Roy Moore

[adrina]

I was so focused on you approaching Eyer like status I missed this little Gem. Yes by all means go all the way back and check my post history. Make sure you don't miss a thing. I think its an excellent idea! Better yet make a thread and ask the GB to sound off. Don't forget the Poll. I insist on the obligatory Dolf option!

The fact that you keep insisting that I am reaching Eyer (or BB) like status tells me all I need to know really. It's the insult slung around by conservatives when you want to shut someone down. I've seen your posts.

If you want to make a poll, please feel free.

You're a fool.

But do have a lovely evening.

 

[snugglestruggle]

The fact that you keep insisting that I am reaching Eyer (or BB) like status tells me all I need to know really. It's the insult slung around by conservatives when you want to shut someone down. I've seen your posts.

If you want to make a poll, please feel free.

You're a fool.

But do have a lovely evening.

Shut you down? Quite the contrary I enjoy reading your Don Quixote like battles with evil conservatives. Who are they again? You occasionally make a good point or two. What do you have against laughing?

It takes all kinds to make up a village, including Eyer and BB types. After all, somebody has to do the stirring.

You'll never reach Eyer status until you get banned. How far will you go for team D? Will you take one for Frankie?

The evening has been lovely , TY for the compliment

 

[renard_ruse]

The Judge is up by 6% in two recent polls.

However, sadly, and to the eternal shame of the people of Alabama, his support has been at least halved since Bezos and the duopoly-media machine started this reprehensible character assination dirty trick. Over two-thirds of Alabamaians (?) now have a negative opinion of the judge (though thankfully many of those will still vote for him). In fact, the poll shows him behind by 1 point among voters under age 65.

The fact that Bezos and the corrupt two party establishment, along with its MSM friends, and probably the CIA, have been able to convince a sizable number of people to hate this man over absolute non-sense that has no relevance to anything, shows just how lost and brainwashed the public still is by the media.

Americans have well and truly become stupid, brainwashed morons.

 

[Unabatable]

You'll never reach Eyer status until you get banned.

(A minimum of 28 times, at last count.)

 

[snugglestruggle]

(A minimum of 28 times, at last count.)

That is setting the bar too high. Once will suffice to prove the point.

 

[colddiesel]

Josef Stalin got a 13 year old girl pregnant when he was in his thirties. I reckon Roy Moore was trying to emulate him.

 

[BizzyBody]

The fact that you keep insisting that I am reaching Eyer (or BB) like status tells me all I need to know really. It's the insult slung around by conservatives when you want to shut someone down. I've seen your posts.

If you want to make a poll, please feel free.

You're a fool.

But do have a lovely evening.

STFU, Sanctimonious SHitHead

 

[MagnusRichard]

I was reading the Adrenal posts about this and i think she is ignoring something important.

Franken has confessed.
There is third party physical evidence of his doing wrong.

Moore has not confessed. He denies everything.
There is no third party physical evidence of doing wrong.

So today Franken is a confessed perv with proof.

Moore is not.

These are facts, not opinions.

Adrenal is wrong on the facts.

So my question is this. Is Adrenal stupid or just an unhappy angry old crazy internet woman?

Or did somebody break her heart?

 

[adrina]

Actually at this point there are two more women coming forward with Al.

I'm sick of this shit.

We are basically ready to throw women under the bus because of political power because men aren't capable of demonstrating the necessary self control.

There's one thing all these accusations have in common: they are against men.

I haven't heard one accusation against a single female politician.

Fuck 'em all. Elect women. We'll get shit done and no one has to worry about being groped on the job. As apparently most men in power don't have the discipline to not be corrupted.

If a man wants to run for office, he should have to prove himself above and beyond that he has the ability to control his hands, his mouth, his mind and his penis.

 

[Rightguide]

Actually at this point there are two more women coming forward with Al.

I'm sick of this shit.

We are basically ready to throw women under the bus because of political power because men aren't capable of demonstrating the necessary self control.

There's one thing all these accusations have in common: they are against men.

I haven't heard one accusation against a single female politician.

Fuck 'em all. Elect women. We'll get shit done and no one has to worry about being groped on the job. As apparently most men in power don't have the discipline to not be corrupted.

If a man wants to run for office, he should have to prove himself above and beyond that he has the ability to control his hands, his mouth, his mind and his penis.

Let's not forget Maxine Waters was named the most corrupt member of Congress in 2005, 2006, 2009, 2011, and now in 2017 by the group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

 

[adrina]

Let's not forget Maxine Waters was named the most corrupt member of Congress in 2005, 2006, 2009, 2011, and now in 2017 by the group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

Fine boot her out. (Granted if we go by Lance's logic, since she has denied everything then she must not be guilty right.) Along with all the others on the take. Including the current administration. Time to drain that swamp right?

Name ONE woman in power accused of sexual assault. Men have serious problems when it comes to their permissive attitudes in regards to sexuality and their lack of respect for women.

I'm tired of it.

 

[MagnusRichard]

Two sets of rules, one for women, one for men?

Is that "equality" ?

 

[adrina]

Two sets of rules, one for women, one for men?

Is that "equality" ?

Name ONE female politician accused of sexual harassment.

 

[MagnusRichard]

Name ONE female politician accused of sexual harassment.

Do you see that as a response or diversion?

 

[adrina]

Do you see that as a response or diversion?

I am saying the women are already following the rules and the men aren't. There aren't two sets of rules. Just one gender that isn't following the ones set in place.

Hint: it's not the women.

It's time to hold the men accountable.

 

[phrodeau]

Fine boot her out. (Granted if we go by Lance's logic, since she has denied everything then she must not be guilty right.) Along with all the others on the take. Including the current administration. Time to drain that swamp right?

Name ONE woman in power accused of sexual assault. Men have serious problems when it comes to their permissive attitudes in regards to sexuality and their lack of respect for women.

I'm tired of it.

I am saying the women are already following the rules and the men aren't. There aren't two sets of rules. Just one gender that isn't following the ones set in place.

Hint: it's not the women.

It's time to hold the men accountable.

You keep using the present tense, and the majority of these incidents happened in the distant past. The most recent incidents in recent news occurred in 2008, a year when sexual attitudes were very different from what they are now.

 

[MagnusRichard]

I am saying the women are already following the rules and the men aren't. There aren't two sets of rules. Just one gender that isn't following the ones set in place.

Hint: it's not the women.

It's time to hold the men accountable.

There are legal systems in place to bring the same justice to all people.

I think the system is tilted to favor women already, so this push for more exemptions from due process is amusing to me.

"Don't ever hit a girl" I think the flaw starts there in society.

We should be equal. We are not.

Innocent until proven guilty is the rule that should apply to all people.

 

[adrina]

You keep using the present tense, and the majority of these incidents happened in the distant past. The most recent incidents in recent news occurred in 2008, a year when sexual attitudes were very different from what they are now.

When we have people like Mike Pence that won't even be alone with women, how very different are they? Do you think the Roy Moore's of the world are suddenly different? Or the George W Bush's? Or, for heaven's sake, Trump himself? Or Hollywood's basic culture?

Or the experiences of everyday women everywhere?

It's still there.

Look to many of the men on this board. Especially many of the conservatives. You can't tell me they are replete with respect for women. See the poster above me for a grand example.

 

[snugglestruggle]

Actually at this point there are two more women coming forward with Al.

I'm sick of this shit.

We are basically ready to throw women under the bus because of political power because men aren't capable of demonstrating the necessary self control.

There's one thing all these accusations have in common: they are against men.

I haven't heard one accusation against a single female politician.

Fuck 'em all. Elect women. We'll get shit done and no one has to worry about being groped on the job. As apparently most men in power don't have the discipline to not be corrupted.

If a man wants to run for office, he should have to prove himself above and beyond that he has the ability to control his hands, his mouth, his mind and his penis.

Many men with and without power, with and without money objectify women, which is the root of the problem. It's a learned behavior to a degree which was always present in society but has been elevated, become mainstream in music and TV over the last few decades. Think about that.

The epidemic in Hollywood is not news, ever heard of the casting couch? That goes way back. The media has always known about this but they have been protecting the men, is it because they are bedfellows, big donors to Team D or swine themselves?

I don't think the shoe will be dropped on women abusing their power because

1) It's no doubt a small number .
2) This is the era of empowering women so that shit needs to be kept under wraps.
3) The men probably think its cool (as long as the boss is hot).

 

[MagnusRichard]

You can't tell me they are replete with respect for women. See the poster above me for a grand example.

So quick to condemn others without facts.

I am relieved that people like you rarely occupy seats of power.

 

[Rightguide]

Name ONE woman in power accused of sexual assault. Men have serious problems when it comes to their permissive attitudes in regards to sexuality and their lack of respect for women.

I'm tired of it.

Hey, men are guilty of sexual assault from positions of power. I don't remember their names but there have been a large number of women in "positions of power and domination" over adolescent males who've been convicted of sexual assault on a minor and sent to prison in the last decade.

 

[phrodeau]

So quick to condemn others without facts.

I am relieved that people like you rarely occupy seats of power.

Sure seem to end up in the Oval Office, though.

Bush: Saddam Hussein has WMD's.

Obama: Police in Cambridge acted stupidly.

Trump: Take your pick.

 

[adrina]

Many men with and without power, with and without money objectify women, which is the root of the problem. It's a learned behavior to a degree which was always present in society but has been elevated, become mainstream in music and TV over the last few decades. Think about that.

The epidemic in Hollywood is not news, ever heard of the casting couch? That goes way back. The media has always known about this but they have been protecting the men, is it because they are bedfellows, big donors to Team D or swine themselves?

I don't think the shoe will be dropped on women abusing their power because

1) It's no doubt a small number .
2) This is the era of empowering women so that shit needs to be kept under wraps.
3) The men probably think its cool (as long as the boss is hot).

I can't argue with any of that. It's all been "known" but tolerated. Look at the catholic church and the shenanigans they pulled - and continue to - because of power and money.

Weinstein, Moore, Spacey, Trump and the list goes on and on. It's not just powerful men either. It's too many men all over society at all levels. Bosses, reporters, fathers, brothers, co-workers... it is pervasive. And a reckoning is long overdue.

I will say that not all men are like this. Absolutely not. There are some very good men. And those very good men need to stand up with the women and say "enough!" to the Trumps, the Weinsteins and the rest giving men a bad name.

And yes there are some women that have engaged in this abusive activity. Women do commit sexual assault - even if no examples can be found in power currently. The sad reality is, however, that on an overwhelming basis on sheer numbers, men are the perpetrators and women are the victims.

It's time to make the laws actually mean something. Instead of giving them a wink wink nod nod type attitude of "boys will be boys".

 

[snugglestruggle]

When we have people like Mike Pence that won't even be alone with women, how very different are they? Do you think the Roy Moore's of the world are suddenly different? Or the George W Bush's? Or, for heaven's sake, Trump himself? Or Hollywood's basic culture?

Or the experiences of everyday women everywhere?

It's still there.

Look to many of the men on this board. Especially many of the conservatives. You can't tell me they are replete with respect for women. See the poster above me for a grand example.

No mention of Clinton, Team D gets a pass again. He made it cool to objectify women . after all his nic was "Slick willy".

Those with power share two things in common.

1) They will use it for their own ends , which is why they sought power to begin with.
2) They fear to lose it because the good times stop rolling unless they amassed great wealth, which is also power over others.

Personal conduct is the issue, which points to the lack of character.

 

[Rightguide]

I can't argue with any of that. It's all been "known" but tolerated. Look at the catholic church and the shenanigans they pulled - and continue to - because of power and money.

Weinstein, Moore, Spacey, Trump and the list goes on and on. It's not just powerful men either. It's too many men all over society at all levels. Bosses, reporters, fathers, brothers, co-workers... it is pervasive. And a reckoning is long overdue.

I will say that not all men are like this. Absolutely not. There are some very good men. And those very good men need to stand up with the women and say "enough!" to the Trumps, the Weinsteins and the rest giving men a bad name.

And yes there are some women that have engaged in this abusive activity. Women do commit sexual assault - even if no examples can be found in power currently. The sad reality is, however, that on an overwhelming basis on sheer numbers, men are the perpetrators and women are the victims.

It's time to make the laws actually mean something. Instead of giving them a wink wink nod nod type attitude of "boys will be boys".

As to positions of power for men there are these, all but one liberal Democrats:

Al Franken

Charlie Rose

Bill Clinton

Harvey Weinstein

Kevin Spacey

George Takei

George H.W. Bush

Glenn Thrush

Joe Biden

Anthony Weiner

Bob Menendez

John Conyers

Oliver Stone