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PrettyLilPussy19 said:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldpnbaT9lt1qd1tpno1_500.jpg
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The scarf over her head! Kind of objectifying? I think i like it. :eek:


cookiecat said:
I do like seeing fat women doing stuff - playing, fucking, being kinky - vs the lingerie shot.

I'm wondering if the use of the word fat is --- not politically correct? In the past I've used euphimisms - chunky, fluffy, rubenesque. I see "fat" as an adjective. Like, I'm short. I have reddish hair. I'm fat. It's not a bad or good thing. Just a word.

Or not?
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I tend to avoid using it because it feels negative to me, but should it? Maybe we should take it back by using it in a neutral way?

Who said recently somewhere, 'I'm fat AND I'm sexy.' 🤔 We can be both.
 
I had an employee, some years ago, the was ‘large’.
She had a wonderful personality and killer eyes and smile.
I still think of her. Incredibly sexy.
 
cookiecat said:
I do like seeing fat women doing stuff - playing, fucking, being kinky - vs the lingerie shot.

I'm wondering if the use of the word fat is --- not politically correct? In the past I've used euphimisms - chunky, fluffy, rubenesque. I see "fat" as an adjective. Like, I'm short. I have reddish hair. I'm fat. It's not a bad or good thing. Just a word.

Or not?
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I think there's a bit of a political push to 'reclaim' the term 'fat', and there's a academic area referred to as 'fat studies' which addresses ... well, some of the stuff we've discussed, although probably not so much the kinky shit.
But, like everything, the change will be generational. I think it'll be difficult for people our age to accept the notion of 'fat' as positive, or even neutral. (Although I may be wrong.)

I've actually been thinking about the ongoing discussion we're sort of having across various threads, and wondered if the other thing that's missing is considering *age* ... for me, the extra stuff I suddenly seems to have that mostly, but not always, translates as 'fat' is definitely to do with having an aging body. WTF is it with the sudden extra bit in my underarms? And menopause just seems to mean twice as much tummy as one is used to. I read somewhere menopausal women have to exercise something like twice as much to get the same effect.

And all that just contributes to the fact that I'm feeling my own mortality more than I ever used to.
(Sorry, I should have had this rant in my own thread, instead of derailing this one.)
 
indiesoul said:
For me, this is the most important bit. I'm a chunky girl. That's obvious. It's a fact. But when a guy tries to pretend like I'm not... as if admitting that I'm fat would make it true. That's a turn off. When a guy touches and kisses all the parts of me except the jiggly bits... as if they're not there. That's a turn off. But when a guy openly adores every inch of me, when he takes the time to kiss every insecurity away, when he tells me that my curvy body IS his fantasy.... that's everything.
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:heart:

My ex-BF used to say he loves my belly because it's me, and he loves me. (Pity that he turned out to be a sociopath, but I guess you can't have everything. :rolleyes: )
 
TANSTAAFL58 said:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/a93a27612dcf2d4297d62a0c00e34e83/3d18d3c57ed6a14d-83/s2048x3072/621bc629eb3c64fcdc8ea86e781e4d38fe9ab043.jpg







The response was already forming in my mind, and then I saw it written so much better than I could have. Perfect Mei5ter.

Women don't understand what men like. The pic in question is of a very pretty woman with a smoking hot body, great taste in lingerie, some nice ink, well manicure nails, and an obvious sexy attitude to go with it. And a tummy roll and a small scar and chubby thighs. I would be pleased to kiss the tummy roll, caress the scar and part those delicious thighs so I can carry on...Uh, give me a minute...

And yeah, I have a friend who I believe would settle for nothing less than a Supermodel. He's in his mid-forties and single, and frankly, I'd be surprised if he's had sex in 2020.
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The idea that there is a single 'type', which is the one, true standard which women have to aspire to be and men have to find desirable, becomes increasingly ridiculous the more you think about it.
 
cookiecat said:
I'm wondering if the use of the word fat is --- not politically correct? In the past I've used euphimisms - chunky, fluffy, rubenesque. I see "fat" as an adjective. Like, I'm short. I have reddish hair. I'm fat. It's not a bad or good thing. Just a word.

Or not?
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Fat is what I leave on my plate when eating prime rib.

I weigh more than I should for my 5'4" therefore I am overweight.
I am not fat. I am much more pervy, hot, and sexy than that.
 
Mei5ter said:
The idea that there is a single 'type', which is the one, true standard which women have to aspire to be and men have to find desirable, becomes increasingly ridiculous the more you think about it.
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... yet that's what we see most of the time.

I'm watching Love is Blind at the moment (yes, I know, I know ...), and it feels like the women really look a lot the same. Ethnicity is obviously the major variable, but that sort of divides the women into two groups that are pretty similar otherwise. Gianina and the slightly older woman are the two exceptions. (Not Jessica - the other one.) The guys are actually pretty variable - they all seem to have six packs, but I can tell them apart pretty easily.

And this is in a show in which *looks are meant to be irrelevant*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
KimGordon67 said:
... yet that's what we see most of the time.

I'm watching Love is Blind at the moment (yes, I know, I know ...), and it feels like the women really look a lot the same. Ethnicity is obviously the major variable, but that sort of divides the women into two groups that are pretty similar otherwise. Gianina and the slightly older woman are the two exceptions. (Not Jessica - the other one.) The guys are actually pretty variable - they all seem to have six packs, but I can tell them apart pretty easily.

And this is in a show in which *looks are meant to be irrelevant*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ah, I don't watch Love is Blind. I'm far too busy watching something improving like My 600lb Life...

There is a certain type of beauty which fashion designers have tended to go for over the last 60 years, and that's the exceptionally tall and slim variety. Presumably, that's the body shape which is easiest to design clothes for, because it doesn't have any inconvenient curves messing up the lines. And then images of those women become ubiquitous because fashion is ubiquitous, and if you want to buy those clothes and have them look good on you, you need to be that shape. Massive oversimplification, but I think that's broadly right?

But for the rest of human history, things have been different. We worshipped fertility goddesses with exaggerated curves. Rubens painted...exactly. And sure enough, when it comes to porn and what people actually find sexually attractive rather than aesthetically pleasing in a fashion sense, we're often back to big boobs and a curvy butt. So you have this weird situation where fashion models are generally underweight, while glamour models are having boob jobs and lipowhatever. Except the glamour and porn side isn't seen as respectable, so it tends to be the fashion pictures that enter the mainstream. But if you look back at perceptions of beauty through the ages, it's curves all the way.

You know all this far better than I do, I'm sure. But I think a gentle reminder of why a 5'2" curvy redhead is no less anything than a 6'2" slim blonde doesn't hurt once in a while. Both are just fine.
 
Mei5ter said:
Ah, I don't watch Love is Blind. I'm far too busy watching something improving like My 600lb Life...

There is a certain type of beauty which fashion designers have tended to go for over the last 60 years, and that's the exceptionally tall and slim variety. Presumably, that's the body shape which is easiest to design clothes for, because it doesn't have any inconvenient curves messing up the lines. And then images of those women become ubiquitous because fashion is ubiquitous, and if you want to buy those clothes and have them look good on you, you need to be that shape. Massive oversimplification, but I think that's broadly right?

But for the rest of human history, things have been different. We worshipped fertility goddesses with exaggerated curves. Rubens painted...exactly. And sure enough, when it comes to porn and what people actually find sexually attractive rather than aesthetically pleasing in a fashion sense, we're often back to big boobs and a curvy butt. So you have this weird situation where fashion models are generally underweight, while glamour models are having boob jobs and lipowhatever. Except the glamour and porn side isn't seen as respectable, so it tends to be the fashion pictures that enter the mainstream. But if you look back at perceptions of beauty through the ages, it's curves all the way.

You know all this far better than I do, I'm sure. But I think a gentle reminder of why a 5'2" curvy redhead is no less anything than a 6'2" slim blonde doesn't hurt once in a while. Both are just fine.
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Exactly this.

Fat, skinny, curvy, straight - we all deserve to have our own thread. :cattail:
 
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for the rest: https://imgur.com/a/9GvzV0V

~Faithfully His;
Angie :rose:​
 
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indiesoul said:
For me, this is the most important bit. I'm a chunky girl. That's obvious. It's a fact. But when a guy tries to pretend like I'm not... as if admitting that I'm fat would make it true. That's a turn off. When a guy touches and kisses all the parts of me except the jiggly bits... as if they're not there. That's a turn off. But when a guy openly adores every inch of me, when he takes the time to kiss every insecurity away, when he tells me that my curvy body IS his fantasy.... that's everything.
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Thanks for writing this, Indie ♡. I've not yet had someone like that, though when my ex told me he preferred curves and tummies my reply was literally " post pre-me in Ravishingly Reubenesque or it didn't happen!" Lol. He made great strides with me in loving my own skin. I'm still not there. Posting ^ that^ was more than a bit terrifying, but I'm proud of me for facing my fears.
 
indiesoul said:
For me, this is the most important bit. I'm a chunky girl. That's obvious. It's a fact. But when a guy tries to pretend like I'm not... as if admitting that I'm fat would make it true. That's a turn off. When a guy touches and kisses all the parts of me except the jiggly bits... as if they're not there. That's a turn off. But when a guy openly adores every inch of me, when he takes the time to kiss every insecurity away, when he tells me that my curvy body IS his fantasy.... that's everything.
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Wonderfully said, indie :heart:
 
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