Scientology

I want to watch her Scientology series, but haven't found the time. What I know of Scientology, which is not much, makes me curious to know more. It's interesting... and terrifying.
 
I watched a bit of it, and it did help with understanding how some cults and fundamental religions work. Lots of manipulation and head games.

It also had me scratching my head thinking, how could some people be so gullible and so easily drawn in. When the family members turn on each other, basically considering those that leave the church as dead to them, you think there are some troubled minds there.

Scientology is wacky, like that Heaven's Gate, only they have celebrities and a better health plan.


https://media.bizarrepedia.com/images/heavens-gate-suicide-bodies-Marshall-Applewhite.jpg
 
I watched a bit of it, and it did help with understanding how some cults and fundamental religions work. Lots of manipulation and head games.

It also had me scratching my head thinking, how could some people be so gullible and so easily drawn in. When the family members turn on each other, basically considering those that leave the church as dead to them, you think there are some troubled minds there.

Scientology is wacky, like that Heaven's Gate, only they have celebrities and a better health plan.


https://media.bizarrepedia.com/images/heavens-gate-suicide-bodies-Marshall-Applewhite.jpg

Gotta respect the coordinated sneakers, though. :cool:
 
There is a huge Scientology building here in downtown Chicago and I will cross the street to avoid having to walk past it up close because I'm afraid they'll try to snatch me when I walk by and then I'll disappear forever.
 
It is fascinating.
Its rare to find a Grifter thatll stick it out to such an epic level of commitment. But
Youve got to give Ol Hub his dues, for what must have surely started out as a
Mild embezelment type fraud with legitimate Tax exempt potential soon snowballed
Into an all consuming lifetime achievment award winning Grift.
Doesnt the 'Good book' actually say something about blind
Leading the blind?
My money was on 'Zumba' to be the next scientology, but lately it seems to be the yoga pant cult
Thats kicking goals.. And praise be to Yoga pants!....(there are some exceptions).

:D
 
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I watched a bit of it, and it did help with understanding how some cults and fundamental religions work. Lots of manipulation and head games.

It also had me scratching my head thinking, how could some people be so gullible and so easily drawn in. When the family members turn on each other, basically considering those that leave the church as dead to them, you think there are some troubled minds there.

Scientology is wacky, like that Heaven's Gate, only they have celebrities and a better health plan.


https://media.bizarrepedia.com/images/heavens-gate-suicide-bodies-Marshall-Applewhite.jpg

And the head guy now, David Mcsummat, totally wigs out and beats the shit outta folk!
 
I am always a little envious of people who can believe anything so completely, whatever the faith, philosophy or even that theory can go unchallenged or unimproved. It must feel so secure. So reassuring.

Iam reminded of a movie script dialogue(yeah i know..lame movie,blah blah..whatevs... Fuck off:) )
From the film 'Contact'.
A character that professes to be atheist is questioned as to whether she therefore
Believes that the 93%(paraphrasing) of the population that do believe in
A higher being or God are therefore all part of a collective delusional belief..
Its one of the only bits i remember when i ponder such things.

And yet at somepoint in humanity, 93%(approx) of the world population belied the world was flat..

I'm still awaiting my 'Sign from god'... Until then im sticking with Viking. Coz pillaging is always good.
 
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I will tell you a set of truths about Scientology.

Firstly, my 'external' opinions about it are exactly like most of the rest who commented here.

...But there is an 'underbelly,' let's say.

Back a long time ago when Hubbard had a big boat that cruised around South East Asia, he visited places in a post WWII, post-Colonial world in which some of the places he went to had very few 'elite' people at the tops of the various countries who basically had all the power there - he brought with him access to US publishing companies and also taped materials and equipment and he was effectively a kind of a salesman.

Later on still, during the Kennedy and Johnson 'Peace Corps' years, his organisation somehow managed to access funding and youth who traveled around the world, again, mainly in Asia, under Scientology's 'flag' or brand or banner, call it what you will, but in another respect, Scientology was like a very highly organised, systematic, and very centrally controlled 'drop in center' for ideologically-motivated American youth and young-ish adults.

At some point, there was a realization somewhere, that Scientology could do things that American official government agencies could not, and so to some extent, it was treated as a CIA 'asset' without ANY APPROVAL OR FORMAL COVER WHATSOEVER.

Because of the core 'business' being concerned with electronic recording technology, and propaganda and publishing, a very considerable skills base was built up with senior people who were Scientologists and it is unclear to me which bit leads which - are people Scientologists FIRST (at the top levels) or are they in the marketing and commercial audio-visual industry FIRST and foremost? I don't know.

For me this is a really sad thing to say because I don't subscribe to any kind of Scientology 'idea' or belief system other than that I find the concept of 'futurism' and the possibility of advanced intelligent peoples flying here (to our lonely planet) and fiddling around secretly in cool tight-fitting costumes and all of that, um, attractive to the things I consider important in life (IE tight fitting costumes and kinky women and ray guns and so on) - anyway, the really sad thing for me to say is that I have had a career pretty much at one point at the extreme high end of merchant banking in Australasia and there were only - AT BEST - maybe three or four people I can look back on with fond and positive memories; one was a psychopath that I am pretty sure was or was 'very close to' a particular serial killer and set of 'incidents,' and the other was a very senior executive of one of the world's leading Advertising Agencies AND WHO WAS A LEADING SCIENTOLOGIST.


The psychopath always treated me really well and was nothing but pleasant and cultivated, and the Scientologist was literally the person of the most unimpeachable integrity and human generosity and without any of the birth-donated chances or opportunities of any of the other decent people I knew. In fact, he was literally 'number 1' as far as I'm concerned across any 'test' I can think of from the personal character and personality point of view.

But what I will tell you without any hesitation and it is also pointless anyone here trying to gainsay what I will say next:

Political files on various people, AND official government files on their personal and private affairs and just about everything else, is often sourced from highly illegal and completely unauthorized sources produced by Scientology and Scientology sources and resources. In short, Scientology provides many of the actual personnel INSIDE the compounds where all of this NSA surveillance is conducted, and a lot also comes surreptitiously directly from Scientology TO the NSA without ANY FORMAL authorization at all.

'Scientology' is at minimum four or five different parallel networks and one over-arching supposed 'organisation.'

Scientology is an illegal government shadow 'asset' and an unauthorized Intelligence Establishment asset (but not 'Community' - it is not part of any such Community, and it is not acknowledge as such anywhere, although it IS nonetheless, partly because it operates outside of the law IN 'SOME' CASES although these 'charges' - that it operates outside the law - have always been subjected to court challenges, which means I don't want to be sued for saying this and I cannot warrant that it is true but it is 'what I believe' about the organisation; and I have very good reason to believe it).
 
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They're showing the Leah Remini docs here on the Crime Channel. Anyone watched them?

I knew fuck all about scientology apart from Tom Cruise loves it like I love cheese, but after watching this, Christ Almighty how do folk get pulled into this shit? To the extent they disassociate from thier families for "the church". Also, I never realised God didn't figure in it anywhere.

Madness.

Look at pyramid schemes, that one just adds um, ah, 're:li;g{io*n' I think.
 
It's like we were taking a walk there, then the mushrooms kicked in and the landscape and conversation got really weird and little paranoid.
 
They're showing the Leah Remini docs here on the Crime Channel. Anyone watched them?

I knew fuck all about scientology apart from Tom Cruise loves it like I love cheese, but after watching this, Christ Almighty how do folk get pulled into this shit? To the extent they disassociate from thier families for "the church". Also, I never realised God didn't figure in it anywhere.

Madness.

I watched most of it....two things, first, you have to, IMO, take what is said with a grain of salt and believe what you want to believe. Second, these kids are born into this, just like a kid is born into their parents religion, they have no choice and its al they know growing up....but third, i think all religion is ridiculous, so Scientology is as plausible as any of them....and forth, hey, if it works for you, go for it....certainly worked for her and tom, and Vinney Barbarino and countless others... also, fifth, I think Scientology chicks are hot!

You have to watch, Going Clear, if you really want to freak out....
 
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I watched most of it....two things, first, you have to, IMO, take what is said with a grain of salt and believe what you want to believe. Second, these kids are born into this, just like a kid is born into their parents religion, they have no choice and its al they know growing up....but third, i think all religion is ridiculous, so Scientology is as plausible as any of them....and forth, hey, if it works for you, go for it....certainly worked for her and tom, and Vinney Barbarino and countless others...

It's not religion though is it, it's nowt to do with God? It's a cult, pure 'n simple.
 
I watched most of it....two things, first, you have to, IMO, take what is said with a grain of salt and believe what you want to believe. Second, these kids are born into this, just like a kid is born into their parents religion, they have no choice and its al they know growing up....but third, i think all religion is ridiculous, so Scientology is as plausible as any of them....and forth, hey, if it works for you, go for it....certainly worked for her and tom, and Vinney Barbarino and countless others...

wow, you really suck at math.
 
they have a tax exemption because they sued a former head of the irs into submission.
 
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