The Confessional

[1FreakyGirl]

I was wearing boxers. And a blanket, because I was asleep.

I see. Probably would've been more interesting had you not been wearing anything. But that's just me.

 

[dragonrazor]

I see. Probably would've been more interesting had you not been wearing anything. But that's just me.

heh heh. Can't sleep like that. Makes me sweat more, oddly.

 

[Ausus_girl13]

heh heh. Can't sleep like that. Makes me sweat more, oddly.

And he wonders...

Draggy- what are we going to do with you?

You deserve to be smacked for this one... a girl flirts with you and you start talking about sweat?! Dear god man!

Bangs head on wall

ICT I am holding one last shred of hope. I refuse to let it be killed. Someday, before I die, I am sure someone will sit on Draggy's lap in bunny costume. Won't be me, but someday.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

ICT it is time for a shower

 

[Vail_Indigo]

ICT a bath would feel better

 

[Drunken_Angel]

And he wonders...

Draggy- what are we going to do with you?

You deserve to be smacked for this one... a girl flirts with you and you start talking about sweat?! Dear god man!

Bangs head on wall

ICT I am holding one last shred of hope. I refuse to let it be killed. Someday, before I die, I am sure someone will sit on Draggy's lap in bunny costume. Won't be me, but someday.

There's always Easter at the local mall.

 

[dragonrazor]

And he wonders...

Draggy- what are we going to do with you?

You deserve to be smacked for this one... a girl flirts with you and you start talking about sweat?! Dear god man!

Bangs head on wall

ICT I am holding one last shred of hope. I refuse to let it be killed. Someday, before I die, I am sure someone will sit on Draggy's lap in bunny costume. Won't be me, but someday.

I'd rather it be Sasha the nympho anthro bunny than a girl in a bunny outfit.

 

[Ausus_girl13]

ICT there are no words. None. I have a friend who firmly believes age players and furreh's aren't people. I may co-opt his ideals.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

ICT there are no words. None. I have a friend who firmly believes age players and furreh's aren't people. I may co-opt his ideals.

There are people who dehumanize for the strangest of reasons. My guess is he sees these two types of play as so taboo that you have to be inhuman to play them.

I don't think we are defined by our taboos. Maybe our culture is but...

 

[dragonrazor]

There are people who dehumanize for the strangest of reasons. My guess is he sees these two types of play as so taboo that you have to be inhuman to play them.

I don't think we are defined by our taboos. Maybe our culture is but...

I think our culture is the problem. Or maybe it's our religions and their "everything that's not human is evil" idea.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

I think our culture is the problem. Or maybe it's our religions and their "everything that's not human is evil" idea.

You are mistaking the statement, leaving out a crucial bit.
Cannibalism is one of the near-universal taboos.
There are, though, cannibalistic tribes.
The thing is, they don't see anyone outside of their tribe as human (or however they see themselves).

You won't hear me defending religion often, but the whole "I'm human you aren't" thing has little to do with religion.
Further, the statement is actually "I'm human, you are less than human"

 

[dragonrazor]

You are mistaking the statement, leaving out a crucial bit.
Cannibalism is one of the near-universal taboos.
There are, though, cannibalistic tribes.
The thing is, they don't see anyone outside of their tribe as human (or however they see themselves).

You won't hear me defending religion often, but the whole "I'm human you aren't" thing has little to do with religion.
Further, the statement is actually "I'm human, you are less than human"

The problem with that is that cannibalism is PART of their religion. Literally, they believe that by eating the flesh of their enemies, they absorb their strength.

 

[Drunken_Angel]

You are mistaking the statement, leaving out a crucial bit.
Cannibalism is one of the near-universal taboos.
There are, though, cannibalistic tribes.
The thing is, they don't see anyone outside of their tribe as human (or however they see themselves).

You won't hear me defending religion often, but the whole "I'm human you aren't" thing has little to do with religion.
Further, the statement is actually "I'm human, you are less than human"

I would tend to think that human vs animal actually pulls from colonialism and specifically, its justification for oppression that made classification as Human dependent upon "character" rather than biology.

When I hear someone using an idea of not being human as degrading, I immediately jump to colonialism.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

The problem with that is that cannibalism is PART of their religion. Literally, they believe that by eating the flesh of their enemies, they absorb their strength.

I suppose this depends on your definition of religion.
Not all cannibalistic tribes do that.
REGARDLESS, hate exists outside of religion.
The 'other' exists outside of religion.
When we have conflict that leads to violence, the dehumanizing of our foes is incredibly useful.
I feel religion is one of the great blights of humanity, but you can't blame everything on it.

 

[dragonrazor]

I would tend to think that human vs animal actually pulls from colonialism and specifically, its justification for oppression that made classification as Human dependent upon "character" rather than biology.

When I hear someone using an idea of not being human as degrading, I immediately jump to colonialism.

British Imperialist Expansionism.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

I would tend to think that human vs animal actually pulls from colonialism and specifically, its justification for oppression that made classification as Human dependent upon "character" rather than biology.

When I hear someone using an idea of not being human as degrading, I immediately jump to colonialism.

which goes with what I said after your post.
Conflict, dehumanization, so you get to kill without guilt.

 

[dragonrazor]

I suppose this depends on your definition of religion.
Not all cannibalistic tribes do that.
REGARDLESS, hate exists outside of religion.
The 'other' exists outside of religion.
When we have conflict that leads to violence, the dehumanizing of our foes is incredibly useful.
I feel religion is one of the great blights of humanity, but you can't blame everything on it.

True, but religion is one of the oldest sources of hatred.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

True, but religion is one of the oldest sources of hatred.

no, not really.
Conflict, limited resources, land, things like that.
Thats the oldest source.

 

[dragonrazor]

no, not really.
Conflict, limited resources, land, things like that.
Thats the oldest source.

I'd like to point out that the world's oldest known land dispute is of a religious nature. Several different religions, actually.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

I'd like to point out that the world's oldest known land dispute is of a religious nature. Several different religions, actually.

Well that certainly over simplifies the conflict to the point of being a meaningless statement.
The fact that its been going on for 60 years isn't a testament to the power of religious hatred.
Or, as they say, length isn't everything.

 

[dragonrazor]

Well that certainly over simplifies the conflict to the point of being a meaningless statement.
The fact that its been going on for 60 years isn't a testament to the power of religious hatred.
Or, as they say, length isn't everything.

ahem...60 years? Try well over a thousand years. Jerusalem's been the center of a religious war between Christianity and Islam for centuries. Both religions claim it as the holy land. Multiple "Holy Wars". Throw in other nearby religions that claim it as their holy land, and you have to wonder what they see in a land so steeped in blood it can only be UNholy.

 

[Vail_Indigo]

ahem...60 years? Try well over a thousand years. Jerusalem's been the center of a religious war between Christianity and Islam for centuries. Both religions claim it as the holy land. Multiple "Holy Wars". Throw in other nearby religions that claim it as their holy land, and you have to wonder what they see in a land so steeped in blood it can only be UNholy.

THAT isn't a land dispute. Not like I meant.
You want to blame everything on religion, feel free.
It doesn't accurately reflect the world.
Hate existed before god.

 

[dragonrazor]

THAT isn't a land dispute. Not like I meant.
You want to blame everything on religion, feel free.
It doesn't accurately reflect the world.
Hate existed before god.

I think it's more accurate to say it's possible our gods were born out of hate, but how is that NOT the ultimate land dispute? The definition of a land dispute is two or more people fighting over the same piece of land. Jerusalem is the very embodiment of that.

 

[Drunken_Angel]

British Imperialist Expansionism.

Not only the Brits hun, most European countries participated in colonizing, and the underlying concept of the "savage" was a prevailing doctrine of the time.

And Vail, yeah, spot on.

 

[dragonrazor]

Not only the Brits hun, most European countries participated in colonizing, and the underlying concept of the "savage" was a prevailing doctrine of the time.

And Vail, yeah, spot on.

True, but the Brits were particularly notorious for their expansionism. Makes me ashamed of much of my heritage, actually.