The NRA is sinking.

[phrodeau]

What will be more relevant in 6 months, the NRA or the Hogg movement.

NRA’s got Congress until January 2019. I suspect that they will be trying to make the most of it.

 

[richard_daily]

By all means, throw money onto a sinking ship. Would you like me to remind you again later?

You still haven't told anyone how it's "sinking". Donations are up, revenues are up, membership is up. By all metrics, it's not sinking at all.

You sound a bit like Donald Trump with his "failing" New York Times obsession.

I just went on the NRA site, and I couldn't do it. The live streaming NRA TV had them talking about how mark zuckerburg is a liberal... and then talking about ziggy and friggy or someone I didn't care about and how they were "censored" from youtube, facebook, and twitter at the same time for "telling the truth". They are as guilty of embroiling themselves in a pointless culture war as much as you are.

I'll donate some money to the 2nd amendment foundation today instead, in your honor buddy.

 

[phrodeau]

(edited)

You still haven't told anyone how it's "sinking".

https://i.imgur.com/tMXfEOj.png

 

[richard_daily]

https://i.imgur.com/tMXfEOj.png

Ah, so it's not actually sinking, you just wish that it was.

Enjoy the culture warring! I'm sure it will help you in your happiness and plans for retirement.

 

[Hypoxia]

Most NRA members do not know that when the NRA was founded in 1871 it was founded as a hunting club. It was not until the 1970's that it became a political lobbying group.

Snopes: Was the NRA Founded to Protect Black People from the Ku Klux Klan? -- "Revisionist accounts of the origin of the National Rifle Association say it was formed to help freed slaves defend themselves against racist attacks after the Civil War."

False...

According to NRA co-founder George Wingate’s own account in his 1896 History of the Twenty-Second Regiment of the National Guard of the State of New York, the organization was founded to fulfill a perceived need to provide marksmanship training for members of the armed forces, prompting his authorship of a rifle training manual and participation in the creation of the National Rifle Association:

"The instructions which had thus been prepared by the writer were afterwards elaborated by him in a series of articles published in the Army and Navy Journal during 1869 and 1870, which excited much discussion in military circles. They led to the formation of the National Rifle Association in September 1871... These regulations constituted the foundation of Wingate’s Manual of Rifle Practice, which was written at the request of the National Rifle Association to supply a book which would serve as a manual of instruction for the National Guard."​

Not a hunting club. Not Antifas. A military training auxiliary.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The "I got me a buncha weapons" demographic usually succor the NRA when their policies are criticized following mass school shooting. That's not unusual.

What IS unusual is that the NRA cannot get anyone to pivot the discussion away from the easy availability of AR-15s .

Because they don't have to.

They aren't any easier to get ahold of than any other semi-automatic rifles.

 

[Que]

The "I got me a buncha weapons" demographic usually succor the NRA when their policies are criticized following mass school shooting. That's not unusual.

What IS unusual is that the NRA cannot get anyone to pivot the discussion away from the easy availability of AR-15s . "Thoughts 'n Prayers", "but...but..mental illness" and "it was the FBI's fault"...people are recognizing these chimeras as the illusions they are.

The harsh reality is that the NRA is losing influence with the general public, and is galvanizing the next generation of voters to vote against the NRA's puerile public agenda.

The NRA would do well to hit their membership fringe up for donations....they're going to need them. The price of a politician's vote is about to become much more costly.

That does sound serious. What do you think should be done about the easy availability of Ruger Mini-14s?

 

[RobDownSouth]

That does sound serious. What do you think should be done about the easy availability of Ruger Mini-14s?

The Ruger Mini-14 has been used in several mass shootings over the years. I still think you'd be better off with firing an AR-15 into a crowd.

 

[BotanyBoy]

The Ruger Mini-14 has been used in several mass shootings over the years. I still think you'd be better off with firing an AR-15 into a crowd.

Non answer...and an ignorant ass one at that LOL

 

[phrodeau]

The Ruger Mini-14 has been used in several mass shootings over the years. I still think you'd be better off with firing an AR-15 into a crowd.

If we start banning, one by one, every model of gun used in a mass shooting, maybe eventually gun manufacturers will get the message.

 

[richard_daily]

If we start banning, one by one, every model of gun used in a mass shooting, maybe eventually gun manufacturers will get the message.

If you'd actually start blaming the people committing violent crimes with such vigor and gusto, maybe you'd have a point.

But as it stands, you don't.

Crusader phrodeau is sinking.

 

[Hypoxia]

NRA Admits Accepting Money From 23 Russia-Linked Donors
http://www.newsweek.com/nra-admits-accepting-money-23-russia-linked-donors-882310

NRA, In New Document, Acknowledges More Than 20 Russian-Linked Contributors
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/11/6015...dges-more-than-20-russian-linked-contributors

NRA got more money from Russia-linked sources than earlier reported
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/11/nra-russia-money-guns-516804

NRA discloses two dozen additional contributions from Russian donors
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nra-...ontributions-russian-donors/story?id=54395292

Neither the news nor the fungible dollars are fake. Fungible means once the NRA has money from anywhere, they can spend it on anything. Like domestic campaigns. With illegal foreign money. Lock-em up!

 

[richard_daily]

NRA Admits Accepting Money From 23 Russia-Linked Donors
http://www.newsweek.com/nra-admits-accepting-money-23-russia-linked-donors-882310

NRA, In New Document, Acknowledges More Than 20 Russian-Linked Contributors
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/11/6015...dges-more-than-20-russian-linked-contributors

NRA got more money from Russia-linked sources than earlier reported
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/11/nra-russia-money-guns-516804

NRA discloses two dozen additional contributions from Russian donors
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nra-...ontributions-russian-donors/story?id=54395292

Neither the news nor the fungible dollars are fake. Fungible means once the NRA has money from anywhere, they can spend it on anything. Like domestic campaigns. With illegal foreign money. Lock-em up!

We'll get to it right after AIG those accountable for the financial collapse of 2008 are prosecuted.

 

[doowdniw]

By all means, throw money onto a sinking ship. Would you like me to remind you again later?

Can't we just throw them an anchor instead? A really big anchor - the kind that goes right through the hull?

 

[Hypoxia]

We'll get to it right after AIG those accountable for the financial collapse of 2008 are prosecuted.

Obama and Holder screwed America bigly because they're corporate schlugs who didn't bite their owners. They didn't prosecute Dubya's gang for war crimes and crimes against humanity either. Shameful. Expected.

 

[Que]

The Ruger Mini-14 has been used in several mass shootings over the years. I still think you'd be better off with firing an AR-15 into a crowd.

Really? Given that the same size magazines are available for Mini-14 as the AR-15s and they both shoot the same .243 ammunition at the exact same rate of fire*, why?

*one at a time.

 

[Que]

NRA Admits Accepting Money From 23 Russia-Linked Donors
http://www.newsweek.com/nra-admits-accepting-money-23-russia-linked-donors-882310

NRA, In New Document, Acknowledges More Than 20 Russian-Linked Contributors
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/11/6015...dges-more-than-20-russian-linked-contributors

NRA got more money from Russia-linked sources than earlier reported
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/11/nra-russia-money-guns-516804

NRA discloses two dozen additional contributions from Russian donors
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nra-...ontributions-russian-donors/story?id=54395292

Neither the news nor the fungible dollars are fake. Fungible means once the NRA has money from anywhere, they can spend it on anything. Like domestic campaigns. With illegal foreign money. Lock-em up!

So you admit that Planned Parenthood does use massive amounts of Federal money to perform abortions? I'm surprised that anyone on the left understands the concept of the fungibility of money.

 

[Que]

If we start banning, one by one, every model of gun used in a mass shooting, maybe eventually gun manufacturers will get the message.

What message? To do exactly what with their designed-to-be-lethal product?

Is it is this about your brilliant idea about banning triggers again?

 

[phrodeau]

http://time.com/5248072/nora-coalition-celebrities-nra/

A new coalition of celebrities and activists, including actor Alyssa Milano and Parkland student David Hogg, announced plans Friday to take on the National Rifle Association and elected officials who accept money from the powerful gun advocacy group.

In an open letter to NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre, which was first obtained by TIME, the more than 100 members of the newly formed NoRA Initiative — short for No Rifle Association — pledge to reduce the NRA’s influence in American politics through a series of voter registration drives, nationwide art campaigns, demonstrations and boycotts.

“Your time signing checks in our blood is up,” the letter says. “We’re coming for your money. We’re coming for your puppets. And we’re going to win.”

 

[phrodeau]

The NRA has announced that firearms will not be permitted at their convention during the visit by their keynote speaker.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parkla...sident-nra-conference-ban-guns-cameron-kasky/

Fred Guttenberg, father of 14-year-old Jaime Guttenberg, who died in the Parkland attack, decried the gun rights group's stance at this week's Dallas event.

"According to the NRA, we should want everyone to have weapons when we are in public," he wrote. "But when they put on a convention, the weapons are a concern? I thought giving everyone a gun was to enhance safety."

Even some former NRA members are confused at the organization's decision to allow Pence to speak, despite its stance on restrictions.

The Secret Service is in control of security. The NRA is yielding to them. That said, the NRA should uninvite Pence. My point being, too bad the NRA isn't as concerned about the safety of students as they are about the Veep's. Longtime former NRA member.

But if you're planning to attend, it's a simple matter to ensure your own personal safety. Just bring a 3-D printed gun that can slip past the security screening.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-stopped-security-scandal.html#ixzz2TAN1XkSb

 

[Que]

"No Rifles?"

Idiots.

Handguns are just as effective at close range, cheaper, more concealable, and consequentially used more often.

 

[Que]

The NRA has announced that firearms will not be permitted at their convention during the visit by their keynote speaker.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/parkla...sident-nra-conference-ban-guns-cameron-kasky/


But if you're planning to attend, it's a simple matter to ensure your own personal safety. Just bring a 3-D printed gun that can slip past the security screening.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-stopped-security-scandal.html#ixzz2TAN1XkSb

There really is no end to your stupid. You latch on to whatever idiotic thing is said ...later, when it is explained to you in infinite detail why it's stupid you continue to repeat it. You're still repeating the nonsense when the Glock polymer frames came out that they somehow wouldn't be detected by metal detectors which is nonsense. It's been known to be nonsense for decades now and you're still parroting that stupidity.

Do you wake up in the morning and exercise some sort of stupid muscle or how do you accomplish such massive stupidity?

 

[phrodeau]

There really is no end to your stupid. You latch on to whatever idiotic thing is said ...later, when it is explained to you in infinite detail why it's stupid you continue to repeat it. You're still repeating the nonsense when the Glock polymer frames came out that they somehow wouldn't be detected by metal detectors which is nonsense. It's been known to be nonsense for decades now and you're still parroting that stupidity.

Do you wake up in the morning and exercise some sort of stupid muscle or how do you accomplish such massive stupidity?

Here's a response for you. Enjoy the recognition.

 

[Que]

Here's a response for you. Enjoy the recognition.

That's really when you are at you best- when posting meaningless snark with absolutely no substance. You should stick to that.

 

[WoundedKnee]

FroDOH! does not understand the principle of buoyancy, among most of the other scientific fallacies that he embraces.