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Yesterday whie I was visiting my parents my father showed me some pictures a friend had sent him. These pictures were verified as true. They were a series of three pictures. The first showed a young girl, (9 years old) snugged up behind a long rifle with a Kodiak Bear in the distance. The second showed the bear laying dead. The third showed her standing over the bear, holding her rifle and smiling at the camera.

The captions for the pictures stated that this was a record sized bear.

My question is why?

She certainly didn't shoot this bear to eat it. It was shot for the trophy alone. I feel strongly about this. I do not like it in the least.

I have hunted. I have killed animals, many animals. I killed them for one reason and one reason alone. They became food. (Well not all of them. I refuse to eat two legged tool using animals, but then again I hunted them for a different reason.) I have never hunted for trophies and can't understand the mindset behind doing so.

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
Yesterday whie I was visiting my parents my father showed me some pictures a friend had sent him. These pictures were verified as true. They were a series of three pictures. The first showed a young girl, (9 years old) snugged up behind a long rifle with a Kodiak Bear in the distance. The second showed the bear laying dead. The third showed her standing over the bear, holding her rifle and smiling at the camera.

The captions for the pictures stated that this was a record sized bear.

My question is why?

She certainly didn't shoot this bear to eat it. It was shot for the trophy alone. I feel strongly about this. I do not like it in the least.

I have hunted. I have killed animals, many animals. I killed them for one reason and one reason alone. They became food. (Well not all of them. I refuse to eat two legged tool using animals, but then again I hunted them for a different reason.) I have never hunted for trophies and can't understand the mindset behind doing so.

Cat


I know what you mean. I overheard two sixth grade boys (age 12ish) talking about hunting whitetail deer. "I got one, but I just left it there. I didn't go after it. I didn't want it." "Yeah, I didn't go after mine, either."
 
I think humans are the only creatures in the world who kill for the fun of it. I may be wrong about that. I have also heard that shrikes, also known as butcher birds, sometimes display their prey but don't eat it. There may be other creatures but they are rare, while humans actually brag about their prowess. (Such as the girl posing for the pictures)
 
Boxlicker101 said:
I think humans are the only creatures in the world who kill for the fun of it. I may be wrong about that. I have also heard that shrikes, also known as butcher birds, sometimes display their prey but don't eat it. There may be other creatures but they are rare, while humans actually brag about their prowess. (Such as the girl posing for the pictures)

Man, Weasels, Fishers and Wolverines are known to kill until there is nothing left to kill. These seem to be the only animals known to kill for the plain fun of it. Weasels, Fishers and Wolverines can be excused as they don't have the highly evolved brain that man does.

Then again I haven't heard of Weasels, Fishers or Wolverines making excuses.

So who is lower?

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
Man, Weasels, Fishers and Wolverines are known to kill until there is nothing left to kill. These seem to be the only animals known to kill for the plain fun of it. Weasels, Fishers and Wolverines can be excused as they don't have the highly evolved brain that man does.

Then again I haven't heard of Weasels, Fishers or Wolverines making excuses.

So who is lower?

Cat

Cats kill for fun. At least mine have over the years (and they didn't get it from us, none of us are hunters).

Not the same, but similar. Someone linked me to a video where a woman shoots a bear out of a tree, then a man fucks her over the corpse, and then their dogs rip the shit out of it as it fades to black. There are some truely disturbed people out there.
 
SeaCat said:
Man, Weasels, Fishers and Wolverines are known to kill until there is nothing left to kill. These seem to be the only animals known to kill for the plain fun of it. Weasels, Fishers and Wolverines can be excused as they don't have the highly evolved brain that man does.

Then again I haven't heard of Weasels, Fishers or Wolverines making excuses.

So who is lower?

Cat

That's interesting. The other three animals are all mustelids (as are skunks, minks and otters), predators with relatively advanced brains. Even so, I'm sure they don't kill something just to nail its head to the wall.
 
Domestic cats 'kill for fun.' They are genetically programmed to kill small animals and/or birds for food. However, a domestic cat is fed by its owner [generally.] Thus, it has no need to kill for food. However, the genetic programming is stll there.
 
I used to visit a friend's uncle who lives is central texas. Its a town so small the downtown area has one stoplight and maybe ten businesses. After visiting her uncle we would always go around to visit other peoples.

At one house, about 9 oclock at night, the father and son is not home. They went out hunting with thier cousin. It is late, dark, and we asked her if she was worried, she just said "no, something happened" and continued baking us some cookies.

The cousin drives up, races in to talk to her. She used up a whole loaf of bread making sandwiches while the cousin was grabbing sleepingbags and stuff. After he left we asked her what had happened. She explained that her son was going to get his first deer (yes, they eat venison) but that he only wounded it.

Her husband and son were tracking the deer, leaving a trail for the cousin to catch up to them with the supplies. I commented on the huge amount of sandwiches she had made, she said she hoped it was enough.

She saw my look and explained that the hunters may not be back for days, because if you wound a deer you track it until you find it and kill it. I asked her if they would really go for days before giving up, and how long she thought it might take.

She said "it might be longer than days, because they will never give up."

:heart:
 
Lisa Denton said:
I used to visit a friend's uncle who lives is central texas. Its a town so small the downtown area has one stoplight and maybe ten businesses. After visiting her uncle we would always go around to visit other peoples.

At one house, about 9 oclock at night, the father and son is not home. They went out hunting with thier cousin. It is late, dark, and we asked her if she was worried, she just said "no, something happened" and continued baking us some cookies.

The cousin drives up, races in to talk to her. She used up a whole loaf of bread making sandwiches while the cousin was grabbing sleepingbags and stuff. After he left we asked her what had happened. She explained that her son was going to get his first deer (yes, they eat venison) but that he only wounded it.

Her husband and son were tracking the deer, leaving a trail for the cousin to catch up to them with the supplies. I commented on the huge amount of sandwiches she had made, she said she hoped it was enough.

She saw my look and explained that the hunters may not be back for days, because if you wound a deer you track it until you find it and kill it. I asked her if they would really go for days before giving up, and how long she thought it might take.

She said "it might be longer than days, because they will never give up."

:heart:


Good for them. I have very little desire to go out and kill deer (okay, none), but I have absolutely NO desire to just wound them.
 
glynndah said:
Good for them. I have very little desire to go out and kill deer (okay, none), but I have absolutely NO desire to just wound them.

Yes, I know, but I also know there are some peoples who hunt for food, and I understand that.

What I thought was strange was that her son and husband might be gone for days, but she took it in stride. This is a woman who can tell you how to wring a chickens neck while serving milk and cookies. She spoke almost religiously, as if it were an honor-code or something, that they would never leave a wounded deer.

Hunters, those who hunt for food, have values. I thought when I heard it, and still do, that it is an honorable thing for this woman to just accept it as a part of life, that they would never give up.

:heart:
 
Lisa Denton said:
Yes, I know, but I also know there are some peoples who hunt for food, and I understand that.

What I thought was strange was that her son and husband might be gone for days, but she took it in stride. This is a woman who can tell you how to wring a chickens neck while serving milk and cookies. She spoke almost religiously, as if it were an honor-code or something, that they would never leave a wounded deer.

Hunters, those who hunt for food, have values. I thought when I heard it, and still do, that it is an honorable thing for this woman to just accept it as a part of life, that they would never give up.

:heart:

Oh, yes. I think they were all definitely doing the right thing. And what's really cool is that it was no big deal. That's just what is responsible people do attitude.
 
I don't understand trophy hunting.
I've shot rabbits. We don't eat them, we're removing them as vermin (which they undoubtedly are in this country).
Members of my family have also killed kangaroos, also not to eat, but to cull the numbers. And feral pigs, also vermin and dangerous.
 
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