The oh so boring left.

What makes you think you know what her individual role was in either Libya or Syria policy? There are a whole bunch of people who make up the foreign policy team. What gives you inside knowledge of her positions on these issues while SecState? Did some of her e-mails go to you personally?

And as far as the Iraq war vote, as noted ad nauseam before, A. she was the senator from the state of the Twin Towers; she voted her constituency and would have been lynched if she hadn't, and B. the vote wasn't what the carrion picking at her are depicting it as. The vote was to invoke war powers to give the administration permission to go on a wartime footing--it didn't approve how the administration actually went to war and it was based on made up advice on who they should go to war with.

It's seen as a bad vote mainly in hindsight based on a whole lot of information not given them. And it suckers an electorate who thinks it knows more than it does based on nothing in particular to misunderstand. I just wish she'd take the time to educate people on this. But of course they wouldn't believe her, because they don't want to.

Spoken as a true believer in the Beltway. Her remarks on the Libya and Syria situations and her lack of understanding what war means are enough for me to question her capabilities to recognize the consequences of her actions.

A war time footing means organizing to accomplish a task. GW just put a war on the tab because Rummy said he could depose Saddam for $200 billion. Well if it had been $200 billion to end Al-Q and end terrorisim, it may have been worth it, but to start a war is a crime no matter how you slice it.
 
As opposed to the great unwashed know-littles but good-at-hating folks in the sticks, yes, I believe in the Beltway, because, guess what. Those are the folks who have to actually do the work and try to keep us afloat while the rest of you sit in your Laz-Y-Boys munching on pop corn and assuming you know something when you don't.
 
As opposed to the great unwashed know-littles but good-at-hating folks in the sticks, yes, I believe in the Beltway, because, guess what. Those are the folks who have to actually do the work and try to keep us afloat while the rest of you sit in your Laz-Y-Boys munching on pop corn and assuming you know something when you don't.

I know smoke, mirrors and bullshit when I see it Pilot. Just because I'm on the left coast doesn't mean I can not read info from all over. I am not limited to the Washington propaganda press.

Yes you beltway insiders are the only ones who can really asses the situations. While we poor folk of no stature should bow down in awe of your magnificent abilities. You really do enjoy self-flattery don't you?
 
No they are not only not inherently tied together one could make a strong argument that for a politician they can only exist in opposition. You can say integrity is your #1 thing of importance and that you don't care if she gets the job done if she's an evil liar, but not that she doesn't get shit done.

Only a Democrat would make that argument.
 
I know smoke, mirrors and bullshit when I see it Pilot. Just because I'm on the left coast doesn't mean I can not read info from all over. I am not limited to the Washington propaganda press.

Yes you beltway insiders are the only ones who can really asses the situations. While we poor folk of no stature should bow down in awe of your magnificent abilities. You really do enjoy self-flattery don't you?

Jack Luis you are onto something. Pilot has his nose so far up the Beltway crowd's collective behind hat he can't hear anything else. This is the exact reason people are sending the middle finger Washington's way. You guys finally did it with this arrogant President named Obama. Trump will be your just desserts. Enjoy your meal.
 
Jack Luis you are onto something. Pilot has his nose so far up the Beltway crowd's collective behind hat he can't hear anything else. This is the exact reason people are sending the middle finger Washington's way. You guys finally did it with this arrogant President named Obama. Trump will be your just desserts. Enjoy your meal.


You call Obama "arrogant," and yet you're a Trump groupie?

Nice consistency there.
 
If that's true it's because only Democrats are smart enough to know the definitions of words.

FINALLY! I've been wondering this for nearly twenty years, please tell me what the definition of "is" is.

I'll hang up and listen...
 
You call Obama "arrogant," and yet you're a Trump groupie?

Nice consistency there.

Boy you guys really love the taste of just desserts don't you. A freight train running through your backyard and all you've got are a liar and a socialist to stop it. Smarter than thou Democrats are a special breed. I mean "is" a special breed.
 
Personally I and many others on the left hope that Trump wins the GOP nomination.

I can't wait until the elections and the rude awakening waiting for the Trump supporters when they find out that pompous silver spoon-fed bigots aren't nearly as popular with the national electorate as they seem to be with the average Teahadist refugee.

Trump will only see the inside of the Oval Office by invitation of the new President, and I wouldn't count on that happening. Ever.
 
Personally I and many others on the left hope that Trump wins the GOP nomination.

I can't wait until the elections and the rude awakening waiting for the Trump supporters when they find out that pompous silver spoon-fed bigots aren't nearly as popular with the national electorate as they seem to be with the average Teahadist refugee.

Trump will only see the inside of the Oval Office by invitation of the new President, and I wouldn't count on that happening. Ever.

Well you live in an altered state, so I'll forgive you until you return to Earth.
 
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