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I'm watching X-Com: Enemy Unknown gameplay on youtube right now.

(I paid off the rest of my pre-order this evening. All I gotta do on the 9th is just get off work & pick it up at Gamestop.)
 
On your recommendation, Brax, I just watched "DKReturns" via Dailymotion.

I was gonna sit this one out. I mean, I'm not the hugest proponent of Frank Miller; I find much of his work needlessly misogynistic, playing off of gutter-deep stereotypes.

That said, I loved "Batman: Year One," and seeing that animated was pretty amazing.

(I also loved "Daredevil: Born Again," but I'm not holding my breath for that one.)

Anyway.

This was pretty awesome. It played off elements of Miller's work without leaning wholesale on his storytelling style. Yes, there was the fetishism of masculinity and the sniping at liberalism as being ineffectual and spineless, but they didn't seem as blatant as in some of Miller's print work.

(I liked that the visual of Carrie climbing back onto the fire escape during her rooftop self-training seemed to evoke a scene from "Year One," where Batman finds himself almost beaten by three young thugs... I wonder if that was intentional.)

Weller did a fantastic job voicing Batman. He was actually scary-- deeply scary --without evoking the much-mocked gravel of Bale's delivery; he was the perfect combination of RoboCop and Kevin Conroy.

The action scenes, save two, were brilliantly done. I felt like I was part of the myth.

(I liked that there were Alan Moore graphic novels on sale in the liquor store.)

The last line and its accompanying shot gave me freakin' chills.

Okay. Not bad, DC.

Thanks for the heads-up, A&W.
 
Chasnicollette said:
On your recommendation, Brax, I just watched "DKReturns" via Dailymotion.

I was gonna sit this one out. I mean, I'm not the hugest proponent of Frank Miller; I find much of his work needlessly misogynistic, playing off of gutter-deep stereotypes.

That said, I loved "Batman: Year One," and seeing that animated was pretty amazing.

(I also loved "Daredevil: Born Again," but I'm not holding my breath for that one.)

Anyway.

This was pretty awesome. It played off elements of Miller's work without leaning wholesale on his storytelling style. Yes, there was the fetishism of masculinity and the sniping at liberalism as being ineffectual and spineless, but they didn't seem as blatant as in some of Miller's print work.

(I liked that the visual of Carrie climbing back onto the fire escape during her rooftop self-training seemed to evoke a scene from "Year One," where Batman finds himself almost beaten by three young thugs... I wonder if that was intentional.)

Weller did a fantastic job voicing Batman. He was actually scary-- deeply scary --without evoking the much-mocked gravel of Bale's delivery; he was the perfect combination of RoboCop and Kevin Conroy.

The action scenes, save two, were brilliantly done. I felt like I was part of the myth.

(I liked that there were Alan Moore graphic novels on sale in the liquor store.)

The last line and its accompanying shot gave me freakin' chills.

Okay. Not bad, DC.

Thanks for the heads-up, A&W.
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And, on that note, I shall now watch it myself.
 
Just got home (been rained on all day) & saw you liked the film.

I agree, Miller can get preachy about his causes, but he did tell a very good story. I will definately be picking up part 2 when it comes out!
 
Ahren said:
For what?
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There's a new Green Arrow series called "Arrow" about to start on 10 October.

I haven't seen any trailers, and I was wondering if people had caught any positive buzz.

As an Englishwoman, I am duly bound to love all bowslingers, but if people think it sucks I can feign ignorance.
 
I'm not psyched up, but I'll give it a shot.

me & the wife just finished watching Elementary. She liked it & I thought it has promise.
 
Oh yeah I'm not very up to date on super hero stuff. I only just finally saw Dark Knight Rises last weekend. Think I liked it better than the second one.

Can't say I have too much hope for that Holmes show. Johnny Lee Miller is pretty good and Lucy Liu is attractive but I feel like House already did 'present day Sherlock Holmes' pretty well.
 
Ahren said:
Oh yeah I'm not very up to date on super hero stuff. I only just finally saw Dark Knight Rises last weekend. Think I liked it better than the second one.

Can't say I have too much hope for that Holmes show. Johnny Lee Miller is pretty good and Lucy Liu is attractive but I feel like House already did 'present day Sherlock Holmes' pretty well.
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Not to mention these guys.

And, yes, "DKR" was ridiculously good. It hit all the right notes with an eerily clinical precision and then knocked it out of the park at the end.
 
Most of them aren't embracing it.

Reminds me of my old Deadlands character ( a mad scientist that specialized in magnetic fields)
 
Okay.

Here's what bothers me about the concept, here. (Apparently I have my Movie Critic hat on today.)

You've gone and done a Rule 63 on John Watson. I have no objection to Rule 63 on the whole, but in this particular case?

This is problematic on two levels.

1) The whole thing with John Watson is that Holmes is constantly constantly showing him up, that's his bit, that's his whole gig. Holmes uses him as a dartboard and as a sounding board. So you turn John into a woman, you have a show whose formula is, basically, The Male One is Always Right. Which, hey, that's... progressive.

2) The Sherlockian fandom practically invented slashfic. The tireless theories about whether or not John and Sherlock were secretly intended to be an item, if they had some Victorian romance behind the scenes where they could not be ostracized or vilified... fanon often has it that John only married for purposes of visibility, and it surely broke Holmes' guarded heart. So, now, if they introduce sexual tension into the dynamic... it all just becomes obvious and far less tragic, far less, well, dynamic. I dunno, vanilla. Doesn't take the risk. Ho-hum. (Or, well, "het-hum," if you'll pardon the wordplay.)

Either way, my conclusion stands:

If you're going to Rule 63 one half of the Holmes/Watson duo... you need to Rule 63 both of them.

IMHO.

Okay, getting off the soapbox, going back to watching.
 
Like... are you trying to argue sexual tension between Holmes and Watson should be part of the Sherlock Holmes fiction because fans love Holmes/Watson slash? So in order to placate those people they must be the same sex?

Really?

Also Johnny Lee Miller was Crash Override. Hack the planet!
 
I personally think any sexual tension between the two protagonist will de-rail the show. A deep friendship yes, but leave out the nookie.
 
Ahren said:
Like... are you trying to argue sexual tension between Holmes and Watson should be part of the Sherlock Holmes fiction because fans love Holmes/Watson slash? So in order to placate those people they must be the same sex?

Really?

Also Johnny Lee Miller was Crash Override. Hack the planet!
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I'm saying that *if* you're going to include sexual tension and not make it a deep platonic bond (thank you, Brax), it should reflect historical precedent and not "play it safe." Only *if.*

"Hackers," right? I still need to see that.
 
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