Religion? Ask an atheist!

[Etoile]

I scored 15 out of 15.
But being an agnostic, recovering mormon, odds were good I would score high.

Soumis: sorry you were put in that position. I say give it back and tell them no thanks and you abolve them of any responsibility for your salvation.
great name, btw. toi aussi, etoile.

I didn't know we had an exmo around here! Congratulations on making it out! After meeting some missionaries during my summer in Japan, I did a lot of reading, and WHOA it is a scary place to be.

et merci.

 

[rekane]

At first it was difficult to extract myself from the "morg" (mormon borg), but it was such a relief. I grew up in that religion and was totally devout - I even served a mission (french speaking, bien sur). Leaving it behind, though, was the best thing for me. I won't bash it - it just doesn't serve my needs any more.

Now that I am able to look at that religion more objectively, it becomes more bizarre.

And clearly I have taken my life in another direction....happy to be here!

 

[sb2009]

I would be interested to know how many of us there are who belonged to extreme-ish type relgions?

I extremem the right word? I dunno. I was raised in an ultra right wing fundy church and was fairly isolated from the "world" with the exception proselytizing. Looking back, I always thing wtf were our parents thinking?

 

[Soumis]

Heh, I would be genuinely offended if someone did that to me...and I'd probably report it.

I scored 15 out of 15.
But being an agnostic, recovering mormon, odds were good I would score high.

Soumis: sorry you were put in that position. I say give it back and tell them no thanks and you absolve them of any responsibility for your salvation.
great name, btw. toi aussi, etoile.

I wasn't particularly offended or bothered. I figured it would happen sooner or later in our friendship seeing how she thinks I'm a heathen, without knowing about the bdsm. I view it as more of a cultural lesson where I can learn hopefully a little better about what is important to her. Provided she doesn't get pushy about it I don't mind. Besides, I'm pretty sure this was prompted by the General Conference and it's only once a year (correct me if I'm wrong).

I like religious debate provided everyone can be civil about it.

And thanks on the name note. Mon français est très peu maintenant. "Soumis" n'est pas différent de mon vrai nom et je vais aller à France en Novembre.

I mostly use Spanish at work these days. Somedays I'm pretty sure I'm speaking in Spanglench.

 

[VelvetSin]

I would be interested to know how many of us there are who belonged to extreme-ish type relgions?

I was raised in a very pious Wesleyan household. (Few people I've run into know what that means, so I'll throw it in here that it's denomination branched from the Methodist church.) I don't know if you'd consider the denomination extreme-ish, but my family certainly took it to a heightened level of zealous. To this day, my dad and I have to end phone calls when he starts down that road. He just won't let it go. B, on the other hand, loves to chat it up with him. He gets a sick kick out of listening to the old guy ramble about our everlasting salvation being doomed if we don't mend our ways and return to the bleating flock.

 

[BiBunny]

I would be interested to know how many of us there are who belonged to extreme-ish type relgions?

I extremem the right word? I dunno. I was raised in an ultra right wing fundy church and was fairly isolated from the "world" with the exception proselytizing. Looking back, I always thing wtf were our parents thinking?

Do the Southern Baptists count? They're not the Pentacostals or the Holiness Church, but they ain't mainline, either.

 

[rekane]

I was definitely raised in an extreme religion.
I have recently discovered that I have a strong compulsion to be a sub. Luckily I feel I have landed in good hands - my Dom is firm and patient and I am so happy to be His.
Somehow this D/s world feels similar to a religious experience. I am sure someone has written a post about that somewhere, but I am still very new and haven't yet seen any.
I am so happy to submit, to give over. Now it feels like I have an actual choice, not fear based or that my "salvation" hangs in the balance.
I am really happy.

 

[chy_girl]

I would be interested to know how many of us there are who belonged to extreme-ish type relgions?

I extremem the right word? I dunno. I was raised in an ultra right wing fundy church and was fairly isolated from the "world" with the exception proselytizing. Looking back, I always thing wtf were our parents thinking?

My paternal grandparents were Baptist and Church of the Nazarene and raised my dad Nazarene. My maternal grandparents were Methodist and Mennonite and raised my mom Methodist. I went from non-denominational Christian to Baptist to Nazarene to non-denominational extreme Christian to agnostic pagan-ish something with a fondness for Buddha. Although, there for awhile I was seriously considering Catholicism. If I had to go back to a church, I'd probably go Catholic because of the orderliness and having lots of Bossy Ones about that take confession and such. There's something in it that definitely speaks to my service-sub part... And my religious fetish.

Does that count?

I wasn't particularly offended or bothered. I figured it would happen sooner or later in our friendship seeing how she thinks I'm a heathen, without knowing about the bdsm.
*snip*

Whenever someone says I'm a heathen I inform them in a very innocent, yet matter of fact way that there is absolutely no genealogical evidence that any of my ancestors came from the Heaths... They came from a parish in Cornwall and I know this because I checked!

Then I use my inside voice to laugh hysterically while I watch as the person tries to suss out what the fuck I'm talking about.

 

[ImOnIt]

I met a bloke at a game store today, sold him some of my toys. He told me he was a minister, and had a bit of a pray for me.

Whatof the matter that we are ask for healing from the same power that supposedly caused the damage? I love a kind welcome as much as anyone, but it feels like bait around a hook.

 

[graceanne]

I met a bloke at a game store today, sold him some of my toys. He told me he was a minister, and had a bit of a pray for me.

Whatof the matter that we are ask for healing from the same power that supposedly caused the damage? I love a kind welcome as much as anyone, but it feels like bait around a hook.

I hear you. I've had some SERIOUS anger issue with Him for letting me be sick. Honestly, I'd tell Him. He's big enough to take it, and it's okay to be angry with God.

 

[chy_girl]

I hear you. I've had some SERIOUS anger issue with Him for letting me be sick. Honestly, I'd tell Him. He's big enough to take it, and it's okay to be angry with God.

You know, I never understood that aspect of the more hardcore churches I attended. They all preached that if it was "god's way" that we had to bow down and be happy about it - that it was a sin to be angry with god. It wasn't till recently that I realized that anger is a human emotion and god is fully aware of the fact that we're all human, so how can he get pissy for people being people because he knows damned well none of us are perfect.

 

[graceanne]

You know, I never understood that aspect of the more hardcore churches I attended. They all preached that if it was "god's way" that we had to bow down and be happy about it - that it was a sin to be angry with god. It wasn't till recently that I realized that anger is a human emotion and god is fully aware of the fact that we're all human, so how can he get pissy for people being people because he knows damned well none of us are perfect.

Yep, and beyond that he understands our hurts and angers. Not only was his son sacrificed for the worlds sin, but people cheered when Pilate agreed to do it. You can't say he wasn't ticked - there was a solar eclipse and an earthquake on the moment of Jesus' death and the curtain that separated the general public from the inner sanctum in Solomon s temple was ripped down the center.

If we got screwed we're allowed to ask him why and we're allowed to let him know we're ticked about getting the rough side of the whole 'sin entering the world' thing. I have, quite literally, told god that this fucking sucks and it's not fair, and I DID NOT do anything to deserve it. Only then was I able to begin forgiving him.

 

[graceanne]

double post

 

[Etoile]

Anybody catch this week's Glee? Very interesting approach by Kurt to atheism.

 

[FurryFury]

Anybody catch this week's Glee? Very interesting approach by Kurt to atheism.

I did. I found Mercedes idea that everyone "must believe in something greater than themselves" just to get by to be very arrogant. Not to mention Glee club members singing religious over Kurt's father after Kurt had said how he felt about religion.

Ugh.

 

[Homburg]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the "You gotta believe in something" speeches either.

No, I do not have to believe in something to get by. I get by fine, but thanks for your concern. Much of what I saw in the episode made me kind of eh. I was happy that the token atheist was portrayed in a non-negative light.

That said, the young man that plays Kurt did a great job of portraying emotion in that episode. I didn't catch the whole thing, but he struck me as very believable.

 

[FurryFury]

I agree with you Homburg, however, having Kurt always on the verge of tears is really getting old. Let the gay guy be happy sometimes, why don't they? I want to see him with a love interest that is actually interested in him too.

FF

 

[FurryFury]

Brining this over from the "movie" thread.

Big Love season three is way too religious and spends way too much time at the compound for my comfort level. Also, once more, I'll say Nicki is an evil bitch who should be cast out. Ugh.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Anybody catch this week's Glee? Very interesting approach by Kurt to atheism.

Wah.

It's on hold here for 2 weeks while the Comm Games are on.

I'll have to aquire it over the weekend.

 

[Homburg]

I agree with you Homburg, however, having Kurt always on the verge of tears is really getting old. Let the gay guy be happy sometimes, why don't they? I want to see him with a love interest that is actually interested in him too.

FF

Yeah, I've thought the same thing about many of the characters. It's almost as bad as "Buffy". Let em win once in a damned while.

 

[cathrynb]

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[rekane]

Big love for Big Love

Brining this over from the "movie" thread.

Big Love season three is way too religious and spends way too much time at the compound for my comfort level. Also, once more, I'll say Nicki is an evil bitch who should be cast out. Ugh.

I love Big Love! Finally I could see how polygamy could make sense or work - not that I want to sign up as a sister wife. The show is pretty much spot on regarding details and vernacular. As an ex-mo, it makes me laugh.
I never understood how Nicki came to be a sister wife. Is it just because of her family?

 

[FurryFury]

Have you seen season three?



And speaking of Sister Wives have you seen the new "reality show"?

I love Big Love! Finally I could see how polygamy could make sense or work - not that I want to sign up as a sister wife. The show is pretty much spot on regarding details and vernacular. As an ex-mo, it makes me laugh.
I never understood how Nicki came to be a sister wife. Is it just because of her family?

 

[rekane]

I saw that reality show on TLC. I saw the first episode and fell asleep before it finished. So, Big Love it isn't.
I haven't seen most of Big Love - saw the first couple of episodes then just started watching again in the last couple of months. (It was a happy day when I got HBO back.) I am not sure what season it is, but I agree that Nicki is a trifling bitch.
I lived in SLC for a while and never saw a polygamist family. Or, probably, I just never noticed. But there were larger polygamist communities in smaller cities. Very bizarre in an already bizarre bubble world.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I heard a rumor that Kurt dates the new quarterback this season. I hope it's true.

Also, I don't think they gave the atheists a fair portrayal. It seemed like the only reason people on the show were atheist was because God had been mean to them. Can't a person just be atheist because it makes more sense than believing in God?

Nope. And a lesbian is ALWAYS a lesbian because of some horrific experience in her past so she doesn't trust men. God forbid she simply prefer women!

And the gay kid is always emo. Personally, I have money on when Kurt dies, or moves away, or loses a leg or his memory.