The 8th Annual Literotica Award Nominations: Sexiest Female Character In A Story

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scouries said:
First I made no claim above to be a great writer; instead I simply presented the numbers the story has produced. They are accurate as of yesterday morning and are used to simply argue that Miss/Mrs. James was Literoticas most popular female character with our readers in 2006.

My Dear Boxlicker

When I said my story was in the top 300 of all time I obviously meant for Most Reads of all time. Go to ‘Toplists’ then click ‘Most Read Stories’ and you will find my story at #269 (as of today) on the most read stories in Literotica history. It is one of only two 2006 Literotica stories (not 2007 as I inadvertently typed) in the top 500 all time and the higher ranked of the two. No other story in 2006 was viewed more often! There can be absolutely no argument of this fact. Check yourself.

But of course you’re quite right when you say a ‘view’ doesn’t necessarily mean the story was ‘read’. However my guess is that there is a pretty darn close correlation between ‘views’ and ‘reads’ and that generally a story with more ‘views’ usually gets more ‘reads’ than one with less ‘views’. Like 99.999% of the time!

And if you consider that ‘Daddy, I Whispered’ has at least 100,000 more ‘views’ than all but a handful of 2006 stories, and more than a quarter million more ‘views’ than most, it’s would be hard to argue that some other story had more ‘reads’.

This argument is further augmented in my case by the fact that my story, even after repeated sweeps, still has over 5200 ‘legitimate’ votes, however the authorities define them. No other story has ever received more!

And as I said, the story has also produced over 700 e-mails, and while some are sent anonymously, over 500 included a return e-mail address. And the 200+ comments speaks for itself.

Quite frankly sir I’ll stand by my assertion that no other female Literotica character in 2006 was more popular than Miss/Mrs. James. Don’t pick on her; just send her the prize for Christ’s sake. The numbers don’t lie.

In fact I’d love it if Literotica published the numbers for ‘views’, ‘votes’, ‘average’, and ‘comments’ for every story (Why not? The other site does it and there seems a lot less hostility over there.). Would you? Somehow I don’t think so.

Generally speaking, when somebody speaks of a story as being in the top XX, it is a reference to voting average, not views. The number of times a story is clicked on means little or nothing. I did look and I saw that the story in question has over 350,000 views, and is in the top 500 all time, but I attached little or no signifigance to that.

In the mid-1950's, the Cincinnati Reds had an excellent baseball team, one of the best around. An enthusiastic sportswriter compared them to the alltime great teams and one year he decided to try to get the whole starting lineup elected to the National League All Star team, which was selected by fan voting at the time. He and his cohorts copied millions of ballots and mailed them to the baseball commissioner's office. He had a lot of help from the team's many fans in Cincinnati.

The commissioner's office was amazed at getting so many ballots. Until then, even the best players rarely got as many as a million votes and here was a whole team getting more than twice that many. To make it even stranger, there were a normal number of ballots for the American League All Star team.

The commish smelled a rat. His office decided it was just not possible for so many legitimate votes to be cast like that, naming an entire team as all stars. It was obvious that the ballot box had been stuffed by fans of the Reds. In order to maintain fairness, they threw out the ballots that did not include American League votes. The result was a normal number of ballots. Several of the Cincinnati players were selected anyhow. As I said, they had some excellent players.

A few years ago, Rosie Ruiz was announced as the female winner of the New York Marathon. This is an important sports event and attracts world class runners, and they all asked "Rosie Who?" The victory seemed implausible to them because they had never heard of Ms Ruiz and none of them could remember seeing her on the race route. Once again, a rat was smelled, and Rosie finally fessed up to having taken a bus for almost the entire distance. She had wanted to impress her friends by finishing, but had accidentally come in first. She was stripped of her championship and the former runner-up was declared the winner.

I regard your votes to be on the same order as the votes for the Reds. It is just not possible for so many votes to be legitimately cast for a story by a relative newcomer in less than a year. It's obvious to me and probably to most people who think about it, that the ballot box is being stuffed by you or some fans of yours.

I don't know how the sweeps are made, but I doubt that anybody goes over all the votes looking for those that are not valid. I would suppose there is a computer program that does this, which would mean it would be possible for some computer whiz to circumvent the system, and I am quite sure this has happened.

If you look at the 500 top ranked stories (in terms of average score) for every category, over 15,000 highly ranked stories, none of them has as many as 5,000 votes, and some of them have been around for five years or more. I know the story has hundreds of PC also, but most of them were sent anonyomously. If I felt like it, I could write hundreds of anon. PC for one of my stories. You say you have 700 emails but I have never seen any of them, and they could have all been sent in a matter of hours by one or two people.

As in the all Cincinnati all star team or the Rosie Ruiz victory, it is obvious to me there is something fishy (or ratty). I do not believe your story could have that many votes or that many PC or that many emails and have earned them legitimately. I doubt if the views are all legit either, but I don't care about them.

Average scores and total PC are available for all stories. Number of votes is available for all stories in the top 500 of a category. Only the individual authors know how many views their individual stories have. It wouldn't bother me if all this info were to be made available for every story but I don't think it is worthwhile doing so.
 
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cloudy said:
Amen, Bearlee. :)

I realize that a bit of an ego is pretty much a requirement to be a writer, but some really go overboard, eh?

Hey Cloudy-putting all that aside-hope everything is going well for you :cathappy:

Boxlicker101 said:
Generally speaking, when somebody speaks of a story as being in the top XX, it is a reference to voting average, not views. The number of times a story is clicked on means little or nothing. I did look and I saw that the story in question has over 350,000 views, and is in the top 500 all time, but I attached little or no signifigance to that.

In the mid-1950's, the Cincinnati Reds had an excellent baseball team, one of the best around. An enthusiastic sportswriter compared them to the alltime great teams and one year he decided to try to get the whole starting lineup elected to the National League All Star team, which was selected by fan voting at the time. He and his cohorts copied millions of ballots and mailed them to the baseball commissioner's office. He had a lot of help from the team's many fans in Cincinnati.

The commissioner's office was amazed at getting so many ballots. Until then, even the best players rarely got as many as a million votes and here was a whole team getting more than twice that many. To make it even stranger, there were a normal number of ballots for the American League All Star team.

The commish smelled a rat. His office decided it was just not possible for so many legitimate votes to be cast like that, naming an entire team as all stars. It was obvious that the ballot box had been stuffed by fans of the Reds. In order to maintain fairness, they threw out the ballots that did not include American League votes. The result was a normal number of ballots. Several of the Cincinnati players were selected anyhow. As I said, they had some excellent players.

A few years ago, Rosie Ruiz was announced as the female winner of the New York Marathon. This is an important sports event and attracts world class runners, and they all asked "Rosie Who?" The victory seemed implausible to them because they had never heard of Ms Ruiz and none of them could remember seeing her on the race route. Once again, a rat was smelled, and Rosie finally fessed up to having taken a bus for almost the entire distance. She had wanted to impress her friends by finishing, but had accidentally come in first. She was stripped of her championship and the former runner-up was declared the winner.

I regard your votes to be on the same order as the votes for the Reds. It is just not possible for so many votes to be legitimately cast for a story by a relative newcomer in less than a year. It's obvious to me and probably to most people who think about it, that the ballot box is being stuffed by you or some fans of yours.

I don't know how the sweeps are made, but I doubt that anybody goes over all the votes looking for those that are not valid. I would suppose there is a computer program that does this, which would mean it would be possible for some computer whiz to circumvent the system, and I am quite sure this has happened.

If you look at the 500 top ranked stories (in terms of average score) for every category, over 15,000 highly ranked stories, none of them has as many as 5,000 votes, and some of them have been around for five years or more. I know the story has hundreds of PC also, but most of them were sent anonyomously. If I felt like it, I could write hundreds of anon. PC for one of my stories. You say you have 700 emails but I have never seen any of them, and they could have all been sent in a matter of hours by one or two people.

As in the all Cincinnati all star team or the Rosie Ruiz victory, it is obvious to me there is something fishy (or ratty). I do not believe your story could have that many votes or that many PC or that many emails and have earned them legitimately. I doubt if the views are all legit either, but I don't care about them.

Average scores and total PC are available for all stories. Number of votes is available for all stories in the top 500 of a category. Only the individual authors know how many views their individual stories have. It wouldn't bother me if all this info were to be made available for every story but I don't think it is worthwhile doing so.

Actually, around the beginning of the year I put my submission page on as a new thread in AH so folks could try to figure out stuff about categories but nobody seemed to care.

The Reds had a good team? It took them more than 20 years to get a chance to lose their second World Series in a row to the Yankees in '61 :D

I don't know if you can stuff the "ballot box" on voting. Can't you only vote once from a particular PC? The views, I suppose a person, a better a group of people working together, could easily pump up a view count.

I just looked and I have one story with 1666 votes and 407,000 clicks but it's been around since 2002. I guess the vote thing could be right based on the number of views in that particular category. I only have something like 5 there but the views related to voting percentage is similar, the other ones just have fewer views :eek:

Cincinnati in the '50s :confused:
 
Boxlicker101 said:
I know the story has hundreds of PC also, but most of them were sent anonyomously. If I felt like it, I could write hundreds of anon. PC for one of my stories.

Just so.

Have you read any of the comments, Box? Every single one of them (on the newest story) are from "anonymous" and every one of them is so similar to the others as to be indistiguishable. They all say "best story ever!" Too bad originality isn't a longsuit of Mr. Scouries.

Everyone would love to be nominated for a year end award. I would consider winning one an absolute accolade, but I sure wouldn't resort to nominating myself, much less manufacturing comments and numbers to make it seem appropriate.

If you're that good, scouries, why hasn't someone else nominated you, or any of your stories?

'nuff said.


Bearlee: I'm doing good, thanks. :kiss:
 
cloudy said:
Just so.

Have you read any of the comments, Box? Every single one of them (on the newest story) are from "anonymous" and every one of them is so similar to the others as to be indistiguishable. They all say "best story ever!" Too bad originality isn't a longsuit of Mr. Scouries.

Everyone would love to be nominated for a year end award. I would consider winning one an absolute accolade, but I sure wouldn't resort to nominating myself, much less manufacturing comments and numbers to make it seem appropriate.

If you're that good, scouries, why hasn't someone else nominated you, or any of your stories?

'nuff said.


Bearlee: I'm doing good, thanks. :kiss:

Glad you're doing well. You made me look :D I didn't see any comments on the latest one. I looked at two or three other ones and some of the comments are identical from one to the next. You nominate him :rolleyes: :D
 
bearlee said:
Hey Cloudy-putting all that aside-hope everything is going well for you :cathappy:



Actually, around the beginning of the year I put my submission page on as a new thread in AH so folks could try to figure out stuff about categories but nobody seemed to care.

The Reds had a good team? It took them more than 20 years to get a chance to lose their second World Series in a row to the Yankees in '61 :D

I don't know if you can stuff the "ballot box" on voting. Can't you only vote once from a particular PC? The views, I suppose a person, a better a group of people working together, could easily pump up a view count.

I just looked and I have one story with 1666 votes and 407,000 clicks but it's been around since 2002. I guess the vote thing could be right based on the number of views in that particular category. I only have something like 5 there but the views related to voting percentage is similar, the other ones just have fewer views :eek:

Cincinnati in the '50s :confused:

The specific year was 1956. The Reds finished in third place, with the Brooklyn Dodgers winning the pennant that year but losing in the World Series. They had outstanding hitting but rather weak pitching, which was their downfall that year. Here is a link:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/1956.shtml

You are supposed to be able to vote once from one PC, but I am sure there are computer whizes who can get around that, but I don't know how. If I knew, I could be winning contests right and left, although I doubt that I would do something that dishonest.

The story of yours that you mention has a lot of votes and a lot of views but it has been around about five years, compared with the one of Scouries that has been around less than one year. Your average of .0041 vvotes per view is reasonable, and is higher than my average.
 
scouries said:
And the above figure doesn’t include the other 1000 votes that were swept away in a nefarious plot hatched by the Authors Hangout’s most devious minds last November.

I am one of the most devious minds in the AH but never heard of you and have no idea wtf you are talking about.

When votes on my stories are removed I assume a well-meaning reader voted twice.

Does Manu and Laurel know about this plot where the AH controls voting?

If it were even partly true Laurel would kick some butts.

I came here to see who had been nominated, why is there just a bunch of posts from you?

Can the thread continue now?

:heart:
 
I've been lurking... but the thing with readers/views. . . has made me chuckle.

I have an Illustrated story: A Few Lamps From His Collection. . .it has 114861 and was posted on 08/01/06.

I'm not stupid! I know all those people didn't read that story. They clicked it, scrolled down and saw there were no porn pics and then left. Viewed yes. . .Read No.

edited to add... 92 votes and 7 comments. :rolleyes:
 
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Lisa Denton said:
I am one of the most devious minds in the AH but never heard of you and have no idea wtf you are talking about.

When votes on my stories are removed I assume a well-meaning reader voted twice.

Does Manu and Laurel know about this plot where the AH controls voting?

If it were even partly true Laurel would kick some butts.

I came here to see who had been nominated, why is there just a bunch of posts from you?

Can the thread continue now?

:heart:




Aye, he probably lost 1,000 votes because he voted for himself.

Manu tracks accounts AND ISPs. Multiple votes from either are removed...all of them.



And you CANNOT nominate yourself. If you could, no one would ever win. We'd all be voting for ourselves.


Now back to AUTHENTIC nominations please.
 
can the thread continue?

miss lisa denton Unfortunately I’ve never heard of you either.

As to contacting either Laurel or Manu I’ve tried. I’ve never received a reply to one of my many messages. Ever! (And from what certain others have posted this is not that unusual).

As to your, ‘I came here to see who had been nominated, why is there just a bunch of posts from you? you might ask yourself why there are so few posts on any of these nomination threads. This one started on the 15th of January and in the following 2 days 15 responses were made (of which 4 were by bear and 3 by simon – strangely you don’t complain about the bunch of posts they made!)

I made my first post, a legitimate nomination, two full weeks later, two weeks during which no other Literotician had posted a reply. Basicly the thread, and interest in it, was dead. You should be happy we’ve got it going again. It may bring a few more nominations out of the woodwork.

J.R.S.
 
to Boxlicker

FYI Here are the votes as received by month – also showing the three major sweeps I’ve noticed. Strangely I’ve never voted for this story – quite frankly it never needed it!

MONTH ................................VOTES....................TOTAL

February................................... 1051
March....................................... 834........................1885
April.......................................... 577........................2462
May...........................................533........................2995
June..........................................566........................3561
July........................................... 551.......................4112
August.......................................744........................4856
September.................................444.........................5300
October.....................................398
October sweeps.........................-701.........................4998
November ...................................363
November sweeps.......................-266........................5095
December……………………………...…………590…………………………..5685
January………………………………......………527………………......…….6212
February !st and 2nd sweeps …..-1012…………....………..5200
February……………………………………….133…………………………….5333

All time high – hit on Jan 31st 2007 – 6212 votes. Total that I’ve documented being swept away – 1979 votes.

And no Boxlicker I don’t send myself e-mails or post anonymous comments on my stories – again, I simply don’t have to.

As to your statement, “It is just not possible for so many votes to be legitimately cast for a story by a relative newcomer in less than a year,” of course it is. Your comment simply reflects your jealousy.

And your, ”If you look at the 500 top ranked stories (in terms of average score) for every category, over 15,000 highly ranked stories, none of them has as many as 5,000 votes,” you’re quite right. ‘Daddy, I Whispered’ is the #1 voter getter of all time. Ask Manu. As in everything somebody and some story has to be #1. It’s a delight for me to be up there with the giants like BobbyT, Chicago Bob, youbadboy, G.H. Lawrence, masterhypnotist, ronde, TawnyT, Wm_Sexspear and the greatest vote collector of all time, rgjohn among others.

Here’s another ‘vote’ story for you. I entered a story in the Valentines Day Contest on Thursday. It was put up on Literotica yesterday. Isn’t a particularly great story but when I checked the votes this morning this is what I found:

28,821 views and 1481 votes. Again I didn’t get a chance to vote on my own story. And yes, I am quite sure a large number of them will disappear in the next sweep but still, it is a big vote number!

The main reason I get votes is because I ask for them. This is what I wrote at the end of the story:

PLEASE VOTE!!!! It only takes 2 seconds to click the 5 circle (or some lower number if you must) and then click 'submit vote', and yet that small action sends very greatly appreciated feedback to me. Of course, I'd also love to hear from you. Your thoughts make writing the story fun. E-mail me or post a public comment below; anonymously or openly. I will answer back to all who leave a contact address. But if you don't have the time or don't wish to comment, please, at least VOTE.

For your information my recent stories have, on average, got clicked onto by 60,000+ readers but only average 500 to 600 votes. This low voting rate -- about 1 out every 100 people who open the story vote -- is actually better than most writers here receive. Many stories struggle to receive 10 or 20 votes total! So please vote for this story and other stories you read on this site.

Happy Valentine's Day

Jim


The first day vote to viewer figure on this story works out to about 5%. Maybe you should try the system in the future. I guarantee your vote totals will go up and your average score down.

I suggest you spend less time in the future making scurrilous, defamatory, libelous and unfounded accusations against a fellow author.
 
scouries said:
FYI Here are the votes as received by month – also showing the three major sweeps I’ve noticed. Strangely I’ve never voted for this story – quite frankly it never needed it!

MONTH ................................VOTES....................TOTAL

February................................... 1051
March....................................... 834........................1885
April.......................................... 577........................2462
May...........................................533........................2995
June..........................................566........................3561
July........................................... 551.......................4112
August.......................................744........................4856
September.................................444.........................5300
October.....................................398
October sweeps.........................-701.........................4998
November ...................................363
November sweeps.......................-266........................5095
December……………………………...…………590…………………………..5685
January………………………………......………527………………......…….6212
February !st and 2nd sweeps …..-1012…………....………..5200
February……………………………………….133…………………………….5333

All time high – hit on Jan 31st 2007 – 6212 votes. Total that I’ve documented being swept away – 1979 votes.

And no Boxlicker I don’t send myself e-mails or post anonymous comments on my stories – again, I simply don’t have to.

As to your statement, “It is just not possible for so many votes to be legitimately cast for a story by a relative newcomer in less than a year,” of course it is. Your comment simply reflects your jealousy.

And your, ”If you look at the 500 top ranked stories (in terms of average score) for every category, over 15,000 highly ranked stories, none of them has as many as 5,000 votes,” you’re quite right. ‘Daddy, I Whispered’ is the #1 voter getter of all time. Ask Manu. As in everything somebody and some story has to be #1. It’s a delight for me to be up there with the giants like BobbyT, Chicago Bob, youbadboy, G.H. Lawrence, masterhypnotist, ronde, TawnyT, Wm_Sexspear and the greatest vote collector of all time, rgjohn among others.

Here’s another ‘vote’ story for you. I entered a story in the Valentines Day Contest on Thursday. It was put up on Literotica yesterday. Isn’t a particularly great story but when I checked the votes this morning this is what I found:

28,821 views and 1481 votes. Again I didn’t get a chance to vote on my own story. And yes, I am quite sure a large number of them will disappear in the next sweep but still, it is a big vote number!

The main reason I get votes is because I ask for them. This is what I wrote at the end of the story:

PLEASE VOTE!!!! It only takes 2 seconds to click the 5 circle (or some lower number if you must) and then click 'submit vote', and yet that small action sends very greatly appreciated feedback to me. Of course, I'd also love to hear from you. Your thoughts make writing the story fun. E-mail me or post a public comment below; anonymously or openly. I will answer back to all who leave a contact address. But if you don't have the time or don't wish to comment, please, at least VOTE.

For your information my recent stories have, on average, got clicked onto by 60,000+ readers but only average 500 to 600 votes. This low voting rate -- about 1 out every 100 people who open the story vote -- is actually better than most writers here receive. Many stories struggle to receive 10 or 20 votes total! So please vote for this story and other stories you read on this site.

Happy Valentine's Day

Jim


The first day vote to viewer figure on this story works out to about 5%. Maybe you should try the system in the future. I guarantee your vote totals will go up and your average score down.

I suggest you spend less time in the future making scurrilous, defamatory, libelous and unfounded accusations against a fellow author.

Hi, Jim. Happy Valentine's Day to you.

First, I didn't say you had voted for your story thousands of times. I said you or somebody else had.

Even though Incest/Taboo is probably the most popular category in terms of views and possibly votes, I still find it extremely hard to believe that any one story would get over a thousand votes in its first nine days, and hundreds of votes a month in every month after that. If I were watching a crap game, and one player threw 100 straight sevens, I would be inclined to believe the dice were loaded. It is theoretically possible they weren't, just as it is theoretically possible for you to get all those votes, or for the eight position players on a baseball team to receive millions of votes and be elected to the All-Star team, or for Rosie Ruiz to win the New York Marathon. However, any of these events is so far outside the bounds of probability that I would consider them to be impossible, and would suspect chicanery. In Logic, I think that would be called Occam's Razor.

I do ask for votes and comments on my stories, not as slavishly as you do, but I ask nonetheless. What I say is that I appreciate them.
 
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scouries said:
miss lisa denton Unfortunately I’ve never heard of you either.

As to contacting either Laurel or Manu I’ve tried. I’ve never received a reply to one of my many messages. Ever! (And from what certain others have posted this is not that unusual).

As to your, ‘I came here to see who had been nominated, why is there just a bunch of posts from you? you might ask yourself why there are so few posts on any of these nomination threads. This one started on the 15th of January and in the following 2 days 15 responses were made (of which 4 were by bear and 3 by simon – strangely you don’t complain about the bunch of posts they made!)

I posted one nomination (for someone else's story, not one of mine - and no, the someone else did not ask me to). I made a second post following up to a nomination which had not included a link to its story, to supply that link; and I made a third post to apologise for having done so.

scouries said:
I made my first post, a legitimate nomination, two full weeks later, two weeks during which no other Literotician had posted a reply. Basicly the thread, and interest in it, was dead. You should be happy we’ve got it going again. It may bring a few more nominations out of the woodwork.

I'm not one to comment about whether it's legitimate to nominate your own story - I don't make the rules. Nor can I comment on whether you have been spamming the voting system.

However, what I can say is that if I add this line:

5,15,25,35,45,55 * * * * wget --user-agent="Vote spammer" http://www.literotica.com:81/stories/vote.php?storyid=000001&page=1&pagehint=1&vote=5

to my crontab, then every five minutes from now until the end of time story 000001 will receive a vote of 5. There are many other equally simple methods
of spamming the voting system, and its for that reason that the admins periodically sweep out excess votes from the same IP address for the same story. The fact that - as you document - your votes have been hit by those sweeps indicate that someone is vote-spamming your stories. If it isn't you, then it it's someone else.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
The specific year was 1956. The Reds finished in third place, with the Brooklyn Dodgers winning the pennant that year but losing in the World Series. They had outstanding hitting but rather weak pitching, which was their downfall that year. Here is a link:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/1956.shtml

You are supposed to be able to vote once from one PC, but I am sure there are computer whizes who can get around that, but I don't know how. If I knew, I could be winning contests right and left, although I doubt that I would do something that dishonest.

The story of yours that you mention has a lot of votes and a lot of views but it has been around about five years, compared with the one of Scouries that has been around less than one year. Your average of .0041 vvotes per view is reasonable, and is higher than my average.

Shit-now you're going to have me pissing off Lisa :eek: Yeah, the pitching was pretty bad wasn't it. The Reds of the 70s were pretty damn good though. Birdie brings back memories when I was growing up and he was managing the Indians. Of course the Indians sucked but had some pretty cool players even though baseball wasn't really their game.

The vote thing, I didn't work out the percentage, but it was only for that category. There's others with more views and fewer votes. I think it's just that category. I remember when I used to watch stuff like that I was amazed at the number of views and votes in the first 24-48 hours compared to anything else submitted previously.

SimonBrooke said:
I posted one nomination (for someone else's story, not one of mine - and no, the someone else did not ask me to). I made a second post following up to a nomination which had not included a link to its story, to supply that link; and I made a third post to apologise for having done so.

I remember that because I added a link for someone too and you got bitched at for doing it :D

I'm not one to comment about whether it's legitimate to nominate your own story - I don't make the rules. Nor can I comment on whether you have been spamming the voting system.

However, what I can say is that if I add this line:

5,15,25,35,45,55 * * * * wget --user-agent="Vote spammer" http://www.literotica.com:81/stories/vote.php?storyid=000001&page=1&pagehint=1&vote=5

to my crontab, then every five minutes from now until the end of time story 000001 will receive a vote of 5. There are many other equally simple methods
of spamming the voting system, and its for that reason that the admins periodically sweep out excess votes from the same IP address for the same story. The fact that - as you document - your votes have been hit by those sweeps indicate that someone is vote-spamming your stories. If it isn't you, then it it's someone else.

This confuses me though-how does going to the story page add votes or whatever it does :confused:
 
SimonBrooke said:
- the character's name
Devan
- the title of the story in which she lived
Changed Girl
- the author of the story
Varian P

Devan is a very fresh take on the innocent virgin captive in the BDSM/abduction story. She is innocent/not innocent in complex and interesting ways. She's also extremely sexy in a very introspective and intellectual way, and she doesn't fall into the classic blonde-with-large-breasts porn heroine meme.

Strongly recommended.

I would like to second this nomination. A very good piece of work all round and the character is fascinating.
 
SimonBrooke said:
I posted one nomination (for someone else's story, not one of mine - and no, the someone else did not ask me to). I made a second post following up to a nomination which had not included a link to its story, to supply that link; and I made a third post to apologise for having done so.



I'm not one to comment about whether it's legitimate to nominate your own story - I don't make the rules. Nor can I comment on whether you have been spamming the voting system.

However, what I can say is that if I add this line:

5,15,25,35,45,55 * * * * wget --user-agent="Vote spammer" http://www.literotica.com:81/stories/vote.php?storyid=000001&page=1&pagehint=1&vote=5

to my crontab, then every five minutes from now until the end of time story 000001 will receive a vote of 5. There are many other equally simple methods
of spamming the voting system, and its for that reason that the admins periodically sweep out excess votes from the same IP address for the same story. The fact that - as you document - your votes have been hit by those sweeps indicate that someone is vote-spamming your stories. If it isn't you, then it it's someone else.


Simon...
You are very smart. :)
:kiss:
 
Simon

Sir,
Does this mean that there’s a techno geek out there somewhere who’s madly in love with me? And somehow is automatically voting on my stories? I love this girl! How do I find her? It’s not you is it Selena?

Also:
-What is a crontab?
-Why’d this bitch let them take 2000 votes away if she’s so smart?
-What does she look like?
-Scotland has computer experts?
-Do you guys still wear dresses (kilts) when you’re out on a date?

JRS
 
Another Question for Simon

‘Legitimate Vote’ Questions

I got this e-mail (honest) on my most recent story:

Great story my sister xxxxxx and i enjoyed it. we have been lovers for 4 yrs and you get a 5 from both of us. hope to read more from you soon. thanx ….

This is addressed to you Simon or anyone else who actually understand what defines whether a vote is legitimate or not. When the next sweeps hit will I be left with:

a) 0 vote
b) 1 vote
c) 2 votes

The second question. Will the computer on which these votes were made be:

a) allowed to vote in future
b) watched carefully but be forgiven if the Pope blesses it
c) forever blackballed

JRS
 
Scouries, allow me to interject for a moment. I don't see the corelation between number of reads/votes and Sexiest Female Character. You may have a case for Most Popular, but that is certainly different than sexiest.

A decade or more ago, 'Murder She Wrote' was near, or at the top of the TV ratings. While Angela Lansbury was extremely popular in her role as Jessica Fletcher, I don't think anyone would have nominated her for sexiest actress in a lead role.
 
Sounds like you struck a nerve there, SimonBrooke. Methinks Mr. scouries doth protest a bit much.

Tsk, tsk, on you, scouries, for slandering Simon with a cheap shot like 'do you still wear dresses (kilts) when you go out on a date?'

That would be like someone saying, 'Nice AV, scouries. Your daughter has a nice body.'

I've noticed, Jim (can I call you Jim?) that you have been very dilligent in answering your critics with very thorough and vehement responses . . . all save one:

cloudy said:
If you're that good, scouries, why hasn't someone else nominated you, or any of your stories?

Why, Indeed.

Now, of course, you can't possibly know what is going on in the minds of your many thousands of readers, Jim, otherwise you would know why NOT A SINGLE ONE has seconded your vote for the apparently delectable Miss/Mrs. Stephanie James. I see three possible reasons for this:

A) Since the majority of them are non-members (since they vote annonymously), they do not have access to the forums and are thus unaware of this category nomination.
B) They trust in your magnificent and incomparable skill to defy the odds without their intervention.
C) They do not exist at all.

Certainly, I would hate to think that the third choice is correct. What an incredible let-down that would be for us all.

I have noticed that, amongst the public comments posted on your stories, that a few of them are not annonymous, and thus give you a means to respond to them. Being the gracious author that you are, with your urgent suggestion at the end of your stories to vote and otherwise support you, I cannot imagine that you would not have at least casually mentioned this thread to them. Surely, with so many glowing commendations on your work, at least ONE would appear in your defense.

. . . Hmm . . .

Thought they might have shown up by now.

Oh, but they must be frightened by the 'nefarious plot' against you. Certainly, you told them of that. Why else would they stay away?

Or, perhaps they have been blocked. You might want to PM Laurel or Manu about that possibility.

*snap!* That's right, they don't answer you. Sorry about your luck, buddy. Guess the whole world's against you now, huh?

***

Now on to the real purpose of this thread.

(As much as I would love to nominate on of my own characters for this award, it would be conceited, unethical, and pathetic to do so. Besides, I have to admit, there is better talent out there)

I have never read Varian P's work before, and for that I am very nearly ashamed. Following a link supplied above (as I did to all other such nominated works), I read the chapters concerning young Miss Devan's transformation.

I have to admit that the first three lines of the chapter hooked me. That seldom occurs. From then on, I could not stop reading.

Devan's transformation from innocent girl into sultry seductress certainly qualifies as 'sexy.' It may even redefine the word. I am jealous of Conrad, in a way.

Therefore, I feel I must support the nomination of Devan, from 'Changed Girl,' by Varian P, for the sexiest female character on Lit this year.

Please accept this nomination in its purest form, as praise and appreciation, not withstanding the first portion of this post.

Slyc
 
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scouries said:
This is addressed to you Simon or anyone else who actually understand what defines whether a vote is legitimate or not. When the next sweeps hit will I be left with:

a) 0 vote
b) 1 vote
c) 2 votes

The second question. Will the computer on which these votes were made be:

a) allowed to vote in future
b) watched carefully but be forgiven if the Pope blesses it
c) forever blackballed

OK, I'm not the person to ask. I don't administer this system. But from what the people who do administer this system say, the answers are b to the first question, and c to the second. Only one vote from one IP address will ever be allowed for the same story; and, because most people these days use dynamic IP addresses, there is some limitation that I don't fully understand on votes from the same ISP.

It's a blunt instrument. If I and my partner were to vote on the same story, only one of our votes would be recorded, because our domestic network is connected to the Internet via a masquerading router, so our votes would appear to come form the same address. Furthermore, we connect through the Internet via BT, who have millions of customers. Our IP address is actually static, but there's no way that Literotica can economically check this; so if there's a flurry of votes from BT addresses it's impossible for Literotica to tell whether a story has suddenly become popular with BT users or the story is being deliberately spammed.

So there will undoubtedly be cases where legitimate votes are being deleted. But it won't be happening systematically more to you than to anyone else. Furhermore, this isn't some negligence or malfeasance of the Literotica admins, it's a consequence of the way the Internet is designed. There are fundamentally three options:

(1) Allow vote spamming; do nothing about it
(2) Use the imperfect measures the admins are currently using
(3) Require an international identify card system for all people in the world, and require a government issued digital certificate to validate each vote.

It can be done. The British government, certainly, wants to do it. Do you want that? I surely don't!
 
slyc_willie said:
Sounds like you struck a nerve there, SimonBrooke. Methinks Mr. scouries doth protest a bit much.

Tsk, tsk, on you, scouries, for slandering Simon with a cheap shot like 'do you still wear dresses (kilts) when you go out on a date?'

That would be like someone saying, 'Nice AV, scouries. Your daughter has a nice body.'

I'm not the least offended, Willie. Of course we still wear kilts on occasion, and let me tell you, on a hot date a kilt can be an extremely practical garment. If Scouries wants to go on wearing trousers, and have to unbuckle and unzip and then struggle around getting his shoes off and getting the trousers over his feet while his lady friend cools off and changes her mind... it isn't my problem.
 
SimonBrooke said:
I'm not the least offended, Willie. Of course we still wear kilts on occasion, and let me tell you, on a hot date a kilt can be an extremely practical garment. If Scouries wants to go on wearing trousers, and have to unbuckle and unzip and then struggle around getting his shoes off and getting the trousers over his feet while his lady friend cools off and changes her mind... it isn't my problem.

Lol. Good point. Too bad a kilt would get me beaten and hung here in Texas . . . .
 
drksideofthemoon said:
Scouries, allow me to interject for a moment. I don't see the corelation between number of reads/votes and Sexiest Female Character. You may have a case for Most Popular, but that is certainly different than sexiest.

A decade or more ago, 'Murder She Wrote' was near, or at the top of the TV ratings. While Angela Lansbury was extremely popular in her role as Jessica Fletcher, I don't think anyone would have nominated her for sexiest actress in a lead role.


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

logic wins again... :cathappy:

I love smart guys. :kiss:
 
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