hashtag45
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Nice deflection, dumdum
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Hey - you are the one who said you're a fan. No need to do that, man. We know.
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Should you reproduce and should you have the power to design your own child are two different questions.
One of my neighbors has a long list of autoimmune diseases that run in her family and still decided to have biological kids. Her niece has already been diagnosed with RA. I understand people wanting to have kids, but not at this price.
As for the second question: no, but sadly it will happen. In some forms it already does.
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If the Dr said there would be a chance of Lou Gehrig disease, it'd be a tough call.
If he said there was a chance of Busybody disease or Hashdrag syndrome, there's no way I could risk it.
If he said there was a chance of Busybody disease or Hashdrag syndrome, there's no way I could risk it.
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Why is this a sad thing?
hashtag45
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Why's that?
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If you knew is the critical part. Most people didn't know. Modern genetics has changed what can be predicted.
Even if you know, what is the possibility? 1 in 100 chance there might be something wrong with a child? 1 in 10? 5 in 10? At what point do you say it is too great a risk?
Even then, how serious a condition might it be? There are some genetic defects that are not lifechanging, or that can be treated successfully. There are some that are serious risks to quality of life. There are some that MIGHT be transmitted skipping a generation.
If you know before pregnancy? Then you need advice before you make a decision.
If you know only after the pregnancy has begun? Is abortion a choice you could/would/might make?
If you don't know until late in pregnancy? You and your family will have to live with the child's condition.
Leaving it to chance? If you know the threat, you can make a balanced decision. If you don't know the scale of the threat, it would be better to find out more before a pregnancy starts.
Making these decisions is very hard and painful.
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1.This would be, in fact, quite a dilemma for our R-wingers who would oppose both abortion and genetic engineering :
- why condemn people who choose to have so-called designer babies?
Just an example : Isn't that a better alternative than having a woman go through the painful decision of aborting a wished-for pregnancy? After being told that the child has a genetic syndrome that will considerably impacts his/her quality of life, and reduces his/her lifespan?
2.And for our progressives:
And even if people would choose it for "non-medical" purposes, why not? That doesn't equate eugenics/Hitler style. No one is going to forcefully sterilise people who are ugly or dumb.
It's not fair, of course (why should some families be given a better chance in life than others). But is it entirely unethical? Not quite.
And it might in fact counter the effect described in the movie "Idiocracy".
- why condemn people who choose to have so-called designer babies?
Just an example : Isn't that a better alternative than having a woman go through the painful decision of aborting a wished-for pregnancy? After being told that the child has a genetic syndrome that will considerably impacts his/her quality of life, and reduces his/her lifespan?
2.And for our progressives:
And even if people would choose it for "non-medical" purposes, why not? That doesn't equate eugenics/Hitler style. No one is going to forcefully sterilise people who are ugly or dumb.
It's not fair, of course (why should some families be given a better chance in life than others). But is it entirely unethical? Not quite.
And it might in fact counter the effect described in the movie "Idiocracy".
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Why's that?
I think mental disorders are worse than physical disabilities.
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What mental disorders are you referring to?
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Poor dear
Never you mind, Hash. You're perfectly fine just the way you are no matter what everybody else says.
You should take a nap, now.
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Had I known that I would lose my 2nd daughter at only 8 days old because of a genetically passed-on heart defect, I might have thought twice about carrying to term.
Then again, my other children don't have it.
Life is a crapshoot.
Then again, my other children don't have it.
Life is a crapshoot.
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It's Eloi and they were the good looking ones.
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I didn't say they were the smart ones.
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And once you did know, did you have other children anyway?
( I'm not certain after reading your post.)
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In my family there is mental unwellness on my mums side. Depression. Alcoholism. Schizophrenia. Bipolar.
I had my sons knowing that it might be the genetic version of roulette. Thankfully so far they are doing ok and no signs of being mentally unwell.
I worried till I was in my late 20s that I might become unwell. I wasn't paranoid but I was concerned.
Growing up when I realized my mum was not a well person and was very erratic/bizarre in her behaviour I learnt to keep any weirdness well hidden in case people around me who knew my families history did not think I was unwell too.
Back on topic. I thought long and hard when I was pregnant (in the early stages) that if the baby did have something wrong with them what I would do. I made the decision if the sonogram showed that the baby had severe abnormalities and would be born in pain or suffering (because of the abnormalities) I would terminate.
I would not design my own child.
I had my sons knowing that it might be the genetic version of roulette. Thankfully so far they are doing ok and no signs of being mentally unwell.
I worried till I was in my late 20s that I might become unwell. I wasn't paranoid but I was concerned.
Growing up when I realized my mum was not a well person and was very erratic/bizarre in her behaviour I learnt to keep any weirdness well hidden in case people around me who knew my families history did not think I was unwell too.
Back on topic. I thought long and hard when I was pregnant (in the early stages) that if the baby did have something wrong with them what I would do. I made the decision if the sonogram showed that the baby had severe abnormalities and would be born in pain or suffering (because of the abnormalities) I would terminate.
I would not design my own child.
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Lots of people that aren't "normal" have changed the world. Not making an abortion argument at all and I do understand why people don't want to have children with major issues. Just saying, that's all.
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