The Alien Enemies Act - 1798

[Rightguide]

You're admitting that you want people you dislike to be treated like non humans.

All of your arguments stem from that. You truly don't give a shit about the law as long as people you hate are the target.

You admit you want Trump to be tried by judges who hate him. I hope you have to face a judge who hates you someday.

 

[ll74]

You admit you want Trump to be tried by judges who hate him

Nope.

I hope you have to face a judge who hates you someday.

I hope you aren't deported without any defense to a torture prison

The difference is that you target a group of people and prefer they get shipped off to another country without a defense. I have no issue with Trump being able to defend himself in court against charges.

 

[HisArpy]

You're admitting that you want people you dislike to be treated like non humans.

All of your arguments stem from that. You truly don't give a shit about the law as long as people you hate are the target.

Welcome to membership in the 55% of Democrats who think assassination is ok as long as it's someone they don't like club.

 

[ll74]

Welcome to membership in the 55% of Democrats who think assassination is ok as long as it's someone they don't like club.

I am not part of that club, sorry princess.

I also think human beings deserve to be able to defend themselves against allegations.

Even if they are non citizens.

 

[HisArpy]

I am not part of that club, sorry princess.

I also think human beings deserve to be able to defend themselves against allegations.

Even if they are non citizens.

Only to the extent allowed by law. Because anything more or less isn't the law.

 

[ll74]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1909439036902482086

 

[ll74]

Meanwhile, southernTexas federal judge blocks deportations using the Alien Enemies Act

https://twitter.com/x/status/1909999036704112881

 

[ll74]

This is why the argument is about due process not whether you believe the guy is a gang banger. If the worst of get no due process then the best of us don't either

https://twitter.com/x/status/1915946597189620115

 

[Politruk]

When we learned about the Alien Enemies Act in high-school U.S. history, we learned of it as an Old Shame, enacted under a regrettably authoritarian, xenophobic and paranoid Federalist administration.

No reason has emerged to revise that assessment.

 

[Rightguide]

New: Body Cam Footage of 'Maryland Dad' Abrego-Garcia Released, and Democrats Look Like Imbeciles​

By Bonchie | 10:06 PM on May 01, 2025

Democrats might want to rethink making Kilmar Abrego-Garcia the face of their movement if newly released body cam footage is any indication of where things are headed. And to be clear, that's rhetorical, because it's absolutely an indication of where things are headed.

For those unfamiliar with the Abrego-Garcia saga, the illegal immigrant was recently deported back to his home country of El Salvador. Because he was sent to CECOT, the Central American nation's gang prison (mostly made up of MS-13 members), controversy broke out about whether sufficient due process was given. Multiple judges have been involved, and the Trump administration has been ordered to "facilitate" Abrego-Garcia's return to the United States. There's just one problem: El Salvador said no, and since he's their citizen, the United States has no ability to undo his deportation. That's left the two sides of the issue in a stalemate.

But while that's the very abbreviated version of the situation, the more interesting part of this has been the Democrat response. Immediately, they turned Abrego-Garcia into a symbol of their anti-Trump resistance, with left-wing press outlets taking to calling him a "Maryland dad" to project sympathy. Is that all he is, though? Let's just say it's a bit more complicated.

While Abrego-Garcia has been alleged to be an MS-13 member from the beginning of this story due to some very compelling evidence, more recently, it was revealed that his wife also took out multiple restraining orders against him after he allegedly beat her. Then there was a traffic stop in 2022 where the now-deported illegal immigrant was suspected of human trafficking. That's where this newly released body cam footage comes into play.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1918096549038760188

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/0...d-it-makes-democrats-look-ridiculous-n2188595

Caught in the middle of human trafficking. Democrats always pick a mound of shit to die on.

 

[Politruk]

FederalJudge Govt can’t rely on Alien Enemy Act to deport Venezuelans

WASHINGTON (TNND) — A federal judge has issued a significant ruling, barring the Trump administration from deporting Venezuelans from Texas under the Alien Enemies Act.

U.S. District Court Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr. ruled that the 18th-century wartime law cannot be used against individuals the administration claims are gang members invading the United States. Rodriguez Jr., nominated by Trump in 2018, is the first judge to do so.

However, he stated, "the President’s invocation of the AEA through the Proclamation exceeds the scope of the statute and is contrary to the plain, ordinary meaning of the statute’s terms."

In March, President Donald Trump issued a proclamation alleging that the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua was invading the U.S. He said he had special powers to deport migrants identified by his administration as gang members, without usual court proceedings.

 

[Politruk]

New: Body Cam Footage of 'Maryland Dad' Abrego-Garcia Released, and Democrats Look Like Imbeciles​

By Bonchie | 10:06 PM on May 01, 2025

Democrats might want to rethink making Kilmar Abrego-Garcia the face of their movement if newly released body cam footage is any indication of where things are headed. And to be clear, that's rhetorical, because it's absolutely an indication of where things are headed.

For those unfamiliar with the Abrego-Garcia saga, the illegal immigrant was recently deported back to his home country of El Salvador. Because he was sent to CECOT, the Central American nation's gang prison (mostly made up of MS-13 members), controversy broke out about whether sufficient due process was given. Multiple judges have been involved, and the Trump administration has been ordered to "facilitate" Abrego-Garcia's return to the United States. There's just one problem: El Salvador said no, and since he's their citizen, the United States has no ability to undo his deportation. That's left the two sides of the issue in a stalemate.

But while that's the very abbreviated version of the situation, the more interesting part of this has been the Democrat response. Immediately, they turned Abrego-Garcia into a symbol of their anti-Trump resistance, with left-wing press outlets taking to calling him a "Maryland dad" to project sympathy. Is that all he is, though? Let's just say it's a bit more complicated.

While Abrego-Garcia has been alleged to be an MS-13 member from the beginning of this story due to some very compelling evidence, more recently, it was revealed that his wife also took out multiple restraining orders against him after he allegedly beat her. Then there was a traffic stop in 2022 where the now-deported illegal immigrant was suspected of human trafficking. That's where this newly released body cam footage comes into play.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1918096549038760188

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/0...d-it-makes-democrats-look-ridiculous-n2188595

Caught in the middle of human trafficking. Democrats always pick a mound of shit to die on.

That's redstate, you idiot!

And even if he were guilty, coyote work -- transporting immigrants for money -- is not human trafficking. White slavery is human trafficking.

 

[Politruk]

You admit you want Trump to be tried by judges who hate him.

That is a lie.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I like how desperate the Whackadoodle right has become, insisting that driving a van full of day laborers for your employer (in your employer's van, no less) constitutes "human trafficking".

Next up, when the next friendly bilingual school bus driver gets arrested by the ICE Gestapo, we'll be hearing on Fox about her "documented history of involvement in child trafficking".

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

New: Body Cam Footage of 'Maryland Dad' Abrego-Garcia Released, and Democrats Look Like Imbeciles​

By Bonchie | 10:06 PM on May 01, 2025

Democrats might want to rethink making Kilmar Abrego-Garcia the face of their movement if newly released body cam footage is any indication of where things are headed. And to be clear, that's rhetorical, because it's absolutely an indication of where things are headed.

For those unfamiliar with the Abrego-Garcia saga, the illegal immigrant was recently deported back to his home country of El Salvador. Because he was sent to CECOT, the Central American nation's gang prison (mostly made up of MS-13 members), controversy broke out about whether sufficient due process was given. Multiple judges have been involved, and the Trump administration has been ordered to "facilitate" Abrego-Garcia's return to the United States. There's just one problem: El Salvador said no, and since he's their citizen, the United States has no ability to undo his deportation. That's left the two sides of the issue in a stalemate.

But while that's the very abbreviated version of the situation, the more interesting part of this has been the Democrat response. Immediately, they turned Abrego-Garcia into a symbol of their anti-Trump resistance, with left-wing press outlets taking to calling him a "Maryland dad" to project sympathy. Is that all he is, though? Let's just say it's a bit more complicated.

While Abrego-Garcia has been alleged to be an MS-13 member from the beginning of this story due to some very compelling evidence, more recently, it was revealed that his wife also took out multiple restraining orders against him after he allegedly beat her. Then there was a traffic stop in 2022 where the now-deported illegal immigrant was suspected of human trafficking. That's where this newly released body cam footage comes into play.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1918096549038760188

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2025/0...d-it-makes-democrats-look-ridiculous-n2188595

Caught in the middle of human trafficking. Democrats always pick a mound of shit to die on.

So you’re championing an argument that he’s not coming back because Trump is bad at the part of his job that Trump swears he’s the best at??

Please make that make sense.

 

[Politruk]

When we learned about the Alien Enemies Act in high-school U.S. history, we learned of it as an Old Shame, enacted under a regrettably authoritarian, xenophobic and paranoid Federalist administration.

No reason has emerged to revise that assessment.

And no one in this thread has presented any such reason.

 

[ll74]

A judge tells us all (again)what we already know. The AEA was improperly used

The declassified assessment said that most of the intelligence community "judges that intelligence indicating that regime leaders are directing or enabling TDA migration to the United States is not credible."

This isn't an invasion by another country. This isn't a war with another country

And the President can deport people without the use of this act.

Fuck off, 47

https://www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/judge-blocks-trump-alien-enemies-act-southern-district-of-new-york/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM=#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=17466329829209&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-alien-enemies-act-southern-district-of-new-york/

Hellerstein also said that the grounds for Mr. Trump's proclamation — that Tren de Aragua has engaged in either a war, invasion or predatory incursion of the U.S. — "do not exist."

"There is nothing in the AEA that justifies a finding that refugees migrating from Venezuela, or TdA gangsters who infiltrate the migrants, are engaged in an 'invasion' or 'predatory incursion,'" he wrote.

 

[Politruk]

That's redstate, you idiot!

And even if he were guilty, coyote work -- transporting immigrants for money -- is not human trafficking. White slavery is human trafficking.

And this wasn't even coyote work, it was just giving some guys a ride to work.

 

[Rightguide]

• American News
• May 13, 2025

BREAKING: Federal judge rules Trump admin can use Alien Enemies Act to deport illegal immigrant gang members​

"The Court now leaves it to the Political Branches of the government, and ultimately to the people who elect those individuals, to decide whether the laws and those executing them continue to reflect their will," she concluded.

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May 13, 20252 minute read


A federal judge in Pennsylvania has sided with the Trump administration in its invocation of the Alien Enemies Act to swiftly deport illegal immigrants that are part of gangs that have been designated as terrorist organizations.

Judge Stephanie L Haines for the US District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania wrote, "As the Court stressed at the beginning of this Opinion, this case implicates significant issues. In resolving those issues, this Court’s unflagging obligation is to apply the law as written. When the Court does so, it finds that the Proclamation now at issue complies with the [Alien Enemies Act], and the Court further finds that Respondents must provide greater notice to those subject to removal under the AEA than they are currently providing."

"Having done its job, the Court now leaves it to the Political Branches of the government, and ultimately to the people who elect those individuals, to decide whether the laws and those executing them continue to reflect their will," she concluded.

Haines wrote in relation to the proclamation issued by Trump in March invoking the Act, "the Proclamation and the Declarations that Respondents have submitted to this Court indicate that there is factual basis for President Trump’s conclusions in the Proclamation."

More here on how wrong 1174 is: https://thepostmillennial.com/break...ies-act-to-deport-criminal-illegal-immigrants

 

[ll74]

• American News
• May 13, 2025

BREAKING: Federal judge rules Trump admin can use Alien Enemies Act to deport illegal immigrant gang members​

"The Court now leaves it to the Political Branches of the government, and ultimately to the people who elect those individuals, to decide whether the laws and those executing them continue to reflect their will," she concluded.

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Hannah NightingaleWashington DC
May 13, 20252 minute read


A federal judge in Pennsylvania has sided with the Trump administration in its invocation of the Alien Enemies Act to swiftly deport illegal immigrants that are part of gangs that have been designated as terrorist organizations.

Judge Stephanie L Haines for the US District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania wrote, "As the Court stressed at the beginning of this Opinion, this case implicates significant issues. In resolving those issues, this Court’s unflagging obligation is to apply the law as written. When the Court does so, it finds that the Proclamation now at issue complies with the [Alien Enemies Act], and the Court further finds that Respondents must provide greater notice to those subject to removal under the AEA than they are currently providing."

"Having done its job, the Court now leaves it to the Political Branches of the government, and ultimately to the people who elect those individuals, to decide whether the laws and those executing them continue to reflect their will," she concluded.

Haines wrote in relation to the proclamation issued by Trump in March invoking the Act, "the Proclamation and the Declarations that Respondents have submitted to this Court indicate that there is factual basis for President Trump’s conclusions in the Proclamation."

More here on how wrong 1174 is: https://thepostmillennial.com/break...ies-act-to-deport-criminal-illegal-immigrants

It's wrongly being used. There is no invasion or war.

Don't give a shit whether this judge agrees.

Those deported are still required habeas per SCOTUS.

 

[Rightguide]

It's wrongly being used. There is no invasion or war.

Don't give a shit whether this judge agrees.

Those deported are still required habeas per SCOTUS.

There is no need for a declared war in order to impose the AEA. The discretion is the President's alone. We have been invaded and Americans are being harmed.

 

[Rightguide]

I like how desperate the Whackadoodle right has become, insisting that driving a van full of day laborers for your employer (in your employer's van, no less) constitutes "human trafficking".

Next up, when the next friendly bilingual school bus driver gets arrested by the ICE Gestapo, we'll be hearing on Fox about her "documented history of involvement in child trafficking".

Everyone here illegally needs to be removed.

 

[ll74]

There is no need for a declared war in order to impose the AEA.

I never said there was.

The discretion is the President's alone. We have been invaded and Americans are being harmed.

We have not. Americans are being harmed by random criminals as per usual.
Under your delusional brain, you'd deport Democrats and claim invasion.

 

[Politruk]

There is no need for a declared war in order to impose the AEA. The discretion is the President's alone. We have been invaded and Americans are being harmed.

Immigration is not invasion.

 

[Politruk]

Everyone here illegally needs to be removed.

Why? We would in no way be better off without them.