The Next Generation

[jaF0]

I'm just saying that nothing changes. Listen to the lyrics of "For What It's Worth" and "Revolution". Nothing changes.

Christ. "For What It's Worth" was written over a half a CENTURY ago. It could have been written yesterday.

And most don't know even know what it was written in response to.

 

[Ramone45]

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LOL Brilliant!

 

[Amoebah]

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[stickygirl]

I think my generation is more tolerant and compassionate, but tolerance is something that seems to be lost with age. Most older people give up on learning, so they fall back on what they understood as a teenager or what their parents drummed into them. It’s a shame that many old people become so cynical and eaten up by frustration and disappointment, because the ones that keep an open mind and a sense of wonder are the most attractive and interesting.

So old and young will always be at odds with the each other and if change happens, it’s because stubbornness is pushed aside by innovation. It doesn’t mean that innovation and enthusiasm are always right, but remaining obsessed and fixated on the past is the road to oblivion.

and it’s ‘more stupid’, not ‘stupider’. Ooops, my grammar intolerance kicking in already

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

And most don't know even know what it was written in response to.

Because it was lame compared to real riots or a war. Nobody really gives a shit about a curfew.

 

[RobDownSouth]

and it’s ‘more stupid’, not ‘stupider’. Ooops, my grammar intolerance kicking in already

Excuse me? Do you not remember "Girls go to venus, to get more penis; guys go to Jupiter, to get more stupider" from high school?

 

[RobDownSouth]

Because it was lame compared to real riots or a war. Nobody really gives a shit about a curfew.

LOL Stephen Stills gave a shit and made quite a bit of money for his shitgiving.

 

[Rightguide]

And there you have it folks - the fear.

Not fear, but knowledge. Read The Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail, note as well it was written 45 years ago and predicted everything we see today.

 

[Antryg_Windrose]

I think my generation is more tolerant and compassionate, but tolerance is something that seems to be lost with age.

Many of us old guys are quite stuck on our tolerance for everything except stupidity, and intolerance, and rip-off pricing. Too many young folk are raised to be socially intolerant in intolerant surroundings. Age is not a ruling factor. Tolerance comes from how and maybe where we mature, not when we were born.

The national metaphor: America grew from infancy to senility without achieving maturity. Does America suffer from cultural Alzheimer's? What is the treatment?

 

[Antryg_Windrose]

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How old were the fashion show producers and costume designers who paid this poor sod to look like a retard? How old are the fools who will buy that vision?

 

[Rightguide]

Many of us old guys are quite stuck on our tolerance for everything except stupidity, and intolerance, and rip-off pricing. Too many young folk are raised to be socially intolerant in intolerant surroundings. Age is not a ruling factor. Tolerance comes from how and maybe where we mature, not when we were born.

The national metaphor: America grew from infancy to senility without achieving maturity. Does America suffer from cultural Alzheimer's? What is the treatment?

America achieved maturity and then devolved into adolescence where ever-present immaturity, naivete, and general ignorance, became sought after leadership qualities in half the population. So now we are facing a scenario where only the other half of the population has what it takes to survive what the future might bring. One thing it won't offer is sympathy for the ignorant.

 

[Sean]

Not fear, but knowledge. Read The Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail, note as well it was written 45 years ago and predicted everything we see today.

Vettebigot recommends reading white nationalist hate lit. I'm totally shocked by this development.

 

[WoundedKnee]

I think my generation is more tolerant and compassionate, but tolerance is something that seems to be lost with age. Most older people give up on learning, so they fall back on what they understood as a teenager or what their parents drummed into them. It’s a shame that many old people become so cynical and eaten up by frustration and disappointment, because the ones that keep an open mind and a sense of wonder are the most attractive and interesting.

So old and young will always be at odds with the each other and if change happens, it’s because stubbornness is pushed aside by innovation. It doesn’t mean that innovation and enthusiasm are always right, but remaining obsessed and fixated on the past is the road to oblivion.

and it’s ‘more stupid’, not ‘stupider’. Ooops, my grammar intolerance kicking in already

I somewhat discussed this on page one. This is the narcissism of youth who view themselves as good, the vanguard of a new world, being oppressed by the elderly. The conceit is that the elderly have learned nothing by living a full life and thus need to be shunted to the side so that new ideas may prevail. The problem is, that this has been the attitude ever since the 60s and 70s, those children who had a vision for a better world and yet were unable to alter it in the long run because of basic human nature, so they had to gain the maturity and the acceptance of reality and how to deal with it.

 

[Rightguide]

How old were the fashion show producers and costume designers who paid this poor sod to look like a retard? How old are the fools who will buy that vision?

The Fashion industry has long been the sole domain of disaffected gay males, progressive hedonists who see men and attempt to dress them in their own perverted image. Most of the men I know ridicule the hell out of it as an industry. Course as real men scoff, the beta weak, the metro morally lost, and the progressively stupid left love the hell out of it and do all they can to emulate the style.

 

[WoundedKnee]

The Fashion industry has long been the sole domain of disaffected gay males, progressive hedonists who see men and attempt to dress them in their own perverted image. Most of the men I know ridicule the hell out of it as an industry. Course as real men scoff, the beta weak, the metro morally lost, and the progressively stupid left love the hell out of it and do all they can to emulate the style.

So you're still wearing a Zoot Suit?

 

[Rightguide]

I somewhat discussed this on page one. This is the narcissism of youth who view themselves as good, the vanguard of a new world, being oppressed by the elderly. The conceit is that the elderly have learned nothing by living a full life and thus need to be shunted to the side so that new ideas may prevail. The problem is, that this has been the attitude ever since the 60s and 70s, those children who had a vision for a better world and yet were unable to alter it in the long run because of basic human nature, so they had to gain the maturity and the acceptance of reality and how to deal with it.

Problems are simple to solve when you're ignorant and have zero experience living with them.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Ignorant is not the right word. I would say a lack of unsheltered adult experience or something like that. It's so easy to think that you have the answers as a college student or just a very young working adult and so easy to let it turn into resentment once you realize that you're not going to start out at the top and the generation before you does not time to stop and entertain your better way of ordering things. However, the young altruist will soon be challenged by the next wave of young people who know better.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Problems are simple to solve when you're ignorant and have zero experience living with them.

Yes, but as I just edited to clarify, if you are trying to talk to someone and not at them, then ignorant is a negative subjective term. As Jimi would say, "Are you experienced?"

 

[Rightguide]

Ignorant is not the right word. I would say a lack of unsheltered adult experience or something like that. It's so easy to think that you have the answers as a college student or just a very young working adult and so easy to let it turn into resentment once you realize that you're not going to start out at the top and the generation before you does not time to stop and entertain your better way of ordering things. However, the young altruist will soon be challenged by the next wave of young people who know better.

To me one can be ignorant of knowledge derived from experience as well as from the lack of formal education, ie: "time in grade." Those young people who resent older people forget it comes from a lifetime of experience and unless we start putting people to sleep at age 40, nothing is going to change.

 

[WoundedKnee]

I get that. However, the person(s) you use it against only view it as a pejorative. Just because they are speaking in ascriptive tones does not mean we should reply in same and thus end any attempt at dialog. Are we not to use the wisdom of years to try and create a bridge of understanding?

 

[Rightguide]

Yes, but as I just edited to clarify, if you are trying to talk to someone and not at them, then ignorant is a negative subjective term. As Jimi would say, "Are you experienced?"

Ignorance isn't really negative, it's simply being unaware of certain facts. The negativity associated with ignorance is rooted in the personal embarrassment of having that lack of knowledge pointed out.

 

[WoundedKnee]

Ignorance isn't really negative, it's simply being unaware of certain facts. The negativity associated with ignorance is rooted in the personal embarrassment of having that lack of knowledge pointed out.

Another thought. If you want to label someone as ignorant, then that title could probably be awarded to the older generation elements who never grew up and out of it who not only support the young in their machinations, but also rail against the adults in their midst who shouldered the burden of keeping their world in order. Of course, that is a segment of our population that simply cannot be embarrassed over their conceit.

But, I do not think that is something that we should tell to young people who are advocating their first public ideas. It might make them as bitter as the oldies who I just alluded to.

 

[Rightguide]

I get that. However, the person(s) you use it against only view it as a pejorative. Just because they are speaking in ascriptive tones does not mean we should reply in same and thus end any attempt at dialog. Are we not to use the wisdom of years to try and create a bridge of understanding?

Personally, I think we're better off as a nation and a people if the knowledgeable treat the presumptuously ignorant with a benevolent hostility.

 

[Rightguide]

Another thought. If you want to label someone as ignorant, then that title could probably be awarded to the older generation elements who never grew up and out of it who not only support the young in their machinations, but also rail against the adults in their midst who shouldered the burden of keeping their world in order. Of course, that is a segment of our population that simply cannot be embarrassed over their conceit.

But, I do not think that is something that we should tell to young people who are advocating their first public ideas. It might make them as bitter as the oldies who I just alluded to.

How much tolerance did your dad have for a dumb idea?

 

[WoundedKnee]

How much tolerance did your dad have for a dumb idea?

I don't know. He wasn't around much.