Story rejected for AI?

[metropolinational]

Ok, so after 26 chapters of my Botched story, I think I just got a chapter rejected for AI. This is the message I got:

• Are you using Grammarly, ProWritingAid, Quillbot or similar software, or allowing Microsoft Word grammar check to change your words? Many modern writing packages incorporate AI. Literotica is a storytelling community centered on the sharing of human fantasies. While we do not have a policy against using tools to help with the writing process (i.e. sp, grammar check, etc.), we do ask that all work published on Literotica be created primarily by a human. If you are using a grammar check program to review your work so that you can make changes (as a spellcheck, to flag punctuation, review grammar, and/or occasionally as a thesaurus), that should be fine. If you are allowing a grammar check program to “rewrite” your words or rephrase your text, that may cross the line into AI generated text/stories (since substantial parts of the final draft may not be written by you). Please see this FAQ for more information: https://literotica.com/faq/publishing/publishing-ai NOTE: the sentence at the end of this response [[Please feel free to re-submit the story after a Volunteer Editor has examined it, or after you've made revisions.]] does not apply to stories rejected for content or AI issues. Volunteer Editors can help only with grammar, punctuation, and story mechanics issues and are not equipped to deal with AI issues. You may resubmit after you’ve made revisions.

I assume that is actually a rejection for AI rather than about Grammarly or Word?

Assuming this is due to AI, I have one simple question. I have a numbered list in my story. It was the narrators' to do list. After reviewing some of the AI rejection advice posts here, I've seen that idea pop up a couple of times: dont use bulleted lists.

Should I try to point the list out in the notes and resubmit? Or should I try to remove the list altogether and then resubmit (that would suck)? Or, is it unlikely to actually be the list that is causing this, and I should keep researching?

I dont want to waste time. My readers are hopping mad. Angry as hell. I don't want to try things that won't work and then wait two days for each new rejection.

Thanks for any help!

 

[EmilyMiller]

No one knows what triggers Lit’s AI detectors. Anyone who tells you that they do is dissembling. AI detectors are super flaky and spew out false positives and false negatives as a matter of course. There is no simple issue and no simple fix.

 

[metropolinational]

Thanks Emily. I am extremely disheartened. I just used AI to see which sections might be problematic. It told me that the whole story is problematic because of these issues:

1. Excellent punctuation
2. Flowing descriptive passages
3. Hypnotic tone
4. Use of transitional words
5. The rhythmic prayer scene at the end

Essentially, every aspect of the story that I was super proud of and that I worked obsessively to perfect is a problem. How would one ever fix that, and why would I want to?

 

[TheWritingGroup]

Do you have Rule of Three a lot? Proposition -- > example? Those structures are typical of AI.

And like Emily says, no one really knows what it's triggering on.

--Annie

 

[metropolinational]

I suspect I use the rule of three constantly—consciously, subconsciously, compulsively. Like Barack Obama, I’m an absolute sucker for threes: three beats, three clauses, three turns of the screw. This story, in particular, is built around an intentionally hypnotic rhythm—measured, repeated, inevitable. It had the rhythm at the beginning, it carried the rhythm through the middle, and it lands on the rhythm at the end.

I'm not even kidding here. I'm dead serious, stone sober, and it's a problem.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Thanks Emily. I am extremely disheartened. I just used AI to see which sections might be problematic. It told me that the whole story is problematic because of these issues:

1. Excellent punctuation
2. Flowing descriptive passages
3. Hypnotic tone
4. Use of transitional words
5. The rhythmic prayer scene at the end

Essentially, every aspect of the story that I was super proud of and that I worked obsessively to perfect is a problem. How would one ever fix that, and why would I want to?

Asking - say - ChatGPT why your story has been flagged is not a good idea. LLMs spew out a statistical approximation of answers associated with key words (or parts of words) in your question.

This works greater if you ask, “Does the Earth orbit the Sun or vice versa?” Lots of human-written text (which is all LLMs have) says the same thing.

When you ask about your story, it has no fuckikg clue what it is talking about and so it fakes an answer.

Good punctuation doesn’t get you pinged for AI. Laurel pings people for bad punctuation. If flowing descriptive passages got you pinged, I’d have half as many stories published here as now. I don’t know what hypnotic tone means, and neither does the LLM. WTF are transitional words? Conjunctions? Words that are morphing from one word to another? Gerundives?

Your best option is to PM whoever is reading Laurel’s emails saying you don’t use AI whatsoever.

 

[metropolinational]

Jokes aside, yeah, I use the rule of three a lot. What is this: Proposition -- > example?

 

[EmilyMiller]

I suspect I use the rule of three constantly—consciously, subconsciously, compulsively.

I do too. Never been pinged for AI.

 

[Maldonado]

AI detection tools are still inconsistent, and false positives and negatives make them unreliable

 

[metropolinational]

I do too. Never been pinged for AI.

I'm on chapter 26 of this story. All the chapters have had the same hypnotic tone. It's the narrators signature voice.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'm on chapter 26 of this story. All the chapters have had the same hypnotic tone. It's the narrators signature voice.

And I bet it’s irrelevant

 

[VerbalAbuse]

if your readers are the concern here, the solution is simple. post the story elsewhere -- there are many sites who will take your story no question asked.
then let your readers know.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

there's no "approval" on ao3. you put the story in -- it's online. that's it.

 

[Maldonado]

Maybe…but sometimes the details we think are irrelevant give the clearest picture

 

[ADirtyPerv]

if your readers are the concern here, the solution is simple. post the story elsewhere -- there are many sites who will take your story no question asked.
then let your readers know.

Exactly. And mention the ongoing problems in your bio. Not your fault you're having submission issues, if they're really "hopping mad" (are they really?) then you can just notify them through your bio.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

blogspot

 

[metropolinational]

if your readers are the concern here, the solution is simple. post the story elsewhere -- there are many sites who will take your story no question asked.
then let your readers know.

But I like it here? I love LW, I love the anons there. I love the bitter battles between the BTBs and the RAACs.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

-- there are literally dozens of alternatives to lit.

if fact, I recommend you use at least one as a secondary.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

But I like it here? I love LW, I love the anons there. I love the bitter battles between the BTBs and the RAACs.

it's you who complains about not liking here so much, eh?

 

[metropolinational]

Maybe…but sometimes the details we think are irrelevant give the clearest picture

I think maybe @EmilyMiller is saying that the tone is not relevant to why it got flagged. Not that the tone is irrelevant to the story? Of course, @EmilyMiller could just clarify for herself.

 

[metropolinational]

it's you who complains about not liking here so much, eh?

Have I? I love it here. I have said so repeatedly. As I have said many times, my only regret is that I did not start publishing here 10 years ago.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Of course, @EmilyMiller could just clarify for herself.

If the observation had been addressed to me, or easier to comprehend.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

Have I? I love it here. I have said so repeatedly. As I have said many times, my only regret is that I did not start publishing here 10 years ago.

I apologize. must have confused you with a guy who was bitching about rejection. couldn't have been you.

 

[EmilyMiller]

OK, I’m out. It’s not as much fun being stuck between two swinging dicks as I recall back in the day.

 

[metropolinational]

I apologize. must have confused you with a guy who was bitching about rejection. couldn't have been you.

is this sarcasm? I posted about rejection six months ago. It's been smooth sailing since until this.