The News Says that the Republican Brown is going to START with the Democrats

[Pookie]

Good morning Democrat tool.

Good morning, AJ. American Thinker appreciates your allowing them to think for you.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/12/merry_christmas_from_obamacare.html

We would appreciate you adding a link to M Allen Fritsch's article in the future.

Yours truly,
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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

And yet, you managed to find it so very quickly...





How low did your premiums go? Ours went up. This was going to save us money...


*nods*

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

With my now more affordable health care, maybe I can buy an alpaca!

But the government is unequalled in producing one thing: negative unintended consequences. Show me a government activity, and I will show you bad results that even the program's advocates probably don't like. Here's one example.

Congressmen say our government should "support and strengthen family-based agriculture."

Abstractly, supporting family-based agriculture sounds good. Government policies often harm small farms by favoring corporate agribusinesses. Government could help family farms by ending the subsidies that mostly go to the big guys. But that doesn't interest the politicians. They prefer to do things like creating tax breaks to encourage livestock breeding.

The tax breaks have led to a boom in alpaca breeding. Twenty-five years ago, there were 150 alpacas in America. Now, there are 150,000.

One website even advertises: "Have Uncle Sam Help You Buy Your Alpacas."

Rose Mogerman raises alpacas in New Jersey, the most densely populated state. "I fell in love with them," she said.

But she fell in love with the tax break first.

"Yes. I have to be honest," she said. "I might have had two. I wouldn't have had 100. ... I was looking for a tax shelter."

The Alpaca Breeders Association asked its members, on a scale of 1 to 10, what motivated them to get into alpaca breeding. More than half rated "tax benefits" a 10.

Yes, alpacas are cute. They are also valued for the fiber made from their fleece. But selling the fleece doesn't explain the growth in alpaca raising. At auctions, prices have gotten absurdly high. Half-ownership of one male alpaca sold for $750,000.

This is not necessarily a good thing. Economists at the University of California, Davis warn that the industry is in a speculative bubble. "Alpacas sold today as breeding stock have values wildly in excess of even the most optimistic scenarios based upon current fiber prices and production costs," Tina L. Saitone and Richard J. Sexton write.

John Stossel
Reason.com (Libertarian - Like I vote)

You can do the math sweetie, it's beyond me because for the life of me, I can't see how higher health insurance premiums are saving me the money I need to shelter in alpaca fleece...

 

[Pookie]

And yet, you managed to find it so very quickly...

It's never been hard to find who where you get your thoughts from.

How low did your premiums go? Ours went up. This was going to save us money...

*nods*

Mine stayed the same, so far. But it's not like the law is fully implemented or anything. Premature much, AJ?

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

"You cap your health care budget, and you make the political and economic choices you need to make to keep affordability within reach."
"And it's important also to make health a human right because the main health determinants are not health care but sanitation, nutrition, housing, social justice, employment, and the like [like free education d00d - A_J]."
"One over-demanded service is prevention: annual physicals, screening tests, and other measures that supposedly help catch diseases early [Pookie - A_J]."
Donald Berwick
Death Panel Czar

SHOW ME THE MATH POOKIE!!!

I'm too dummy to git it!

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

It's never been hard to find who where you get your thoughts from.

Mine stayed the same, so far. But it's not like the law is fully implemented or anything. Premature much, AJ?

So, it's going to go down, when?

When's government going to make it more affordable?

WHEN???



PS - I think you might be telling a little fib there...

 

[Pookie]

"You cap your health care budget, and you make the political and economic choices you need to make to keep affordability within reach."
"And it's important also to make health a human right because the main health determinants are not health care but sanitation, nutrition, housing, social justice, employment, and the like [like free education d00d - A_J]."
"One over-demanded service is prevention: annual physicals, screening tests, and other measures that supposedly help catch diseases early [Pookie - A_J]."
Donald Berwick
Death Panel Czar

SHOW ME THE MATH POOKIE!!!

I'm too dummy to git it!

You mean like what is $1.00 * 1.30?

You can't even do the simple stuff, AJ.

 

[Pookie]

So, it's going to go down, when?

When's government going to make it more affordable?

WHEN???

PS - I think you might be telling a little fib there...

Maybe when ... it's implemented? Did American Thinker tell you it was fully implemented, AJ?

Put the tea down, AJ.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

No, it was $1.00*1.30% but your good buddy Throb was t-t-t-t-too fucking stupid, blinded by his hate, to even get that right and I'm sure you don't even understand the context in which he tried to use that "math" to make a point, which outside of Bizzaroland was no where near what he thought he was trying to say.

You keep some classy company there lady. The pedophile attacked my kid again not just ten minutes ago.

You just HAVE to love Democrats if you don't want to get alpaca *spit* in your face...
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[RobDownSouth]

You mean like what is $1.00 * 1.30?

You can't even do the simple stuff, AJ.

He never did answer that question, did he?

For someone who routinely brags about having a "black belt", that's a surprising amount of basic cowardice.

Of course, running like hell away from superior (intellectual) firepower might be seen as a prudent course of action.....

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

You left off the % sign dummy...

 

[RobDownSouth]

You left off the % sign dummy...

130% of $1.00 is the same as $1.00 * 1.30

A tad surprising that someone like you with your purported degree in "mathmatics" (sic) doesn't have a grasp of such basic concepts...

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Maybe when ... it's implemented? Did American Thinker tell you it was fully implemented, AJ?

Put the tea down, AJ.

Describe the mechanism that is going to drive down the price then since all recent price hikes have been anticipatory of the actual result of 2000 pages of legislation, which you advocated for without even knowing what was in it because as Nancy said, "We'll have to pass it to know what's in it," and we won't know what's in it until Kathleen finishes writing the regulations.

MEANWHILE, (and maybe this is why your insurance did not go up) industrial friends of the Democrat Party have received over 250 waivers to protect them from this onerous law.

I guess it must have had some alpaca-like unintended consequences...

 

[Pookie]

PS - I think you might be telling a little fib there...

Actually, it did go up a tiny bit, but nothing like in years past. A fluke probably. It's likely not because of the health care law ... because it's not ... wait for it ... fully implemented yet.

You should practice more of that thinking for yourself though.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

And Pooks, your dummy is showing; if you search on the tea party threads, you'll find that I was opposed to the movement, mostly because it would be so easily demagogued...




AND, I was right, so just keep telling me to stop drinking the tea and I'll keep right on sipping my coffee.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Actually, it did go up a tiny bit, but nothing like in years past. A fluke probably. It's likely not because of the health care law ... because it's not ... wait for it ... fully implemented yet.

You should practice more of that thinking for yourself though.

It's not going to get any better when fully implemented.

That's just something you keep telling yourself so you don't have to seriously think about what was done to us in the name of reform...

It's all in the hands of some idiot woman governor from one of our smaller, backwater (I mean let's face it, they HATE education in KANSAS), rural redneck bible-thumping states, and we know how stupid people like that are.

 

[Pookie]

MEANWHILE, (and maybe this is why your insurance did not go up) industrial friends of the Democrat Party have received over 250 waivers to protect them from this onerous law.

I guess it must have had some alpaca-like unintended consequences...

I'm not an industrial friend, but its good to see you're trying to think here.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

130% of $1.00 is the same as $1.00 * 1.30

A tad surprising that someone like you with your purported degree in "mathmatics" (sic) doesn't have a grasp of such basic concepts...

Good fucking gawd but you're making the bad of doorknobs look like Einstein...

 

[Pookie]

It's not going to get any better when fully implemented.

That's just something you keep telling yourself so you don't have to seriously think about what was done to us in the name of reform...

It's all in the hands of some idiot woman governor from one of our smaller, rural redneck bible-thumping states, and we know how stupid people like that are.

I'm sure you believe it won't get any better, AJ. American Thinker wouldn't be happy with you if you did. Where would you get your material from if they cut you off?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Good fucking gawd but you're making the bad of doorknobs look like Einstein...

Maybe someday American Thinker will open up a math hotline.....

 

[Pookie]

And Pooks, your dummy is showing; if you search on the tea party threads, you'll find that I was opposed to the movement, mostly because it would be so easily demagogued....

Well, pardon me. I shouldn't assume that since you're so easily swayed by things like American Thinker that you'd be an easy useful idiot for the tea baggers ass well. My bad.

 

[Pookie]

You left off the % sign dummy...

Jesus Hussein Christ! You really do suck at math.

 

[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Pookie, in the history of all government programs which one actually came in on budget and did not require nearly annual reform acts? Or generally, do they just grow and get more expensive and more intrusive?



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[Frisco_Slug_Esq]

Jesus Hussein Christ! You really do suck at math.

If you had any idea of what vacuous and flawed position Throb is trying to take, even your AV would be blushing at how easily he made you look like an "American Thinker."

 

[Pookie]

130% of $1.00 is the same as $1.00 * 1.30

A tad surprising that someone like you with your purported degree in "mathmatics" (sic) doesn't have a grasp of such basic concepts...

He had Jefferson writing the Constitution the other day. But he knows all about the health care reform ... and START too! Yep, he's gonna tell me all I need to know. *nods*