Recount?

[Conager]

“How odd is it that we must jump through bureaucratic hoops and raise millions of dollars so we can trust our election results,” Stein tweeted.

Too much green.....ya know

How many trees are her lawyers gonna lay waste to?

Personally, I like seing them waste the money.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I want foodstamps, I get an ID!





Then I use the ID and food stamps to buy general mad dog 20-20!


But I won't show it to vote! That's DE-scrimi-NATION!

 

[Ishmael]

Where the real fun in all this is is in the press.

When it first started it was "Stien-Hillary." Then as the effort gained some traction it became "Stein-Hillary-Hillary." Then when Clinton joined in it became, "Hillary-Hillary-Hillary-stein."

Now that the whole thing is turning into the embarrassing fiasco that it was doomed to be from the beginning it's now, "Stein, all Stein, and nothing but Stein."

You gotta love the rascals.

Ishmael

 

[Beco]

Where the real fun in all this is is in the press.

When it first started it was "Stien-Hillary." Then as the effort gained some traction it became "Stein-Hillary-Hillary." Then when Clinton joined in it became, "Hillary-Hillary-Hillary-stein."

Now that the whole thing is turning into the embarrassing fiasco that it was doomed to be from the beginning it's now, "Stein, all Stein, and nothing but Stein."

You gotta love the rascals.

Ishmael

Hillary finally said its a waste of time and resources.....

 

[JoanneA]

Here's what you paid for. Don't think too hard.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/03/us/jill-stein-pennsylvania-recount.html?_r=0&referer=

 

[water505]

Where the real fun in all this is is in the press.

When it first started it was "Stien-Hillary." Then as the effort gained some traction it became "Stein-Hillary-Hillary." Then when Clinton joined in it became, "Hillary-Hillary-Hillary-stein."

Now that the whole thing is turning into the embarrassing fiasco that it was doomed to be from the beginning it's now, "Stein, all Stein, and nothing but Stein."

You gotta love the rascals.

Ishmael

The Clintons are the Typhoid Mary of American politics. They infect everyone who gets too close to them.

 

[Beco]

Here's what you paid for. Don't think too hard.


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/03/us/jill-stein-pennsylvania-recount.html?_r=0&referer=

I think actually threatening the Electoral College people that actually cast the Electoral Votes, is a better strategy....

Use the same sort of mob tatics that got rid of Bernie Sanders.....

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The recount effort wasn't fair because it wasn't properly funded...



FUCKING OBSTRUCTIONIST REPUBLICANS!!!


Their own candidate said the fix was in and now they won't pay to fix it???



IMPEACH THE ILLIGITIMATE BASTARD!!!

Plus, by making deals, he's not only engaging in crony Capitalism and conflicts of interest, he's interfering with the rightful President of the US Barack Obama, who was in the middle of an even better deal with Carrier...

WE AGREE WITH SARAH PALIN!​

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I think actually threatening the Electoral College people that actually cast the Electoral Votes, is a better strategy....

Use the same sort of mob tatics that got rid of Bernie Sanders.....

Burnin' down the house!

If you want your children to survive
And you want to stay alive...
Better change your vote!

 

[about_average]

You have a bad habit of saying really stupid things and being unable to back up the nonsense coming out of your mouth. Attacking someone who questions you only serves to make you look like a fucking moron. I learn something new here every day.

Nice dodge of my question.

 

[about_average]

So just shut the fuck up about that ridiculous red herring.

LMAO
Too funny, coming from someone who never misses a chance to whine about "ballot box stuffing" with zero evidence. And from someone who thinks an ID is more important than actually knowing a vote goes to the person intended.
And don't even pretend you don't think that. Your ratio of "voter fraud":"no audit trail" posts is astronomical.

 

[water505]

Nice dodge of my question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by water505 View Post
What is so difficult about getting an ID?

Your reply:
If you got out more you wouldn't have to ask.

If it's so easy for everyone, explain the opposition to ensuring everyone can.

You are a complete and total waste of time, space, and oxygen.

 

[Conager]

I want foodstamps, I get an ID!





Then I use the ID and food stamps to buy general mad dog 20-20!


But I won't show it to vote! That's DE-scrimi-NATION!

It's meaningless and anecdotal but did you ever see the man on the street interview with black people in Brooklyn asking them about IDs?

The look on their faces when asked not only did they have IDs themselves do they know how someone who didn't have one would get one, did they know where the MVD was and how hard would it be for them to get to the MVD?

The look on their faces was priceless. Why would you think I wouldn't know that kind of a look?

The interviewer goes on to lead the witness quite a bit. He gets them around to the idea that anyone pushing that a black person wouldn't have the ability, resources or smarts to go get an ID is really being ultimately fairly insulting and racist.

I found it. My characterization above might be off a bit I'd forgotten about the fact that it's a two-part video where they actually interviewed a bunch of liberals about why it is they thought blacks could not get ideas.

http://dailyheadlines.net/2016/11/video-the-best-video-to-teach-white-liberals-about-blacks-and-ids/

This is actually a link to a blog post that has that video embedded in it. I'm not able right now to dig out the embed.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It's all about to really get "In your face!"

The classic:

"Why are you here?"

"To get some money."

"What kind of money?"

"Obama money."

"Where's it coming from?

"Obama."

"And where did Obama get it?"

"I don't know... his stash, I don't know. I don't know where he got it from, but he's givin' it t'us to help us. We love him. That's why we voted for him... Obama! Obama!"

Six Times
Mm-Mm, That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!
http://moonbattery.com/Melowese-Richardson.jpg
That's what I voted for!
6 TIMES!

__________________

I bitched about Bush for six years, and through all that time the Republicans on this board never trashed me the way the Democrats do now that "their guy" is "in charge."

They were angry when Bush was President, but they seem even more angry now that Obama is President.

Maybe it's just disappointment.

Maybe, it's who they really are and have been all along.
A_J, the Wiser

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I see the pick link is finally dead.


Maybe I can find her mug shot...

 

[about_average]

Quote:
Originally Posted by water505 View Post
What is so difficult about getting an ID?

Your reply:
If you got out more you wouldn't have to ask.

If it's so easy for everyone, explain the opposition to ensuring everyone can.

You are a complete and total waste of time, space, and oxygen.

Oh no! You've put me on ignore. I'm crushed.

And I notice you're still not answering my question.

 

[renard_ruse]

LMAO
Too funny, coming from someone who never misses a chance to whine about "ballot box stuffing" with zero evidence. And from someone who thinks an ID is more important than actually knowing a vote goes to the person intended.
And don't even pretend you don't think that. Your ratio of "voter fraud":"no audit trail" posts is astronomical.

Obviously ID's are the most critical aspect of electoral legitimacy. That's why the DNC fights it so much.

There were at least 3 million non-citizens who voted due to "motor voter" laws like in California, and no ID laws in other states.

The system is still rigged in favor of establishment Democrats, regardless of whether Trump won or not. It was actually a much larger victory when you subtract the illegal voters.

 

[renard_ruse]

SEIU, using Soros money, organizes and even transports non-citizens to vote.

In Maricopa County this happened on a mass scale to defeat Sherrif Joe. Soros worked with La Raza and racist Hispanic groups to bring non-citizens to vote. Soros doesn't even deny his involvement. They plan to use this model nationally in 2018 and beyond, they have even said so.

The sad part is, many of these non-citizens don't even know why they voting the way they are. They are told how to vote by those organizing the transport, etc.

 

[Conager]

LMAO
Too funny, coming from someone who never misses a chance to whine about "ballot box stuffing" with zero evidence. And from someone who thinks an ID is more important than actually knowing a vote goes to the person intended.
And don't even pretend you don't think that. Your ratio of "voter fraud":"no audit trail" posts is astronomical.

I have to say more than once that I completely agree that an audit trail is a good idea??


An audit trail is meaningless if you don't know if the people that voted should have had purple fingers or not or if you're going to allow people to dip their thumb in the purple ink a second time.

And you don't get to scream no evidence about something that you do not want evidence to be possible for. You want an audit of your individual vote but you don't want an audit of the entire vote.

Incredible that we have a situation where the very same people who scream there's no way anyone's ever stuffed The Ballot Box in the back room of a democratic only stronghold precinct thinks that the Russians snuck into the back room of Republican precincts and did the same thing.

 

[OldJourno]

If you think the recounts are ridiculous ...
Before the election, lawyers for Democrats in Phoenix went to court to ask that votes be counted when cast by voters who showed up at the wrong polling place.
This may not seem like a big deal, but the Phoenix metro area includes dozens of political subdivisions. A polling place two miles from another polling place may be in a different school district, fire district, city or water district with separate boards.
OK, so why would Democrats go to court to allow voting in the wrong precinct? The lawyers argued that requiring people to vote in the proper precinct was discriminatory to minorities.
The judge didn't buy it and good for him.
Great argument by the Democrats, though: Minorities are too stupid to go to the right polling place.

 

[Cheeseburger80]

How will Green Party candidate Jill Stein benefit? There is no chance a recount will make any impact on her candidacy.
She has zero Electoral College votes.
If there are recounts in three states she has targeted, she will still have zero Electoral College votes.
What's the point?

I'm not a political expert, but I see this exhausting attempt as just another way of Hillary (not sure what Stein's beef is) refusing to accept that she lost. Fair and square. If there were any "Russian hacking/voter fraud", that would have been found out right after the election - but it's probably impossible anyway.

The people wanted change. She should just suck it up and accept that. Her political life is practically done with anyway.

 

[about_average]

I have to say more than once that I completely agree that an audit trail is a good idea??

Yes, you have to rant about it constantly if you want anyone to think you care as much about it as you do your theoretical massive voter fraud and ballot box stuffing.
We know for a fact that 14 states have no audit trail.
We have a theory that voter fraud happens on a significant scale.

An audit trail is meaningless if you don't know if the people that voted should have had purple fingers or not or if you're going to allow people to dip their thumb in the purple ink a second time.

Yeah, it's meaningless to feel confident that votes cast went to the intended candidate.

And you don't get to scream no evidence about something that you do not want evidence to be possible for. You want an audit of your individual vote but you don't want an audit of the entire vote.

Nice ascription.
Quote where I said I'm opposed to voter ID laws.

Incredible that we have a situation where the very same people who scream there's no way anyone's ever stuffed The Ballot Box in the back room of a democratic only stronghold precinct thinks that the Russians snuck into the back room of Republican precincts and did the same thing.

The only "ballot box stuffing" I've seen evidence of is all the gerrymandering that goes on.

 

[about_average]

I'm not a political expert, but I see this exhausting attempt as just another way of Hillary (not sure what Stein's beef is) refusing to accept that she lost. Fair and square. If there were any "Russian hacking/voter fraud", that would have been found out right after the election - but it's probably impossible anyway.

The people wanted change. She should just suck it up and accept that. Her political life is practically done with anyway.

Most people, I can't understand why, didn't want change.

 

[about_average]

If you think the recounts are ridiculous ...
Before the election, lawyers for Democrats in Phoenix went to court to ask that votes be counted when cast by voters who showed up at the wrong polling place.
This may not seem like a big deal, but the Phoenix metro area includes dozens of political subdivisions. A polling place two miles from another polling place may be in a different school district, fire district, city or water district with separate boards.
OK, so why would Democrats go to court to allow voting in the wrong precinct? The lawyers argued that requiring people to vote in the proper precinct was discriminatory to minorities.
The judge didn't buy it and good for him.
Great argument by the Democrats, though: Minorities are too stupid to go to the right polling place.

You have a link?
All I can find is the lawsuit to allow people to vote in different precincts because the number of polling places was reduced by 85%

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...07c79ce3504_story.html?utm_term=.510c67d5cb52

The lack of voting places was “particularly burdensome” on Maricopa County’s black, Hispanic and Native American communities, which had fewer polling locations than white communities and in some cases no places to vote at all, the lawsuit alleges.

 

[RobDownSouth]

You have a link?
All I can find is the lawsuit to allow people to vote in different precincts because the number of polling places was reduced by 85%

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...07c79ce3504_story.html?utm_term=.510c67d5cb52

I found out something very interesting about early voting in Texas this year.

There were two places nearby-ish to go early vote: a majority-Hispanic community 3 miles south or a lilly-white community 5 miles north.

Both served an equal number of voters.

The Hispanic center had SIX voting machines onsite.
The White center had THIRTY voting machines onsite.

Average wait time was over an hour at the Hispanic center.
Average wait time was less than ten minutes at the White center.