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Fata Morgana said:
They're showing the Leah Remini docs here on the Crime Channel. Anyone watched them?

I knew fuck all about scientology apart from Tom Cruise loves it like I love cheese, but after watching this, Christ Almighty how do folk get pulled into this shit? To the extent they disassociate from thier families for "the church". Also, I never realised God didn't figure in it anywhere.

Madness.
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For Tom it all started when his mom told him not to jump on the couch.:D
 
Pretty riveting series, but Leah Remini's super sharp fingernails were kinda freaky and creepy.
 
they also finally put a nail in any remaining girl on girl fantasies involving her which is sad, really.
 
Emerson40 said:
I watched a bit of it, and it did help with understanding how some cults and fundamental religions work. Lots of manipulation and head games.

It also had me scratching my head thinking, how could some people be so gullible and so easily drawn in. When the family members turn on each other, basically considering those that leave the church as dead to them, you think there are some troubled minds there.
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Warning signs of a potentially destructive cult:

With that said, there are several warning signs that can be used to indicate when a religious group has gone from "harmless, quirky woo-meisters" to an active threat to its membership and even to others.[1]

Warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

1. Promises are made of a new life, a "spiritual resurrection," and a rejection of one's former life, which are simply irresistible to many desperate people. Therefore, it's easy to be pulled in.
2. There is no legitimate reason to leave. Former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative, or even evil. Therefore, it is extremely hard to leave.
3. The leader's authority is absolute, without meaningful accountability.
4. There is no tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
5. There is no meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget or expenses, such as an independently audited financial statement.
6. There exists an unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies, and persecutions.
7. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
8. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
9. Followers feel they can never be "good enough."
10. The group/leader is always right.
11. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation; no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.

Warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader

Rick Ross's Cult Education Institute lists the following warning signs for followers of a cult:[2]

1. They are extremely obsessive regarding the group/leader, resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
2. Individual identity, the group, the leader, and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused – as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.
3. Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned, it is characterized as "persecution".
4. They engage in uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, effectively cloning the group/leader in their personal behavior.
5. They are dependent upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
6. They have a hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supersede any personal goals or individual interests.
7. They lose their spontaneity and sense of humor in dramatic fashion.
8. They are increasing isolated from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.
9. They can justify anything the group/leader does no matter how harsh or harmful.
10. Former followers are at best considered negative, and at worst, they are considered evil and/or under bad influences. They can not be trusted, and personal contact is avoided.
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jomar said:
Pretty riveting series, but Leah Remini's super sharp fingernails were kinda freaky and creepy.
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Her voice, chest and her lips, were all I pay attention to....:D
 
Fata Morgana said:
It's not religion though is it, it's nowt to do with God? It's a cult, pure 'n simple.
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Well, it does have to do with matters that might be considered spiritual or supernatural.

Buddhism has no god (the Buddha never claimed to be a god or a god's prophet, just a guy who sat under a tree and worked some things out), but it is definitely a religion.
 
Scientology is for the crazies (ironic, huh?) I can't understand why anyone would want to be a part of it. And I am SO SICK of seeing Leah Remini in the news! These people are so far out of reality, it's disturbing.
 
I haven't a Clue ...

I was exposed to Catholicism early on as a child, and later on Mormonism. Upon return form Colorado these faiths became a challenge finding the Protestant faiths to be a moral dilemma, only to hear of the Church of Scientology, L Ron Hubbard, and Dianetics?
 
Liar said:
No weirder than most other religions. Different, but not really weirder.
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I don't know. The 50's era commercial jets from another planet and near phobia of any mental health professional is kind of weird.
 
This 'cult' got started or at least promoted by a science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.
 
rocket_surgery said:
I don't know. The 50's era commercial jets from another planet and near phobia of any mental health professional is kind of weird.
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Didn't say it isn't weird. It's weird as balls. But so are most religious narratives and quirks. Talking snakes, omnipotent magic entities and symbolic cannibalism. Myeah.
 
Liar said:
Didn't say it isn't weird. It's weird as balls. But so are most religious narratives and quirks. Talking snakes, omnipotent magic entities and symbolic cannibalism. Myeah.
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But most Biblical stories are seen as allegory. In Scientology it isn't. Xenu actually came here in old airliners from another planet to keep us safe from shrinks who want to...do something.
Not saying other religions aren't weird but Scientology is in a class by itself.
 
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