Roy Moore

If the Democrats were really serious that this is about respecting women they would cut a deal something along these lines.

Franken will resign and Minnesota's governor will appoint a republican to serve the remainder of his term, maybe Norm ( Norm was cheated out of the seat TBH)?

In exchange Moore drops out of the race and Jones gets sessions old seat. No change in the balance of power. Women will come out the winners as a result. You wont see that happen because the Dems are hell bent on trying to impeach Trump. Nothing will happen to Franken.
 
If the Democrats were really serious that this is about respecting women they would cut a deal something along these lines.

Franken will resign and Minnesota's governor will appoint a republican to serve the remainder of his term, maybe Norm ( Norm was cheated out of the seat TBH)?

In exchange Moore drops out of the race and Jones gets sessions old seat. No change in the balance of power. Women will come out the winners as a result. You wont see that happen because the Dems are hell bent on trying to impeach Trump. Nothing will happen to Franken.

Um except for the reality that Moore's and Franken's situations are very different. Franken isn't a chester the molester. Moore is. While the situation with Franken is not ideal, it does not include underage girls by the score whom he calls liars.

There is a reason that we don't sentence petty theft the same as we do grand theft auto. They are similar but not anywhere near on the same level. At this point, the conservatives - see Trump especially - are using it as a power play to advance the "party over country" philosophy. Moore is a complete piece of shit as a human being and government official. Franken isn't.

To conflate the two is mind boggling.

Additionally there is no reason a democratic governor would appoint a republican replacement. That's not only wishful thinking but most likely would go against the will of the electorate.
 
Franken will resign and Minnesota's governor will appoint a republican to serve the remainder of his term,
The best the governor could offer is about a year long appointment. In Minnesota appointments don't serve out the remainder of the term. The appointment lasts until the next special election. From now till June 29th next year a resignation would produce a special election in November 2018. Franken's current term ends Jan 2021.

https://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2017/11/what-if-franken-resigns/
 
Um except for the reality that Moore's and Franken's situations are very different. Franken isn't a chester the molester. Moore is. While the situation with Franken is not ideal, it does not include underage girls by the score whom he calls liars.

There is a reason that we don't sentence petty theft the same as we do grand theft auto. They are similar but not anywhere near on the same level. At this point, the conservatives - see Trump especially - are using it as a power play to advance the "party over country" philosophy. Moore is a complete piece of shit as a human being and government official. Franken isn't.

To conflate the two is mind boggling.

Additionally there is no reason a democratic governor would appoint a republican replacement. That's not only wishful thinking but most likely would go against the will of the electorate.

Republicans are scum who stand by each other no matter how heinous and perverted their actions are.
Deplorables was spot on.
 
If the Democrats were really serious that this is about respecting women they would cut a deal something along these lines.

Franken will resign and Minnesota's governor will appoint a republican to serve the remainder of his term, maybe Norm ( Norm was cheated out of the seat TBH)?

In exchange Moore drops out of the race and Jones gets sessions old seat. No change in the balance of power. Women will come out the winners as a result. You wont see that happen because the Dems are hell bent on trying to impeach Trump. Nothing will happen to Franken.

The Democrats want a president who isn't a terrible human being and doesn't tweet about rookie basketball player's dad's.
 
If the Democrats were really serious that this is about respecting women they would cut a deal something along these lines.

Franken will resign and Minnesota's governor will appoint a republican to serve the remainder of his term, maybe Norm ( Norm was cheated out of the seat TBH)?

In exchange Moore drops out of the race and Jones gets sessions old seat. No change in the balance of power. Women will come out the winners as a result. You wont see that happen because the Dems are hell bent on trying to impeach Trump. Nothing will happen to Franken.



Do we want to extend the principle "Once accused of sexual harassment, the person being accused must resign" to all politicians?

Because someone comes to mind.
 
Um except for the reality that Moore's and Franken's situations are very different. Franken isn't a chester the molester even though there is a picture proving it. Moore is guilty even though there is no proof. While the situation with Franken is not ideal, it does not include underage girls by the score whom he calls liars.

There is a reason that we don't sentence petty theft the same as we do grand theft auto. They are similar but not anywhere near on the same level. At this point, the conservatives - see Trump especially - are using it as a power play to advance the "party over country" philosophy. Moore is a complete piece of shit as a human being and government official. Franken isn't.

To conflate the two is mind boggling.

Additionally there is no reason a democratic governor would appoint a republican replacement. Why would we quit now when the allegation might actually work? That's not only wishful thinking but most likely would go against the will of the electorate.
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Fixed your post for you :D Maybe Colonel Hogan can school you on the law? An allegation of something that might have happened 40 years ago does not equal guilt. In your opinion its party over country but maybe Trump is thinking having that vote will put the country's interest ahead of Democratic parties? Moore winning wont benefit the RNC, they don't want him. See anybody can play that game.

I am skeptical of the accusations against Moore because of the timing of it and it's alleged to have taken place 40 years ago. Moore has been in public life all this time and only now when a senate seat is up for grabs in a special election this comes out? Smells like politics to me.

Since you already convicted Moore, let's look at your pal AL. He copped a feel on a woman sleeping in a military aircraft durring a USO tour. He Slipped his tongue uninvited into another woman's mouth without her consent. He sampled the same woman's bodily fluids without her permission is that sexual assault? Since she was denied the choice of consenting to his tongue and saliva is that rape?

You want a the sliding scale of what constitutes guilt, there you go. Oh and he admitted to doing it, in Team D land he gets respect for admitting to being a predator. Way to stick up for women.



The best the governor could offer is about a year long appointment. In Minnesota appointments don't serve out the remainder of the term. The appointment lasts until the next special election. From now till June 29th next year a resignation would produce a special election in November 2018. Franken's current term ends Jan 2021.

https://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/2017/11/what-if-franken-resigns/

Get them both off the stage , take the politics out of it by preserving the political status quo until the voters can choose in the next election.


The Democrats want a president who isn't a terrible human being and doesn't tweet about rookie basketball player's dad's.

Too bad the DNC rigged the primaries ,they might have got one . Instead the DNC ran a sick , corrupt, worn out loser, that felt entitled to be president. The worst thing about it, you all (Hillary supporters) agreed with that. At least registered republicans gave the finger to the RNC and chose Trump.

The dad should have STFU and just say thanks for not letting my kid rot in a Chinese jail for 10years. Fuck him, his kid shop lifted, China is not the USA, different rules.


Do we want to extend the principle "Once accused of sexual harassment, the person being accused must resign" to all politicians?

Because someone comes to mind.

It seems a majority of Team D supporters are in favor of that because they think it will help them impeach Trump. The Law is inconvenient at times yes? People forget what goes around comes around, then scream no fair!
 
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Fixed your post for you :D Maybe Colonel Hogan can school you on the law? An allegation of something that might have happened 40 years ago does not equal guilt. In your opinion its party over country but maybe Trump is thinking having that vote will put the country's interest ahead of Democratic parties? Moore winning wont benefit the RNC, they don't want him. See anybody can play that game.

Adrina overlooks Franken's jokes about raping babies and Leslie Stahl. He proposed drugging and raping Stahl, then posing her in various positions for some fun time photography. His wannabe serial rapist coming out, but no big deal right?
 
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Fixed your post for you :D Maybe Colonel Hogan can school you on the law? An allegation of something that might have happened 40 years ago does not equal guilt. In your opinion its party over country but maybe Trump is thinking having that vote will put the country's interest ahead of Democratic parties? Moore winning wont benefit the RNC, they don't want him. See anybody can play that game.

I am skeptical of the accusations against Moore because of the timing of it and it's alleged to have taken place 40 years ago. Moore has been in public life all this time and only now when a senate seat is up for grabs in a special election this comes out? Smells like politics to me.

Since you already convicted Moore, let's look at your pal AL. He copped a feel on a woman sleeping in a military aircraft durring a USO tour. He Slipped his tongue uninvited into another woman's mouth without her consent. He sampled the same woman's bodily fluids without her permission is that sexual assault? Since she was denied the choice of consenting to his tongue and saliva is that rape?

You want a the sliding scale of what constitutes guilt, there you go. Oh and he admitted to doing it, in Team D land he gets respect for admitting to being a predator. Way to stick up for women.

Actually no you didn't. You just proved more party over country bullshit. You proved where your interest lays. You don't care about the country. It's all about party power.

Moore is known for being this way. Franken was a comedian making a cheap and bad joke. When the time comes that Franken calls up a high school to hit on a teenage girl then you may have some validity.

And yes, let's look at that pic - are his hands on her? No. It's a sight gag. Inappropriate and offensive, but not even in the same ballpark of parents having to watch out for him in regards to their teenage daughters.

That you can't tell the difference just demonstrates that you are a partisan hack - like you said, keep at it if it's working right? :rolleyes:

Adrina overlooks Franken's jokes about raping babies and Leslie Stahl. He proposed drugging and raping Stahl, then posing her in various positions for some fun time photography. His wannabe serial rapist coming out, but no big deal right?

So how many parents had to keep Franken away from their teenage daughters? How many malls was he banned from?
 
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Actually no you didn't. You just proved more party over country bullshit. You proved where your interest lays. You don't care about the country. It's all about party power.

Moore is known for being this way. Franken was a comedian making a cheap and bad joke. When the time comes that Franken calls up a high school to hit on a teenage girl then you may have some validity.

And yes, let's look at that pic - are his hands on her? No. It's a sight gag. Inappropriate and offensive, but not even in the same ballpark of parents having to watch out for him in regards to their teenage daughters.

That you can't tell the difference just demonstrates that you are a partisan hack - like you said, keep at it if it's working right? :rolleyes:



So how many parents had to keep Franken away from their teenage daughters? How many malls was he banned from?

Party over country says you, what makes your PPOV the right one? Oh I forgot Your Team D and Team D is always right, everybody else bad. Is Moore related by blood to Harvey Weinstein because your making him out to be this super predator that operated for 40 years in Bama and is untouchable.

Al Franken is a victim of circumstances! He didn't really do all that stuff, it's all a gag. Got it ;)

You don't know jack about my politics but thanks for the compliment. :) I do like how you hurl yourself into these political discussions even when you're wrong :D You're almost as much fun as watching Eyer or BB stir the pot.
 
Actually no you didn't. You just proved more party over country bullshit. You proved where your interest lays. You don't care about the country. It's all about party power.

Moore is known for being this way. Franken was a comedian making a cheap and bad joke. When the time comes that Franken calls up a high school to hit on a teenage girl then you may have some validity.

And yes, let's look at that pic - are his hands on her? No. It's a sight gag. Inappropriate and offensive, but not even in the same ballpark of parents having to watch out for him in regards to their teenage daughters.

That you can't tell the difference just demonstrates that you are a partisan hack - like you said, keep at it if it's working right? :rolleyes:



So how many parents had to keep Franken away from their teenage daughters? How many malls was he banned from?

The report he was banned has been debunked by the manager of that mall.:rolleyes:
 
Party over country says you, what makes your PPOV the right one? Oh I forgot Your Team D and Team D is always right, everybody else bad. Is Moore related by blood to Harvey Weinstein because your making him out to be this super predator that operated for 40 years in Bama and is untouchable.

Al Franken is a victim of circumstances! He didn't really do all that stuff, it's all a gag. Got it ;)

You don't know jack about my politics but thanks for the compliment. :) I do like how you hurl yourself into these political discussions even when you're wrong :D You're almost as much fun as watching Eyer or BB stir the pot.

:rolleyes:

Seriously? Keep it up and you're just going to be put in the too stupid to be real pile.

It's not like you don't have a post history or anything. Do you think your words disappear into the ether?

Moore is a molester.

Franken was a bad comedian.

Apples and oranges. But again, keep trying to equate someone who tells a distasteful joke to someone who parents had to protect their daughters from. Wow.
 
:rolleyes:

Seriously? Keep it up and you're just going to be put in the too stupid to be real pile.

It's not like you don't have a post history or anything. Do you think your words disappear into the ether?

Moore is a molester.

Franken was a bad comedian.

Apples and oranges. But again, keep trying to equate someone who tells a distasteful joke to someone who parents had to protect their daughters from. Wow.

I am not entertained yet. Don't stop now, you're approaching Eyer's level of Righteous indignation. Just a little Moore.... :D
 
:rolleyes:

It's not like you don't have a post history or anything. Do you think your words disappear into the ether?

I was so focused on you approaching Eyer like status I missed this little Gem. Yes by all means go all the way back and check my post history. Make sure you don't miss a thing. I think its an excellent idea! Better yet make a thread and ask the GB to sound off. Don't forget the Poll. I insist on the obligatory Dolf option! :kiss:
 
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