about them in school because ultimately they don't matter to US history and everything we teach in school is Amerocentric. We basically teach Rome until Europe becomes big, Europe until America gets big. It's not because the rest of the world didn't exist.

The big snag for blacks was getting around the Sahara was a bitch for the longest time so everybody on the wrong side of it ended up kinda screwed by history, but that was dumb luck not a deficiency in the people.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Where the hell do you live that Oriental isn't a perfectly good substitute for Asian? Now we can debate if Asian is a term that makes any sense to use since it very clearly doesn't cover everybody on that continent in common conversation but still.

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Asians can be Caucasians. They can even be Arabs. When I say "Orientals" I mean Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, and Vietnamese.

 

[The_Trouvere]

The Bell Curve was never proven in the first place.

The truth of The Bell Curve is obvious to anyone who has tried to teach blacks in public school.

 

[The_Trouvere]

the failure of No Child Left Behind is that it was a bad program, it doesn't confirm shit other than taking money from failing schools is not a plan that will get you good results. It ranks right up there with pouring grease on a fire and them complaining it didn't go out.

Yeah sure, No Child Left Behind was a bad program, just like all the other programs that have tried and failed to bring blacks up to white standards.

One can always invent excuses for black failures. One cannot find examples of black successes, except as exceptions to the rule.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Where is Egypt? It's that country that has pyramids. There were lots of various countries in Africa over history we just don't teach about them in school because ultimately they don't matter to US history and everything we teach in school is Amerocentric. We basically teach Rome until Europe becomes big, Europe until America gets big. It's not because the rest of the world didn't exist.

We know from DNA evidence and abundant paintings that they left of themselves that the Egyptians were more closely related to Europeans than to Negroes further south.

 

[The_Trouvere]

The big snag for blacks was getting around the Sahara was a bitch for the longest time so everybody on the wrong side of it ended up kinda screwed by history, but that was dumb luck not a deficiency in the people.

History consists of written records. The Bantu never developed their own system of writing. Unlike the pre Columbian Indians in what is now southern Mexico, Central America, and Peru, they never developed indigenous civilizations.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Asians can be Caucasians. They can even be Arabs. When I say "Orientals" I mean Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, and Vietnamese.

Except nobody uses Asians to mean caucasians or arabs. Despite where it's located nobody considers Russia to be part of Asia and the Middle East is the Middle East and again nobody calls them Asians. Where things get fuzzy is with India and Samoa.

The truth of The Bell Curve is obvious to anyone who has tried to teach blacks in public school.

No, it's not. You can keep claiming that but you repeating bullshit doesn't make it true.

Yeah sure, No Child Left Behind was a bad program, just like all the other programs that have tried and failed to bring blacks up to white standards.

One can always invent excuses for black failures. One cannot find examples of black successes, except as exceptions to the rule.

One can find plenty of examples of black success actually as was pointed out below. However, NCLB was just a bad program, it had nothing to do with the race of the people being "helped".

White standards?

We know from DNA evidence and abundant paintings that they left of themselves that the Egyptians were more closely related to Europeans than to Negroes further south.

They are stiill Africans, still blacks. You don't get to arbitrarily claim that because they don't fit some mystical standard of racial purity that they don't qualify.

 

[PoppingTom]

One can always invent excuses for black failures. One cannot find examples of black successes, except as exceptions to the rule.

One can always play the ignoramus, like you do.

 

[PoppingTom]

Yeah but those people exist. Nobody's said Oriental in like a century. It's not something he could have picked up from the elderly, it's something a troll would go out of their way to say. Calling something gay because you think that questioning a person's heterosexuality is an insult is a common cultural practice for douchebags. Calling someone "Oriental" isn't. It's so uncommon that you'd have to do it on purpose. You'd also have to know what Oriental and Occidental were, as terms, and the troll persona that Tou's trying to convey isn't smart enough to do that.

I quit expecting smartness when it comes to political questions. I was once on a German board with VERY strict rules of discussion. You're not only had to be decent, but on topic and responding the right way. Beside that, every discussion about everything was allowed, but if you violated the rules or showed trollish behavior, you've got first a degradation, and banned, if you didn't changed. I experienced some very deep discussions there, in a very friendly atmosphere, but I never met people changing their mind, and a lot of people were able to wrap their stupid or undeveloped ideas in words of first class C&P quality.

We rarely come that deep here, and that's why we don't know much about the reasons people have their opinions. I can guess it on JBJ or query, but most get lost in the turf war with the trolls here. Maybe you're right, and trou only plays a game. But he shall get the chance to play honest before he's been invited in The Hall of Trolls.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

http://36.media.tumblr.com/7b0b5c52361a885283e056acd230f698/tumblr_n8cshb6Pmc1slblyeo1_1280.jpg

Gonna keep putting this on broadcast. There's really nothing more to say.

 

[Que]

You're that old?

I've learned BASIC on the KC85/II, a GDR produced home computer with unbelievable 16 kb RAM.

https://putzlowitsch.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/kc85-3.jpg

I worked at an appliance electronics store after that. When I carved out the job of A/R manager I needed a desktop computer, so I pulled one from inventory. It was a hassle with switching in and out the floppy discs, so I called up the distributor and told them we would like to see one of their new hard drives for the IBM clones we sold. The hard drives were not yet available even at wholesale.

I was pleased with the roughly $320 unit. Since its capacity was 320,000 bytes, it worked out to one dollar a Kilobyte. Not Megabyte. Kilobyte. No one had megabytes then. I have 32 gigabytes on the memory card in my phone now.

 

[CandiCame]

Where the hell do you live that Oriental isn't a perfectly good substitute for Asian? Now we can debate if Asian is a term that makes any sense to use since it very clearly doesn't cover everybody on that continent in common conversation but still.



The Bell Curve was never proven in the first place, the failure of No Child Left Behind is that it was a bad program, it doesn't confirm shit other than taking money from failing schools is not a plan that will get you good results. It ranks right up there with pouring grease on a fire and them complaining it didn't go out.

Where is Egypt? It's that country that has pyramids. There were lots of various countries in Africa over history we just don't teach about them in school because ultimately they don't matter to US history and everything we teach in school is Amerocentric. We basically teach Rome until Europe becomes big, Europe until America gets big. It's not because the rest of the world didn't exist.

The big snag for blacks was getting around the Sahara was a bitch for the longest time so everybody on the wrong side of it ended up kinda screwed by history, but that was dumb luck not a deficiency in the people.

Dude nobody's said "oriental" since they were working on the railroad. I think that maybe they MIGHT have said it on Gun?? I seem to remember that. Because that was the time period when people did that. Cowboy times. If you can say "Oriental" in relation to a human being, you can call in the cavalry and get your mail via the pony express.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Like I said, WHERE is this term not used and regularly enough that nobody is at all confused about what it means?

 

[PoppingTom]

History consists of written records.

Not in a lot of parts in Africa. Spoken and sung words were the media since maybe hundred thousand years. One reason blacks have much more outstanding musicians.

You can still find people in Africa living like hundred thousand years before, having nearly no clothes, no residences in any way, hunting with a spear. You put them out of Africa, to America, and gave them.....what exactly?

That's why I said it's a social aspect, not one of race.

 

[CandiCame]

Like I said, WHERE is this term not used and regularly enough that nobody is at all confused about what it means?

The continental United States? I'd venture to say that the continent of Asia doesn't use it either, since they aren't Oriental in geographic terms relative to themselves. The only place it would ever make sense at all is in Europe, where Asia would actually be Eastern. I've heard it in US culture a grand total of 3 times in my entire life, and it was a joke in 2 of them, and it was used in order to establish a time period in the other.

1 was in Hair Spray where John Travolta's character runs an "Occidental Laundry" which is a joke on an old TV commercial about a Chinese couple who ran an "Oriental Laundry" and claimed that they had an ancient Chinese special formula for cleaning shit- but it turned out to just be Tide and the ability to fool white people by using words like "Oriental" and "Chinese" and pretending to be the kind of people who sell Mogwai with the wash. I should also mention that I was watching this with 5 other people and I was the ONLY ONE who got this joke. One of the people I was watching it with was Asian. Well... half Asian. His mom is one of those hot Fillapina women inexplicably married to an ugly, fat, redneck guy. But still. I feel like he should have got that joke.

Another was in Avenue Q, and it was used as a joke when a guy called his wife "Oriental" and was, in the next line, called out for talking like a grizzled prospector.

And I /think/ that they used it in the PS2 game gun to refer to immigrant Chinese workers who were working on the railroad- the historical context in which the term was actually used. Those are the only times I've ever heard it, outside of period novels or something, but those still tend to refer to the place as "the Orient" and the people as whatever they are- sometimes incorrectly. Seems like a lot of period novels use the term "Chinaman" to mean "person of either gender from Southeast Asia". As if they thought that China was the only country in southeast Asia.

 

[1sickbastard]

There was a rail service that ran from Paris to Istanbul called (drum roll) The Orient Express.
This is because the "Orient" meant Asia, and Istanbul sat across the Bosporus from Asia Minor (modern day Turkey).
Asia Minor, the Levant & Egypt were known as the "Near East", Mesopotamia to the frontiers of British Colonial India (modern day Pakistan) was the "Middle East", and everything east of India was the "Far East". The only reason Russia wasn't considered the orient is because Russia was Christian.

In many ways, the distinction of Europe & Asia as being two separate continents is a holdover from ancient perceptions and cultural differences. A closer approximation of reality is that "Europe" isn't a continent, but peninsula on the west coast of the Eurasian Landmass

 

[PoppingTom]

The only place it would ever make sense at all is in Europe, where Asia would actually be Eastern.

Yes, but for most European, "Orient" is mostly linked with Arabia, Persia, a little bit India.

Japan, China or Vietnam is Far East or simply Asia for us.

 

[The_Trouvere]

There was a rail service that ran from Paris to Istanbul called (drum roll) The Orient Express.
This is because the "Orient" meant Asia, and Istanbul sat across the Bosporus from Asia Minor (modern day Turkey).
Asia Minor, the Levant & Egypt were known as the "Near East", Mesopotamia to the frontiers of British Colonial India (modern day Pakistan) was the "Middle East", and everything east of India was the "Far East". The only reason Russia wasn't considered the orient is because Russia was Christian.

In many ways, the distinction of Europe & Asia as being two separate continents is a holdover from ancient perceptions and cultural differences. A closer approximation of reality is that "Europe" isn't a continent, but peninsula on the west coast of the Eurasian Landmass

"Asia" started out as one of several provinces in what is now Turkey. It makes no sense for Asia to be thought of as a single continent. It is too large and diverse. It makes no sense for Asians to be thought of as a single race.

What I means by "Orientals" are Mongoloid people whose civilizations have been shaped by China. They have an average IQ of 106. They are going to dominate the world. Whites are in decline.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Not in a lot of parts in Africa. Spoken and sung words were the media since maybe hundred thousand years. One reason blacks have much more outstanding musicians.

You can still find people in Africa living like hundred thousand years before, having nearly no clothes, no residences in any way, hunting with a spear. You put them out of Africa, to America, and gave them.....what exactly?

That's why I said it's a social aspect, not one of race.

Negroes who were brought to the United States as slaves were introduced to a civilization vastly superior than anything they have been able to create on their own. That is why their descendents are much better off than Negroes still in Africa.

 

[PoppingTom]

What I means by "Orientals" are Mongoloid people whose civilizations have been shaped by China. They have an average IQ of 106. They are going to dominate the world. Whites are in decline.

http://www.baselland.ch/fileadmin/baselland/pics/docs/uebrige/mit_pol/2005/109_g.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJT_MKA3i04

 

[PoppingTom]

Negroes who were brought to the United States as slaves were introduced to a civilization vastly superior than anything they have been able to create on their own.

Because they never had to.

 

[The_Trouvere]

http://www.baselland.ch/fileadmin/baselland/pics/docs/uebrige/mit_pol/2005/109_g.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJT_MKA3i04

Definition of MONGOLOID

1: of, constituting, or characteristic of a race of humankind native to Asia and classified according to physical features (as the presence of an epicanthic fold)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mongoloid

 

[The_Trouvere]

Because they never had to.

I guess they preferred eating each other.

Because they never had to develop civilization they never evolved the ability to behave in a civilized manner. That is why they need to be subdued with a harsh criminal justice system.

 

[PoppingTom]

Definition of MONGOLOID

1: of, constituting, or characteristic of a race of humankind native to Asia and classified according to physical features (as the presence of an epicanthic fold)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mongoloid

Why not calling them Asian? Everybody does it, everybody knows what it means.