Suicide

[ms_ann_thrope]

In California, you can prosecute for the attempt to commit a crime. I.E. attempted murder, attempted burglary, etc. Attempts carry the same penalty as the successful completion of the crime. So attempting to assist a suicide is still a felony.

You should stay alive to prosecute. 8)

Those are (m)an's laws. Wait 'till God gets ahold of him.

 

[Balladeer08]

Those are (m)an's laws. Wait 'till God gets ahold of him.

There is no God.

Which, by extension, means you are NOT God.

Certainly ego-centric and ill-behaved enough to be one of the old Greek Gods.

But there is nothing about you I could Deify.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

There is no God.

Which, by extension, means you are NOT God.

Certainly ego-centric and ill-behaved enough to be one of the old Greek Gods.

But there is nothing about you I could Deify.

I've got a job.

 

[pete]

I'm fighting to save my own life and you want people to come here and talk you out of taking your own. You've got a lot of fucking nerve.

... said the guy posing as a girl who created a 'i have cancer' thread.

i'd say "a lot of fucking nerve" could be described as pathetically trying to cultivate sympathy in the barren soil of your own doing.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

... said the guy posing as a girl who created a 'i have cancer' thread.

i'd say "a lot of fucking nerve" could be described as pathetically trying to cultivate sympathy in the barren soil of your own doing.

Says the biggest suck up on the board.

 

[pete]

Says the biggest suck up on the board.

if you're so strongly independent, why do you come here every day constantly begging for interaction with, and validation from, others?

 

[Muscadine_Eyes]

Also, consider getting on medication to help you with depression. Seasonal Affective Disorder can be to blame, or it has caused a spike in your depression. You probably feel this way a lot of the time. There is no need to live in pain. With the right therapist and treatment, you can see yourself through considerable growth.

Anosognosia is the state of not knowing that you are ill. It is stronger than denial. It is mostly seen in diseases like Schizophrenia, but people with depression can have a touch of it too, in my opinion. Please understand that it is okay and necessary to get help.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

if you're so strongly independent, why do you come here every day constantly begging for interaction with, and validation from, others?

I'm an enigma.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Of all the people I know who have killed themselves, not a single one of them ever said anything about it.

You would have NEVER guessed they were in that much pain, they all appeared happy and together, performing at their jobs etc. No one ever saw it coming.

Then one day just didn't show up only to find them later. 6 by self inflicted GSW, 2 hung by a rope, one in the shower by a guitar string and 2 bridge jumpers.

Suicide has got to be one of the most bizarre and saddest things....

I guess some folks just get tired and punch their own ticket. Me? I'm going to live 4 eva

 

[svalentine70]

Slightly shocked by some of the opinions stated here - suicide is not the act of the weak, or the immoral, or the godless, or the selfish - it's a harsh merciless world, full of sociopaths with no empathy or fellow feeling, and some people just cannot see a way through it.

The godless, selfish, immoral people are the ones who hold others to ransom financially, at the risk to all of humanity - and it's that sort of thing that drives so many to the brink.

Keep on keeping on, whoever you all are

 

[Que]

Of all the people I know who have killed themselves, not a single one of them ever said anything about it.

You would have NEVER guessed they were in that much pain, they all appeared happy and together, performing at their jobs etc. No one ever saw it coming.

Then one day just didn't show up only to find them later. 6 by self inflicted GSW, 2 hung by a rope, one in the shower by a guitar string and 2 bridge jumpers.

Suicide has got to be one of the most bizarre and saddest things....

I guess some folks just get tired and punch their own ticket. Me? I'm going to live 4 eva

Vets? That is a shocking number of acquaintances to have lost that way. I am glad you are not one of those statistics, it seems.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Slightly shocked by some of the opinions stated here - suicide is not the act of the weak, or the immoral, or the godless, or the selfish - it's a harsh merciless world, full of sociopaths with no empathy or fellow feeling, and some people just cannot see a way through it.

The godless, selfish, immoral people are the ones who hold others to ransom financially, at the risk to all of humanity - and it's that sort of thing that drives so many to the brink.

Keep on keeping on, whoever you all are

I'll agree with that sans the selfish part....if you have anyone at all who cares about you, loves you, depends on you, it's selfish. WE as humans are all in it together to the extent very very very few people truly have no one and it's usually by choice and to take yourself out of the game early fucks all kinds of shit up for the people around them.

Vets? That is a shocking number of acquaintances to have lost that way. I am glad you are not one of those statistics, it seems.

Most, 1 of the hangings was the neighbor a few years back...I caught a whiff and instantly knew that smell. Called the sheriffs department and sure as shit. His poor sister man....she flipped her shit. That's why it's selfish svalentine.

But like I said, guy made decent loot working HVAC, always had a smile, never seemed to have a prob with ladies and was generally liked at least on our block of the hood.

Seen a few attempted suicides...writing was on the wall and their OD attempts were total failures. I might be full of shit but it seems to me the folks who REALLY want to end it, don't talk about it. They just do...and everyone is left shocked going "WTF ??"

And the folks who let it out beforehand...not quite so hell bent on doing it usually come down off the ledge so to speak. Hmmm....what a quandary.

And thanks man, all politirage threads aside youz a good shit and I like having you around too.

 

[dolf]

people need to read the sticky.

ignore function. it is awesome.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

That solves everything.

 

[Kitty]

Whatever you're going through isn't bad enough to put your loved ones through suicide.

lol I feel several ways about this comment. Offended, amused, but slightly agreeing, then guilty about a chain of things.

 

[Debbie]

The people that post here don't believe in honesty. They believe in whatever they feel make them look good in front of the other cool kids. You want the truth, I'll give you the truth without all the bullshit. What you do with your life is your responsibility, not mine. Grow the fuck up.

I disagree with you. The general board is well and truly known to be a forum that has posters on it who are honest - sometimes brutally honest.

We do have kiss asses too.
And fucktards, dickwads, flirty, sexy, sexist, kind, obnoxious and the list goes on.

I also know when life gives some people a giant kick in the ass everyone
reacts differently. Some accept. Some are fucking angry. Denial. Sadness. Resilience. Once again the list goes on.

No one likes facing their possible death and not knowing what is ahead.

There was a time when I was angry at my step son for taking his life. Angry and hurt. He was a strong, loyal friend. He always stuck up for other kids at school if they were being bullied and surrounded himself with true friends who are still a part of our lives today.

Why was I angry? Because he had survived cancer once already at only 24.Testicular cancer. A lump he found when he was 17 and said nothing. He lived with the fear and doubt and did not tell anyone till he was in his early 20's there was something not right. It was operated on and he had chemo. He went into remission.

He made jokes. Showed us a brave face. But inside I think it was very different.
We think that he was afraid the cancer may have returned. He may have even gone back to the Dr and been told that. We dont know and we never will.

I was angry he didnt' tell us what was going on. He didn't reach out. There were no signs.

I reflect now and wonder if for some time he was facing the possible return of the cancer or had been told it was terminal.

This post is too wordy.

My point was only he knew what was going on.

Only ms_ann_thrope knows what her situation is.

Only Rogue25 knows what is going on in their life.

We all only know what is going on in our lives and what we think. How we would react or act out if things aren't going well in our lives.

I'm not making excuses for anybody.

I'm just commenting that no one here knows what is going on in someone else's life and we alone are responsible for our own words and actions.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

I disagree with you. The general board is well and truly known to be a forum that has posters on it who are honest - sometimes brutally honest.

We do have kiss asses too.
And fucktards, dickwads, flirty, sexy, sexist, kind, obnoxious and the list goes on.

I also know when life gives some people a giant kick in the ass everyone
reacts differently. Some accept. Some are fucking angry. Denial. Sadness. Resilience. Once again the list goes on.

No one likes facing their possible death and not knowing what is ahead.

There was a time when I was angry at my step son for taking his life. Angry and hurt. He was a strong, loyal friend. He always stuck up for other kids at school if they were being bullied and surrounded himself with true friends who are still a part of our lives today.

Why was I angry? Because he had survived cancer once already at only 24.Testicular cancer. A lump he found when he was 17 and said nothing. He lived with the fear and doubt and did not tell anyone till he was in his early 20's there was something not right. It was operated on and he had chemo. He went into remission.

He made jokes. Showed us a brave face. But inside I think it was very different.
We think that he was afraid the cancer may have returned. He may have even gone back to the Dr and been told that. We dont know and we never will.

I was angry he didnt' tell us what was going on. He didn't reach out. There were no signs.

I reflect now and wonder if for some time he was facing the possible return of the cancer or had been told it was terminal.

This post is too wordy.

My point was only he knew what was going on.

Only ms_ann_thrope knows what her situation is.

Only Rogue25 knows what is going on in their life.

We all only know what is going on in our lives and what we think. How we would react or act out if things aren't going well in our lives.

I'm not making excuses for anybody.

I'm just commenting that no one here knows what is going on in someone else's life and we alone are responsible for our own words and actions.

You basically disagreed with me and then wrote a novel saying the same thing I did.

 

[Adre]

You basically disagreed with me and then wrote a novel saying the same thing I did.

That occurred to me as well.

 

[unregistered]

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

ditto

 

[Debbie]

You basically disagreed with me and then wrote a novel saying the same thing I did.

It was long winded. I contemplated not posting at all.


Perhaps I did not get my point across.

I think you are very angry at the world and your situation.

Sometimes what is handed to us in the game of life can be a shit hand.


And it sucks.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

It was long winded. I contemplated not posting at all.


Perhaps I did not get my point across.

I think you are very angry at the world and your situation.

Sometimes what is handed to us in the game of life can be a shit hand.


And it sucks.

I agree with ANN and I never agree with ANN.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

It was long winded. I contemplated not posting at all.


Perhaps I did not get my point across.

I think you are very angry at the world and your situation.

Sometimes what is handed to us in the game of life can be a shit hand.


And it sucks.

It's a bit.

 

[Debbie]

I agree with ANN and I never agree with ANN.

Should I alert the MEDIA?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Should I alert the MEDIA?

No, but you may consider the implication, or you might not. Youre the timid sort.